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Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread
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It's like my idea for the extended LiS universe exolained, the storm and/or whales are a result of someone else's powers, which were gained in a freak accident caused by Max's time travelling.
I wanted the Save her ending to be similar to the Sacrifice her ending.
Show them going down to the beach. See them find whoever is alive/dead
attend the dead's funeral together (Joyce/Warren/Victoria/Nathan/Frank/whoever)
see Chloe and David reunited/forgive over Joyce's death
Both of them then leave the city towards Seattle while David is involved in rebuilding the city
just something small, realistic like that, that kind of... mirrors the sacrifice Chloe ending in terms of the next "steps".
Show them going down to the beach. See them find whoever is alive/dead
attend the dead's funeral together (Joyce/Warren/Victoria/Nathan/Frank/whoever)
see Chloe and David reunited/forgive over Joyce's death
Both of them then leave the city towards Seattle while David is involved in rebuilding the city
just something small, realistic like that, that kind of... mirrors the sacrifice Chloe ending in terms of the next "steps".
I'm not sure that's so realistic.
well maybe not that part - but I mean. more realistic than them just driving away not even checking if Chloe's mom is alive.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Did my choices mean anything? Or did the developers go for the dramatic story end?
Of course they meant something.
Not at high level, your choices change some dialogues but not so drastic
matrixman92
Member
not really, no.
If you choose sacrifice arcadia, the only stuff that matters is what you did with Chloe in that timeline...everyone else is apparently dead. So big moments like Saving Kate mean nothing in the end.
If you choose sacrifice Chloe, she dies with no knowledge or closure on anything that has happened in the course of the game.
At most, the two endings seem to have 2 very small differences each depending on what u have done.
I'm not sure why anyone expected anything different while still having a 2 months between episodes.
errrrrrrrr why? Kate's in the hospital out of town, there's 0 indication she would've died in the storm. So yeah, it has meaning. Also David survives the storm in the bunker too, so depending on whether or not you were trying to help Chloe and David get along better, that would change their life post-storm, too. I don't see why everyone's like "EVERYONE IS DEAD", that's definitely not the case. Hell, even the people you saved while approaching the diner are likely still alive since they were fleeing the city in time, too. The only ones most likely dead are those in the diner, and even that's not sure - so, Warren, Joyce and Frank and those that died in addition due to being murdered, namely Victoria and Nathan.
matrixman92
Member
not according to the dev. Budget ran out, so that means everyone is dead to them
I don't buy it - it's nowhere in the game, so how would Kate in a hospital far away and David in a friggin bunker die? Nah. "everybody is dead" is.. nah.
matrixman92
Member
and why wouldnt people just leave town when they see a giant freaking tornado start to come in? Nothing made sense.
Doesn't the tornado come really quickly? Like less than a day
A lot of people probably made it out of there, but some didn't
that's the other thing, yes. I'll go by "this is Oregon, nobody thought it would get this big" so they stayed? Not sure.
But I still don't think Kate or David are dead, they were faaar from the whole thing. That's why I find it sad that the ending just wasn't fleshed out enough. It had a lot of potential, Chloe desperately trying to find Joyce alive but finds her dead, funeral with David&Chloe mourning over Joyce, maybe Warren's funeral, THEN have Chloe and Max leave the city. That would've made the ending more fleshed out and at least in terms of content equivalent to the other ending.
(I still agree the other ending is probably more canon, but it's just not satisfying enough for me, as that makes the "lesson" of the storm and the powers stupid. Much better if you see it as the powers were given to her TO save Chloe, IMHO)
Can anyone explain some of the choices made in episode 4?
I'm not seeing the narrative value of warning Victoria at the party, or letting Nathan get beat up. The most I got was acknowledgement from one party or the other, and the only meaningful decision in episode 5 was at the very end.
I realize that in a story where you can alter time it ultimately doesn't matter, but it's frustrating to see especially since the game featured meaningful decisions in the earlier episodes. A lot of these decision threads ultimately resolved to nothing.
I'm not seeing the narrative value of warning Victoria at the party, or letting Nathan get beat up. The most I got was acknowledgement from one party or the other, and the only meaningful decision in episode 5 was at the very end.
