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[Branduil]

RotJ wins over RotS because even though it's not that great, its highs are substantially higher than anything in the prequels, and we're spending time with characters we actually care about.

RotS benefits immensely from just how low expectations had fallen, and from actually depicting the moments everyone was waiting to see. But even then, it can't help but screw up. "I have the high ground" and "Nooooooooooooooo!" are probably worse than anything in RotJ.

The opera scene is one of the only actually good moments in the Palpatine/Anakin relationship.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

It's kind of funny that "only a Sith deals in absolutes" is one of the memorable lines from ROTS.

It actually has memorable lines, but for the wrong reasons.

 

[Toxi]

Albert Burneko of the Concourse with an article entitled "What if the new Star Wars sucks, too."

The premise: Only two of the Star Wars movies are actually good, and people should stop thinking of the prequels as an anomaly, and realize that the anomaly was that Star Wars and Empire are as good as they are.

I actually like Darth Vader being a regretful and broken shell of a man after his own son told him to fuck off.

 

[Red Blaster]

i just remembered anakin killed child tusken raiders in aotc

so him helping out a disposable clone trooper in a time of haste makes even less sense

 

[guek]

Don't forget the one-two dipshit hall-of-famers:

"Only a sith deals in absolutes."
"From my point of view the Jedi are evil!"

I like to imagine Lucas thought up those lines out of context at some point and shoved them in there next to each other just because he thought they sounded cool.

 

[Jarmel]

Don't forget the one-two dipshit hall-of-famers:

"Only a sith deals in absolutes."
"From my point of view the Jedi are evil!"

Brings a smile to my face every time.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

"I have the high ground" and "Nooooooooooooooo!" are probably worse than anything in RotJ.

Nah, neither of those top the Luke/Leia/Han ewok village scene with the reveal.

"COULD YOU TELL LUKE, IS THAT WHO YOU COULD TELL?"
"...hold me!"

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Just like "you're breaking my heart".

It's terrible, but it can't be forgotten for some reason.

 

[Toxi]

Funny how nobody ever mentions "Only a master of evil, Darth" when talking about terrible Star Wars dialogue.

You can imagine Alec Guinness wincing when he read that line for the first time.

 

[Jarmel]

Padme literally dying from a broken heart still makes me roll my eyes almost out of my skull.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Nah, neither of those top the Luke/Leia/Han ewok village scene with the reveal.

"COULD YOU TELL LUKE, IS THAT WHO YOU COULD TELL?"
"...hold me!"

Oh yeah, that "hold me".

Or the reverse "I love you/I know" Totally missed the point.

 

[guek]

i just remembered anakin killed child tusken raiders in aotc

My most hated audio cue in all 6 movies happens in RotS when Palpatine reminds Anakin of how he killed those Tusken raiders and you hear their shouting faintly the background. Like, what the fuck, Lucas? Was that really necessary? Was that a force-audio-hallucination that Palpatine just pulled on the audience? It always bugs the crap out of me whenever I hear it.

 

[Spiritreaver]

i rewatched the opening of rots and i dont get it

5 minutes of obi wan and anakin flying to a command ship fending off cursory droid badguys where anakin inexplicably helps out some rando clone trooper? everything about it follows the basic philosophy of the prequel effects orgy--no stakes, no tension. so much random action that its boring. why do people like this?

i did rewatch the opera scene and i'll admit it's pretty solid, not as good as unlimited powah but close

To be fair, the part I like is just the first two minutes. The bit with the droids is eyerolling, except when R4 gets decapitated. After that the sequence is pretty much over anyway. I don't think the scene is anywhere near as good as the space battles in the OT.

It's also one, of only two, large scale space battles in the entire film franchise. I like seeing capital ships explode, damn it!

 

[PBalfredo]

It's also important to note that Jedi's highest highs are also attached to scenes that form the emotional core of that movie. Meanwhile, Sith's climax, which the entire prequel trilogy has been building towards, is saddled with the most infamous lines of the prequels.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

So much hate flowing in here!

 

[TheDinoman]

Padme literally dying from a broken heart still makes me roll my eyes almost out of my skull.

Did her life force depend on Anakin being a good guy? Sheesh. They should of just said she died because, well, Anakin choked the hell out of her.

 

[bill0527]

My most hated audio cue in all 6 movies happens in RotS when Palpatine reminds Anakin of how he killed those Tusken raiders and you hear their shouting faintly the background. Like, what the fuck, Lucas? Was that really necessary? Was that a force-audio-hallucination that Palpatine just pulled on the audience? It always bugs the crap out of me whenever I hear it.

The full scene of the Tusken Raider slaughter was fleshed out in the novelization for AoTC and I do believe it was also filmed, but most, well...pretty much all of it got left on the cutting room floor.

 

[Branduil]

Nah, neither of those top the Luke/Leia/Han ewok village scene with the reveal.

"COULD YOU TELL LUKE, IS THAT WHO YOU COULD TELL?"
"...hold me!"

That scene is bad but it doesn't ruin a climactic moment like the other two.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

I don't like sand

 

[Bobby Roberts]

You know that part where Anakin kills the tuskens, and we cut back to a super peach-fuzzed Yoda meditating? And then they re-use an ADR'd take of Neeson screaming "Anakin, Anakin!"

And then it's followed up by what I think is supposed to be a "nooooo!" but sounds more like a giant wad of carpet getting sucked into a low-power vaccuum. Like Grover getting a rimjob.

That scene is bad but it doesn't ruin a climactic moment like the other two.

It ruins plenty. Luke just told Leia her father is Darth Vader. Nothing happens. The moment is 100% botched - and it was a stupid moment from conception. Taking a shit idea and making it somehow worse in the execution? That's a special kind of stupid. It's terribly shot, scripted, staged - everything.

