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[Lulubop]

We haven't seen the stage Ryu is standing in front of in his character artwork, could work for both. I just feel like he's a good finally character to show off to get people hyped about the game. People love Akuma.

 

[pizzacat]

We should probably take some out and cap at 8

 

[kirblar]

We haven't seen the stage Ryu is standing in front of in his character artwork, could work for both. I just feel like he's a good finally character to show off to get people hyped about the game. People love Akuma.

Akuma being in the initial 16 just feels so wrong.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Akuma being in the initial 16 just feels so wrong.

If he is available from the start then we're definitely not getting DLC characters for a while.

 

[sixteen-bit]

We should probably take some out and cap at 8

world warriors only

 

[CoyoteSpitfire]

world warriors only

Or take them out and leave us with the Alpha + new characters.

 

[biosnake20]

I've been tricked. Not only is it SFIV, it's Fei vs Yun.

SFV is on now

http://www.twitch.tv/capcomfighters

 

[pizzacat]

If he is available from the start then we're definitely not getting DLC characters for a while.

I see you've been looking for patterns

 

[Lulubop]

Akuma being in the initial 16 just feels so wrong.

I still think it's Sim because of what his play style brings, I just wouldn't be surprised.

 

[pizzacat]

Or take them out and leave us with the Alpha + new characters.

That would be the worst

 

[Tizoc]

I swear people are just pulling 'facts' about Dhalsim straight out of their ass in order to justify why they think he's the last returning character.

The supposed 'pattern' of Gief+'Sim is easily debunk-able too.

 

[kirblar]

"Mainstays in the series who are pretty much always present" also came out of Matt's mouth in the interview. (Hi, Sagat.)

 

[DryEyeRelief]

The supposed 'pattern' of Gief+'Sim is easily debunk-able too.

debunk it then

 

[Skilletor]

debunk it then

Sim and Gief weren't in SFEX together until PSX, and Dhalsim wasn't in MvC1. Something like that.

/shrug

They've still been in games together far more often than not, and it's because their playstyles complement one another.

 

[Captainbob]

More than likely some misdirection to get hype back but

Matt apparently said that the last returnee in fact may not be from SF2.

So there is that I guess.

The IGN quote is actually misleading, if you listen to the interview, @9:40 , when asked what he meant by "classic character" :
Matt Dahlgren : "[...]you pretty much know what the classic characters are, there are mainstays in the series that are pretty much always present".

It's a SF2 character.

 

[Lulubop]

"Mainstays in the series who are pretty much always present" also came out of Matt's mouth in the interview. (Hi, Sagat.)

Or Guile, Or Sim, or Akuma.

 

[skelekey]

What if the classic returning character is Ibuki. I mean all the other slots have been fullfilled.

"16 playable characters to start,” Dahlgren said. “Eight of them are classic characters. Four of them are ones you haven’t really seen in a while and have been reimagined and then four brand new.”

We have four we haven't seen in a while, so the last one must be classic. I would assume that means Street Fighter 2 but If that's not the case then who els could be classic enough that's not from SF2 and is one we've seen recently.

I doubt it but I think it is possible.

 

[Tizoc]

Sim and Gief weren't in SFEX together until PSX, and Dhalsim wasn't in MvC1. Something like that.

/shrug

They've still been in games together far more often than not, and it's because their playstyles complement one another.

That would only apply to one game: Street Fighter Alpha 2.

debunk it then

Alright, consider first that they were both added to SFA2.
Then they got added to XvSF, and later MSHvSF.

The reason Gief and 'Sim were in both games was simply because they were the only SF2 charcters that had new sprites made for them by the time those games were out.

I mean hell X-Men CotA uses Gouki's SF2's sprite!

Dhalsim was not in the arcade versions of Street Fighter EX 1.
Now if Dhalsim ONLY was added to EX+Alpha on PSone you may have a point but he was added along with Sakura.

