Halo 5 Multiplayer Coverage! (no campaign spoilers)

Old Halo thinkin' in new Halo. Seen it a lot. Understandable, really.

I would say that this is legitimately the first time old thinking just doesn't work anymore. This isn't the old games with some new feature plastered awkwardly in. The new moveset in conjunction with everything else means the old rules just don't apply anymore.

New era of Halo - makes me wonder where they'll evolve the series to come 2018!
 
Halo is one of best reasons to get an xbox One this holiday as compared to the ps4. Take that away and its pretty much dead.

Only reason I just bought an xbone. I'd been planning to wait for reviews and see how badly I wanted to be able to play it but I got impatient. So for me at least, it literally was the system seller.

Now hopefully the thing gets here before next Tuesday.
 
How strong is the Pistol? From the tactics video, they were making it sound like it is better and stronger than the BR and DMR. If that is so, where does that leave those two guns? Is the Pistol going to be the OP gun?
In that video the people using the br were missing their shots. What if the br landed all four shots against a pistol user? Pretty sure the br would win so I don't think Ar/Pistol starts will be fun when the enemy team gets all the brs/dmrs against a team of pistols.
 
In what situations do you see yourselves using the AR? I haven't seen many streamers using it.

To clean up a kill when I run out of pistol ammo (assuming I haven't dropped the AR for a rifle)
 
This!!! It's getting frustrating seeing in twitch streams people begging for Br starts when you have an amazingly capable pistol in hand.

The pistol is capable but ar/ pistol starts just aren't as much fun as br starts

The dude that gets his hands on a br will wreck pistol users - why can't we all just have br's and be on a even playing field?

I have played halo 5 recently btw so this opinion is based on in game experience.
 
The pistol is capable but ar/ pistol starts just aren't as much fun as br starts

The dude that gets his hands on a br will wreck pistol users - why can't we all just have br's and be on a even playing field?

I have played halo 5 recently btw so this opinion is based on in game experience.

Show me the receipts
 
I mean the game has pretty much none of the attributes that make up halo 1-3 so I imagine it doesn't feel anything like halo it kinda looks a lot like the last CoD game with a bit more shield slower TTK with a halo skin wrapped around it. You guys enjoy though!
 
What's a guy gotta do to get a white listed round here? :(
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Installing...
 
I mean the game has pretty much none of the attributes that make up halo 1-3 so I imagine it doesn't feel anything like halo it kinda looks a lot like the last CoD game with a bit more shield slower TTK with a halo skin wrapped around it. You guys enjoy though!

Hip fire aiming accuracy: CHECK
Equal starts: CHECK
Power weapons on map: CHECK


It's literally Halo 2/3 gameplay with movement abilities integrated in.
 
The pistol is capable but ar/ pistol starts just aren't as much fun as br starts

The dude that gets his hands on a br will wreck pistol users - why can't we all just have br's and be on a even playing field?

I have played halo 5 recently btw so this opinion is based on in game experience.

For the balance of the sandbox. Why would the pistol exist then?
Based on what we've seen, this is the first halo game where every weapon in the sandbox has purpose and can be effective.
 
In what situations do you see yourselves using the AR? I haven't seen many streamers using it.

I'd use it if I needed to reload my pistol and I'm in a pinch... Or if I'm double teaming someone (no sense in us both using pistol ammo on a guy who's likely to die anyway).

Other than that I'll probably drop it given the opportunity...
 
For the balance of the sandbox. Why would the pistol exist then?

For all the people that think having a multitude of weapons is fun.

I honestly couldn't care less if the pistol was removed - I think having it introduces this problem where the game has to be pistol starts with br as a pickup weapon. I don't know what's fun about that.

In a game where you can only hold two weapons I would rather have less weapons but have those weapons be more versatile than have a lot of similar weapons which are circumstantial
 
The pistol is capable but ar/ pistol starts just aren't as much fun as br starts

The dude that gets his hands on a br will wreck pistol users - why can't we all just have br's and be on a even playing field?

I have played halo 5 recently btw so this opinion is based on in game experience.

The BR doesn't wreck the pistol at close range, and a good pistol user can hold his own against a BR user, especially given all the movement abilities at hand. The pistol has a faster TTK... Just get good with it.

Also we do have an even playing field... We all start with the same weapons. The BR user has EARNED the 'advantage'... If you want the BR, don't let the other guy get it.
 
I mean the game has pretty much none of the attributes that make up halo 1-3 so I imagine it doesn't feel anything like halo it kinda looks a lot like the last CoD game with a bit more shield slower TTK with a halo skin wrapped around it. You guys enjoy though!

It carries over a lot from halo 1 to 3 it also carries a lot from CoD well introducing a bunch of new mechanics and improving in everything.

It's fun! Honestly playing it reminds me a bit of Unreal Tournament lol.
 
I mean the game has pretty much none of the attributes that make up halo 1-3 so I imagine it doesn't feel anything like halo it kinda looks a lot like the last CoD game with a bit more shield slower TTK with a halo skin wrapped around it. You guys enjoy though!

What does it lack that halo's 1-3 had?

It's basically Halo 3, but faster, with better balancing and more mobility...

The COD comparisons are nonsensical at this point...
 
What does it lack that halo's 1-3 had?

It's basically Halo 3, but faster, with better balancing and more mobility...

The COD comparisons are nonsensical at this point...

Well it's got sprint, thrust, clamber, shoulder charge, ground pound. I actually don't recall any of those abilities in Halo 1-3. Movement is a huge part of gameplay and changing all this up really changes the Halo feel the last games had. I'm a purist though I would still be playing Halo 2 if they were still adding maps it still had live support and a healthy amount of players. Notice besides sales numbers halo reach n four were the most hated with the most outspoken fans? Hell Halo 4 started peaking at 14k players within two weeks. People don't want innovation they want to play halo whether they know it or not.
 