 

[Perfect Cha0s]

So much hate flowing in here!

Seems pretty civil considering we have people taking shots at both the OT and PT lol

 

[BrokenFiction]

I like Stars Wars.

 

[Red Blaster]

'sith lords are our specialty'

anakin decapitating count dooku followed by r2-d2 slapstick

 

[Toxi]

I like Stars Wars.

Get out of here, nobody likes Star Wars in this thread.

 

[Jarmel]

Well there's something everybody can agree on, that Attack of the Clones is the worst.

Just look at this shit.

 

[kurahador]

It's also important to note that Jedi's highest highs are also attached to scenes that form the emotional core of that movie. Meanwhile, Sith's climax, which the entire prequel trilogy has been building towards, is saddled with the most infamous lines of the prequels.

But I love that scene. The moment he starts talking weird and acting like Gollum still managed to creeps me out.

 

[Jarmel]

'sith lords are our specialty'

anakin decapitating count dooku followed by r2-d2 slapstick

I still like the way he said it. McGregor savored the hell out of that line. Of course Obi-Wan jobs like five minutes later.

 

[BrokenFiction]

Get out of here, nobody likes Star Wars in this thread.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

"Spesh-syuhAL-tee."

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I don't like sand

 

[brandonh83]

Well there's something everybody can agree on, that Attack of the Clones is the worst.

Just look at this shit.

Honestly the only thing that bugs me are those weird zooms but they're prevalent in all the prequels.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Across the Stars tho

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I can't watch that Fireplace scene. I think I tried rewatching Clones like 4 or 5 years ago, and I kept walking in and out of the room - doing laundry or something I think. And I came back in as the fireplace scene had started, and I couldn't fuckin' do it. Just shut the whole thing off.

Douche Chill Concentrate, that scene.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

"I wish I could wish away my feelings" is a much, much worse line than sand. Seriously, guys.

I actually think"sand" gets blown out of proportion. I mean, it's terrible, but there's far worse.

 

[Toxi]

"Star Wars is a movie series made for adults."

*Twenty minutes of droid comedy relief and cute high-pitched Jawas*

 

[Spiritreaver]

I think my favorite part of AOTC was Zam Wesell trying to assassinate Padme with centipedes.

 

[brandonh83]

I can't watch that Fireplace scene. I think I tried rewatching Clones like 4 or 5 years ago, and I kept walking in and out of the room - doing laundry or something I think. And I came back in as the fireplace scene had started, and I couldn't fuckin' do it. Just shut the whole thing off.

It's the worst scene in the entire series, the way it even starts is so fucking awkward with them just sitting there shuffling and not knowing what to say. Just cringe city and I'm not even an overall hater of the movie. But there's no defending some of it, that one especially. Just some of the worst shit I've ever seen.

I actually think"sand" gets blown out of proportion. I mean, it's terrible, but there's far worse.

The sand lines are only really guilty of being lame. Like, it does at least make sense. Every line of dialogue in the fireplace scene should have been nuked from orbit.

 

[MMarston]

"I wish I could wish away my feelings" is a much, much worse line than sand. Seriously, guys.

I actually think"sand" gets blown out of proportion. I mean, it's terrible, but there's far worse.

I'm not actually bothered by 'I hate the sand' but more on the "unlike your skin" immediately after.

 

[Toxi]

I think my favorite part of AOTC was Zam Wesell trying to assassinate Padme with centipedes.

That whole plan didn't make any sense to me

why would you use centipedes when you could just toss a grenade in her room

 

[brandonh83]

That whole plan didn't make any sense to me

why would you use centipedes when you could just toss a grenade in her room

Anakin couldn't even run into the room without tripping.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I'm not actually bothered by 'I hate the sand' but more on the "unlike your skin" immediately after.

"unlike your skin"?

It's "Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth."

 

[CreepingFear]

Anakin couldn't even run into the room without tripping.

He was tripping over his own boner for Padme. We can all relate to that, right?

 

[callmedave]

Years of washed out VHS have trained me to look for the slug on his hood.

What's the deal with this anyway? It has bugged me my whole life.

 

[Toxi]

"unlike your skin"?

It's "Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth."

He was actually referring to the 1080p resolution.

 

[Hydrus]

I just watched episode 1 completely for the first time in my life today. It was the biggest chunk of shit I have ever seen. I don't even know what to do with myself right now. It single handedly killed my hype for 7. Fuck.

 

[MMarston]

"unlike your skin"?

It's "Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth."

heh just rewatched the scene, turns out i remembered wrong and the whole skin thing was implicit through gestures

 

[Einchy]

heh just rewatched the scene, turns out i remembered wrong and the whole skin thing was implicit through gestures

The gestures are like poetry.

 

[sphagnum]

What's the deal with this anyway? It has bugged me my whole life.

They were shining a light on Ian's eyes to make them look creepy but instead of it just looking like he had shining evil eyes it also illuminated part of his hood, so they splotched it out, which in turn also looked crappy and created "the slug".

 

[Branduil]

'sith lords are our specialty'

anakin decapitating count dooku followed by r2-d2 slapstick

That line doesn't even make sense considering these same two Jedi previously got owned by that same Sith Lord, and Obi-Wan is literally the only Jedi in millenia to kill a Sith, so how could Sith Lords possibly be their specialty.

 

[sphagnum]

That line doesn't even make sense considering these same two Jedi previously got owned by that same Sith Lord, and Obi-Wan is literally the only Jedi in millenia to kill a Sith, so how could Sith Lords possibly be their specialty.

It works better following TCW.