Furthermore, Street Fighter EX 2 on arcades featured Dhalsim, Claw AND Blanka

Then there's the NGPC SNK vs. Capcom game which didn't feature Dhalsim but had Zangief.
SvC Chaos had Dhalsim, but for the grappler position SNK went with Hugo.

One is the big guy that grabs you and the other is the skinny guy who hits you from afar, but its that 'gimmick' of theirs (for lack of a better word) that let them be in SFA2 to begin with, and only that.

Mind you I'm still saying 'Sim has a 50% chance of being in SF5.

 

[Lulubop]

What if the classic returning character is Ibuki. I mean all the other slots have been fullfilled.

"16 playable characters to start,” Dahlgren said. “Eight of them are classic characters. Four of them are ones you haven’t really seen in a while and have been reimagined and then four brand new.”

We have four we haven't seen in a while, so the last one must be classic. I would assume that means Street Fighter 2 but If that's not the case then who els could be classic enough that's not from SF2 and is one we've seen recently.

I doubt it but I think it is possible.

you pretty much know what the classic characters are, there are mainstays in the series that are pretty much always present".

Not what I think of when I think of Ibuki. The only non SF2 character it could be is Sakura imo.

 

[vulva]

That would only apply to one game: Street Fighter Alpha 2.



Alright, consider first that they were both added to SFA2.
Then they got added to XvSF, and later MSHvSF.

The reason Gief and 'Sim were in both games was simply because they were the only SF2 charcters that had new sprites made for them by the time those games were out.

I mean hell X-Men CotA uses Gouki's SF2's sprite!

Dhalsim was not in the arcade versions of Street Fighter EX 1.
Now if Dhalsim ONLY was added to EX+Alpha on PSone you may have a point but he was added along with Sakura.

Furthermore, Street Fighter EX 2 on arcades featured Dhalsim, Claw AND Blanka

Then there's the NGPC SNK vs. Capcom game which didn't feature Dhalsim but had Zangief.
SvC Chaos had Dhalsim, but for the grappler position SNK went with Hugo.

One is the big guy that grabs you and the other is the skinny guy who hits you from afar, but its that 'gimmick' of theirs (for lack of a better word) that let them be in SFA2 to begin with, and only that.

Mind you I'm still saying 'Sim has a 50% chance of being in SF5.

And I'm saying 100% chance tbh

 

[kirblar]

debunk it then

Ken Bogard gave us 3 locations with the three names. The third is India. (North Africa and Brazil were the others.) Blanka and T Hawk have been replaced with more politically correct characters. Given this pattern and Ken's info being nearly dead on so far, Sim is not in the initial 16, a new Indian character is.

 

[Producer]

Akuma would make alot of money as dlc, i dont think it will be him. Matt isnt just straight up gonna say yes or no, or maybe.

 

[vulva]

Ken Bogard gave us 3 locations with the three names. The third is India. (North Africa and Brazil were the others.) Blanka and T Hawk have been replaced with more politically correct characters. Given this pattern and Ken's info being nearly dead on so far, Sim is not in the initial 16, a new Indian character is.

We on patterns again?

 

[Skilletor]

That would only apply to one game: Street Fighter Alpha 2.



Alright, consider first that they were both added to SFA2.
Then they got added to XvSF, and later MSHvSF.

The reason Gief and 'Sim were in both games was simply because they were the only SF2 charcters that had new sprites made for them by the time those games were out.

I mean hell X-Men CotA uses Gouki's SF2's sprite!

Dhalsim was not in the arcade versions of Street Fighter EX 1.
Now if Dhalsim ONLY was added to EX+Alpha on PSone you may have a point but he was added along with Sakura.

Furthermore, Street Fighter EX 2 on arcades featured Dhalsim, Claw AND Blanka

Then there's the NGPC SNK vs. Capcom game which didn't feature Dhalsim but had Zangief.
SvC Chaos had Dhalsim, but for the grappler position SNK went with Hugo.