The pistol is capable but ar/ pistol starts just aren't as much fun as br starts

The dude that gets his hands on a br will wreck pistol users - why can't we all just have br's and be on a even playing field?

I have played halo 5 recently btw so this opinion is based on in game experience.

Man its like running around in circles with these complaints. The whole reason they stopped doing the whole load-outs thing was because they wanted to bring back old style halo where weapons spawned on the maps. If you start everyone with a BR, no one will move around. Theyll just stay at their spawn and shoot from far thus making this whole change pointless.

Well it's got sprint, thrust, clamber, shoulder charge, ground pound. I actually don't recall any of those abilities in Halo 1-3. Movement is a huge part of gameplay and changing all this up really changes the Halo feel the last games had. I'm a purist though I would still be playing Halo 2 if they were still adding maps it still had live support and a healthy amount of players. Notice besides sales numbers halo reach n four were the most hated with the most outspoken fans? Hell Halo 4 started peaking at 14k players within two weeks. People don't want innovation they want to play halo whether they know it or not.

Im sorry but im consistently trying to sprint in halo2 now. Running isnt a typically COD thing when you have super humans in armor suits who do it all the time in the lore. And i would argue that most of those people who complained about Reach and 4 wouldnt havent complained so much if so many of those games maps werent so boring to play on.

Thats honestly my biggest worry with 5. 343 still havent shown me that they know how to make memorable MP maps that arent remixes of old ones.
 
Having played the beta, assuming the core is the same, this is nothing like COD. At all.

Having not played the beta, so I could be completely wrong, it seems like this is much closer to what Destiny PvP would be, if it had balance, 60FPS, dedicated servers, and no crazy insta-kill supers. I say that based on the relatively fast movement and short-ish TTK (that is still an eternity compared to COD).

War zone looks like a completely different thing entirely, kind of mixing in some elements of larger scale FPS games like BF.
 
Well it's got sprint, thrust, clamber, shoulder charge, ground pound. I actually don't recall any of those abilities in Halo 1-3. Movement is a huge part of gameplay and changing all this up really changes the Halo feel the last games had. I'm a purist though I would still be playing Halo 2 if they were still adding maps it still had live support and a healthy amount of players. Notice besides sales numbers halo reach n four were the most hated with the most outspoken fans? Hell Halo 4 started peaking at 14k players within two weeks. People don't want innovation they want to play halo whether they know it or not.

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Well it's got sprint, thrust, clamber, shoulder charge, ground pound. I actually don't recall any of those abilities in Halo 1-3. Movement is a huge part of gameplay and changing all this up really changes the Halo feel the last games had. I'm a purist though I would still be playing Halo 2 if they were still adding maps it still had live support and a healthy amount of players. Notice besides sales numbers halo reach n four were the most hated with the most outspoken fans? Hell Halo 4 started peaking at 14k players within two weeks. People don't want innovation they want to play halo whether they know it or not.

Halo 2 needs 2 major fixes: sword with an ammo counter, and reduced homing on the PP, otherwise I completely agree.

I could go either way on the button combos.
 
Well it's got sprint, thrust, clamber, shoulder charge, ground pound. I actually don't recall any of those abilities in Halo 1-3. Movement is a huge part of gameplay and changing all this up really changes the Halo feel the last games had. I'm a purist though I would still be playing Halo 2 if they were still adding maps it still had live support and a healthy amount of players. Notice besides sales numbers halo reach n four were the most hated with the most outspoken fans? Hell Halo 4 started peaking at 14k players within two weeks. People don't want innovation they want to play halo whether they know it or not.

Guess that is why Halo 4 playlist in MCC is one of the top ones.
 
Hey Frankie, will the game go live on 12 est or pst in Freedom Land? Google searched for and wide and couldn't give me an answer.
 
Well it's got sprint, thrust, clamber, shoulder charge, ground pound. I actually don't recall any of those abilities in Halo 1-3. Movement is a huge part of gameplay and changing all this up really changes the Halo feel the last games had. I'm a purist though I would still be playing Halo 2 if they were still adding maps it still had live support and a healthy amount of players. Notice besides sales numbers halo reach n four were the most hated with the most outspoken fans? Hell Halo 4 started peaking at 14k players within two weeks. People don't want innovation they want to play halo whether they know it or not.

The Master Chief Collection exists. Play that if you want, or not. I'll be enjoying the new, faster Halo 5 with friends.
 
For all the people that think having a multitude of weapons is fun.

I honestly couldn't care less if the pistol was removed - I think having it introduces this problem where the game has to be pistol starts with br as a pickup weapon. I don't know what's fun about that.

In a game where you can only hold two weapons I would rather have less weapons but have those weapons be more versatile than have a lot of similar weapons which are circumstantial

To me that's what playlists should be for. Make a Team Slayer BR playlist as an option or something. Or SWAT is close enough maybe
 
To me that's what playlists should be for. Make a Team Slayer BR playlist as an option or something. Or SWAT is close enough maybe

I would be more than happy to see it as a playlist option - unfortunately though I imagine 343 will go all the way and the only way to play br starts will be in mlg or something

It would be a shame to go in and be unable to play br starts outside of a hyper competitive mode
 
If you don't mind me asking, what are you actually there for, press tour or more interesting stuff or boring last minute finishing up?

Enjoy if you can.

He's attending the London launch event for the game, or just wanted a holiday, or both!
 
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