I realize that in a story where you can alter time it ultimately doesn't matter, but it's frustrating to see especially since the game featured meaningful decisions in the earlier episodes. A lot of these decision threads ultimately resolved to nothing.
source? just curious, all I read about is that they have decided to spend most of them on writing and voice actors, not ran out of budget and not able to include them.
You know how people always talk about how they would have liked just a bit more time with their loved ones when they die? Well Max was given that time. I like to think that that's why she was given her powers.
Warning Victoria gets her kidnapped and killed by Jefferson.
Pretty sure she dies either way - someone said they didn't warn her which ends with her being killed by Nathan I THINK
matrixman92
Member
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
heres some conversation from Michel Koch
"Everyone" is a very ambiguous term in that context. I don't think he's literally saying the entire population was wiped out.
If anything that second comment indicates that the "storm-curse" is really over. I mean, he's more happy about them leaving and all doom and gloom. This is the beginning for Max and Chloe as a couple/BFF's, not like they'll always be running from the curse. Good.
Still don't think "everyone" dies. Wouldn't make sense for those not even IN the town. More like "everyone present right where the storm hit"
Still don't think "everyone" dies. Wouldn't make sense for those not even IN the town. More like "everyone present right where the storm hit"
casinoman921
Member
Haha, maybe some, but I like the idea in that timeline that Max will always be fighting against the universe wanting Chloe dead.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I.. sacrificed Arcadia. I am a monster.
"How could we be sure it would prevent the tornado?" was one of the lame excuses I told myself.
I'm quite happy with the ending (not perfect, I feel that both Victoria and Nathan's dialogue was poor), but I was never looking for many answers, I got a good villain and I was along for the ride.
"How could we be sure it would prevent the tornado?" was one of the lame excuses I told myself.
I'm quite happy with the ending (not perfect, I feel that both Victoria and Nathan's dialogue was poor), but I was never looking for many answers, I got a good villain and I was along for the ride.
Oh I just remembered. The nosebleeds seem to be of no real consequence. Like yeah Max pushes herself a bit when using her powers, but it doesn't seem she's ever at risk of dying or frying her brain or something.
GGNKovalski
Member
I thought this would play a bigger part honestly. Like in episode 2 with Kate. I figured they would do that again at some point but nope. Nothing. I also figured there would be a ending where Max dies or sacrifices herself for everyone.
I think she comes dangerously close, hence her blackout and fucked up nightmare.
Yeah, the nightmare is definitely the peak of the "max is dying from using time travel" idea/subplot
It would've been interesting if there'd been an ending where Max dies
something like,
Save Chloe - AB gets destroyed
Go back in time
once back, your nose starts bleeding heavily and it's made clear that just doing it once more will likely kill her - you're then given the option of travelling back once more and warning David/anyone about Jefferson and the Dark room or not telling them.
Not telling them will lead to the "Sacrifice Chloe" ending, while telling them will cause Max to pass out in front of the washroom with a heavily bleeding nose - Chloe doesn't meet Nathan in the washroom and lives, the storm never comes, but Max dies.
Edit: or much more simple, in the washroom, give Max a choice to step out as Nathan is about to shoot Chloe and he shoots Max instead
I don't know, there probably is some much better storyline in there, but
Sacrifice Chloe
Sacrifice Arcadia Bay
Sacrifice yourself
would've been an interesting trifecta, too.
something like,
Save Chloe - AB gets destroyed
Go back in time
once back, your nose starts bleeding heavily and it's made clear that just doing it once more will likely kill her - you're then given the option of travelling back once more and warning David/anyone about Jefferson and the Dark room or not telling them.
Not telling them will lead to the "Sacrifice Chloe" ending, while telling them will cause Max to pass out in front of the washroom with a heavily bleeding nose - Chloe doesn't meet Nathan in the washroom and lives, the storm never comes, but Max dies.
Edit: or much more simple, in the washroom, give Max a choice to step out as Nathan is about to shoot Chloe and he shoots Max instead
I don't know, there probably is some much better storyline in there, but
Sacrifice Chloe
Sacrifice Arcadia Bay
Sacrifice yourself
would've been an interesting trifecta, too.