One is the big guy that grabs you and the other is the skinny guy who hits you from afar, but its that 'gimmick' of theirs (for lack of a better word) that let them be in SFA2 to begin with, and only that.

Mind you I'm still saying 'Sim has a 50% chance of being in SF5.

So the big guy that grabs you and the guy that hits you from afar is good justification, and the only justification, for them both being in A2, but that doesn't work for SF5?

Nevermind that I don't care about the characters SNK chose to be in their own crossovers. I'm talking Street Fighter, and in SF, they're USUALLY together PRECISELY because of the reason you listed. Their playstyles are complimentary.

Using your logic, anybody from Alpha 2 should've been in XvS. It wasn't only SF2 characters in that, or else Charlie wouldn't have been in it.

 

[kirblar]

We on patterns again?

You got ur wallet ready?

 

[Lulubop]

Akuma would make alot of money as dlc, i dont think it will be him. Matt isnt just straight up gonna say yes or no, or maybe.

A lot of people thought Ken wouldn't be in because of this reason. Just saying. I think shotos are well represented already tho.

Ken Bogard gave us 3 locations with the three names. The third is India. (North Africa and Brazil were the others.) Blanka and T Hawk have been replaced with more politically correct characters. Given this pattern and Ken's info being nearly dead on so far, Sim is not in the initial 16, a new Indian character is.

You still on this Indian character Quota shit lol.

 

[Geminosity]

Or Guile, Or Sim, or Akuma.

Surprised you didn't include Sagat in that list. He's so classic he was in the first streetfighter

 

[Tizoc]

Akuma would make alot of money as dlc, i dont think it will be him. Matt isnt just straight up gonna say yes or no, or maybe.

If Akuma would make better money as DLC why was he among the initial roster in MvC3

Ken Bogard gave us 3 locations with the three names. The third is India. (North Africa and Brazil were the others.)

Where is this North Africa stage btw? Is Zen african?

Blanka and T Hawk have been replaced with more politically correct characters.

Wait remind me who the Mexican character they replaced T. Hawk with @_@

Given this pattern and Ken's info being nearly dead on so far, Sim is not in the initial 16, a new Indian character is.

But where's the North African character

 

[Clawww]

it's definitely an SF2 char. I guess my order of preference beyond sim (who I think is the one) would be guile > sagat > rog > ...fei? > no thanks to the rest. really not expecting it to be akuma, but I'd be down with that.

if it's not an SF2 char (lol) my guess is... Sakura

kirblar on that P-groove

 

[delSai]

Hawk got replaced by Fuerte?

 

[Producer]

A lot of people thought Ken wouldn't be in because of this reason. Just saying. I think shotos are well represented already tho.

Yeah thats right...hm i dunno, im just guessing lol. Either way if hes not in the initial roster he is probably one of the first DLC chars.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Zen and Juri incoming.

 

[Mizerman]

I'm more focused on how Zen plays at the moment.

Of course, I like the new characters so far.

 

[Captainbob]

Zen and Juri incoming.

"you pretty much know what the classic characters are, there are mainstays in the series that are pretty much always present".

Sagat.

 

[kirblar]

Necalli is Aztec. This means he is a Native American character from Mexico who uses a tomahawk and chokeslam command grab.

North Africa appears to be a goof on Rashids home country. That area is heavily Muslim as well.

 

[skelekey]

you pretty much know what the classic characters are, there are mainstays in the series that are pretty much always present".

Not what I think of when I think of Ibuki. The only non SF2 character it could be is Sakura imo.

That just might be who it is. I didn't even consider her but it makes too much sense. I now prepare myself to be inevitably disappointed.

 

[Tizoc]

Necalli is Aztec. This means he is a Native American character from Mexico who uses a tomahawk and chokeslam command grab.

North Africa appears to be a goof on Rashids home country. That area is heavily Muslim as well.