GGNKovalski
Member
What about a true "Bad" ending where if you mess up while your in the dark room, Jefferson actually kills Max. Ending scenes show Newspaper clippings of Max Missing or something. Just a thought.
RedSparrows
Member
It is funny, normally I am relatively utilitarian in these kind of game choices, but there is no way I could sacrifice Max.
She is odd in that she is both 'me' at times, and 'her' at others. 'me' I can sacrifice in a game, 'her' I could not.
Most game protagonists I don't care about. Hell, even in wider fiction a lot of the time I get more attached to the other characters than the protagonist (not always). In this that definitely doesn't happen to the same degree.
She is odd in that she is both 'me' at times, and 'her' at others. 'me' I can sacrifice in a game, 'her' I could not.
Most game protagonists I don't care about. Hell, even in wider fiction a lot of the time I get more attached to the other characters than the protagonist (not always). In this that definitely doesn't happen to the same degree.
That's why I said this feels more like a book. It's truly a visual novel experience. And that's also why I couldnt sacrifice Chloe. I am Max. I love Chloe. I've done all these things to save her. I've seen her paralyzed and die. I wont let her die now, even if it means the destruction of the town. As "Max" that's my choice.
Like Chloe says - I'm the only one that can make that choice. Max. Me as Max. It's a VERY personal decision, there is no right or wrong.
About that snow. After finishing it a few days ago and thinking a lot about it, I decided to finally watch the "sacrifice Chloe" ending and... well, isn't it snowing there as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5lsTadfcSU&t=709
11:49 and forwards. Because if that's the case, then either both timelines are messed up or the snow actually doesn't mean anything. I'm not really sure what to believe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5lsTadfcSU&t=709
11:49 and forwards. Because if that's the case, then either both timelines are messed up or the snow actually doesn't mean anything. I'm not really sure what to believe.
GGNKovalski
Member
Life is Strange Season 2 puts you in the shoes of that person. The Storm Bringer.
After a night of sleep and actually have some time to think about the story specifically in epi 5, my mind actually got fucked by the numerous time jumping around in this episode that I was forced to not think about in detail while playing it.
If anyone had analyized the actual story time lines please let me know
If anyone had analyized the actual story time lines please let me know
Tezzeractor
Member
You think that someone else had powers? I was kinda hoping Jefferson might have something to do with Max's powers. I got excited when he exclaimed, "How did you know?!" when she warns David coming around the corner, like he also knew.
matrixman92
Member
so...there was a cut line on the cliffside where Max tells Chloe that she loves her. Wonder why it was cut. According to the poster there were a few other lines cut as well, but were not recorded
https://instaud.io/drt
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GGNKovalski
Member
That hurts to listen to. Wish it would have made it in the game. Or like some option to confess your feelings to her before the choices pop up.
matrixman92
Member
the other cut lines are just kind of bizarre
Cue_E5_7A_Cliff_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_001="You have to choose Max..."
Cue_E5_7A_Cliff_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_002="Save me, or that filthy town."
Cue_E5_7A_Cliff_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_003="But please, choose me... :'("
Cue_E5_7A_Cliff_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_001="You have to choose Max..."
Cue_E5_7A_Cliff_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_002="Save me, or that filthy town."
Cue_E5_7A_Cliff_CHChloe_Phase01_Chloe_003="But please, choose me... :'("
GGNKovalski
Member
Oh wow. Maybe they decided to scrap it to make Chloe seem less selfish? I liked her talk at the end. I thought it was great seeing her character come to that point.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Yeah I would have sacrificed her twice as hard if she said that. I think how it was presented was much better since I could still feel bad about doing that to her.
GGNKovalski
Member
I went into it knowing I would have to make a decision like that and was 100% committed to saving Chloe no matter what but when she dropped that little speech on me....man. I had to pause and really think about it.
Maybe it was planned to have Chloe change based on Max' choices.
WrenchNinja
Member
Letting an entire town of people die is pretty cut and dry.
UnluckyKate
Member
Love the bait when max says " Life is.... Weird " haha everybody got trolled on this one and I couldn't stop smirking think of the You know Elie were truly are the last of us thread