How can he goof on Rashid and NA when most of his other info is right

Just because Aztec were in Mexico doesn't mean Necallis is Mexican; that's like saying someone from Egypt is a descendant of Pharaohs :V

 

[Captainbob]

How can he goof on Rashid and NA when most of his other info is right

Just because Aztec were in Mexico doesn't mean Necallis is Mexican; that's like saying someone from Egypt is a descendant of Pharaohs :V

He didnt say anything about a north american character. And he didnt goof on Rashid, he knew the character was Arab, without knowing his precise origin. As a European his best bet was north africa.

 

[Eudaemonium]

How can he goof on Rashid and NA when most of his other info is right

Just because Aztec were in Mexico doesn't mean Necallis is Mexican; that's like saying someone from Egypt is a descendant of Pharaohs :V

His name is Nahuatl, which would imply he is at least (probably) of Aztec descent. That or he had big Aztec fans for parents or something. He might not *be* from Mexico, but he's probably ethnically Mexican.

 

[Shadoken]

If Akuma would make better money as DLC why was he among the initial roster in MvC3

Didn't they say it was because he was the First "VS" character? Because of his secret appearance in Xmen : COTA. I think people were sort of disappointed with his inclusion since he was a shoto.


And Akuma is kinda top tier in terms of SF popularity , but how does he fair against the likes of ALL Capcom franchises?
I mean does he compare with the likes of Dante,Vergil,Wesker,Megaman?

People would buy a Strider DLC over Akuma in a game like Marvel.

 

[Tizoc]

He didnt say anything about a north american character. And he didnt goof on Rashid, he knew the character was Arab, without knowing his precise origin. As a European his best bet was north africa.

By NA I meant North africa sorry.
But consider all the other point he got right.
He even mentioned Laura's name and then there was a Brazil stage.

 

[Geminosity]

So... any bets on Zen being male or female? I see a lot of assumption on male, which knowing previous SF rosters doesn't seem unfounded, but there's always the possibility they went 2/2 for newcomers this time around :3

 

[Raitaro]

We haven't seen the stage Ryu is standing in front of in his character artwork, could work for both. I just feel like he's a good finally character to show off to get people hyped about the game. People love Akuma.

We have - it's the temple with statue that can be seen on the left side of the moonlit Japanese stage. That's what I think at least.

Edit: I also don't care much about Akuma personally by the way, not enough at least to want him in the initial roster outside of being a secret boss.

 

[TheOGB]

There's really no way around it at this point. Embrace your stretchy-limbed savior

Spoiler

 

[SolidSnakex]

The game still needs a zoner, so Sagat or Dhalsim are the most likely additions. We all know it's going to be a SF2 character.

 

[TheOGB]

So... any bets on Zen being male or female? I see a lot of assumption on male, which knowing previous SF rosters doesn't seem unfounded, but there's always the possibility they went 2/2 for newcomers this time around :3

I'd certainly appreciate the balance a female Zen would bring

 

[SephLuis]

Juri has a chance. Slim, but it's there.

So... any bets on Zen being male or female? I see a lot of assumption on male, which knowing previous SF rosters doesn't seem unfounded, but there's always the possibility they went 2/2 for newcomers this time around :3

What if it's neither sex ? Who knows, Capcom might go crazy in some designs.

 

[Tizoc]

What if Zen is a robot :V
A shadaloo robot.

 

[nded]

What if it's an SF1 character?

What if it's the chicken man from Chun's SF2 stage?

 

[Captainbob]

By NA I meant North africa sorry.

My bad! I thought you were talking about yesterday comicon non-announcement.

So... any bets on Zen being male or female? I see a lot of assumption on male, which knowing previous SF rosters doesn't seem unfounded, but there's always the possibility they went 2/2 for newcomers this time around :3

I think male too, Capcom is usually not very subtle with names, they would give a woman a very feminine one.