Microsoft Surface Pro 4 announced: "better in nearly every way" (The Verge)
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The pro 4 fixed the throttling issue apparently. The pro 3 will still have the issues. Plus the pro 4 had a performance buml across the board.
brotkasten
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Reviewers have said that the SP4 itself is an incremental upgrade and suggest that SP3 owners should just get the new type cover, which is a bigger upgrade than the machine itself. The biggest pros for the SP4 are the reduced fan noise, better display and perhaps the pen. If you think that you can deal with fan noise and find a (really) good deal for a Pro 3, then go ahead. The SP3 i3 version isn't recommended at all, though.
Running in native resolution and connected to a 1080p monitor, I'm getting a bit of lag from browsing Gaf on the Edge browser while streaming a 1080p video on the monitor above. It seemed to be short lived, but a period of lag spikes none-the-less.
This is on the 256/8GB i5 model.
This is on the 256/8GB i5 model.
The SP4 doesn't have the throttling issue too, which might affect some users.
brotkasten
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I'd say the SP4 throttles less, but it's not entirely gone. At least not according to Norm, from tested.com.
https://youtu.be/-jGSOX2-G6M?t=6m
That's a bit disappointing to hear. Have you tried a different browser?
You may need to our guinea pig
But seriously, if you could run the same benchmarks as the i5 had then we could get a nice view of the difference between them. And probably more importantly your impressions from actually using it.
Not yet. My fan is also blaring as well.
I downloaded Resident Evil 4 earlier; a waterfall section slowed my SP2 down to a crawl on a really low resolution with the lowest graphics settings. I'll give it a try later to see if it improves and how long it takes to throttle, if it does at all.
Heat wise it's not nearly as hot as my SP2 gets.
You may need to our guinea pig
But seriously, if you could run the same benchmarks as the i5 had then we could get a nice view of the difference between them. And probably more importantly your impressions from actually using it.
yea I could do benchmarks. Can you link me to exactly what I need to do? I've never done benchmarks with a computer before.
Mine was just delivered but I won't be able to play around with it until about 10 PM ET tonight.
Yikes...that is really disappointing as I was planning on hooking this up to a monitor and dual screening when I am at home...My 6GB + i5 laptop from 3 years ago has no problem with dual screening and a 1080p video, I'm not sure why this one would.
My SP2 had no problems, however I found an update in the update center. I'm hoping that the issue will be fixed with the update, as I recall my SP2 running a bit funky before its first update too.
XiaNaphryz
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Gonna have to wait until I get home to try mine out, it should be arriving today.
Anyone have a cheap link to a copy of Office? Non-365 preferred.
Anyone have a cheap link to a copy of Office? Non-365 preferred.
XiaNaphryz
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My SP4 model is i5/16 GB and shipped out a few days ago. I ordered one within the first few hours it went up on the MS store though.
Ok thanks for responding. I ordered an i5/8GB model minutes after it went up, but had second thoughts and changed it the next day. It still said it would ship by now but hasn't.
At least since you responded, I know they are out there so it shouldn't be long. It's crazy.. they overnighted my keyboard and my Band 2 has shipped from China but the SP4 hasn't even been charged.
Ran the updates, and yeah.. I cannot recommend this thing to anyone.
Was browsing while my car is being repaired at a service center. Tablet completely froze--no blue screen or anything. Held the power button and forced a restart. Frozen on the "Surface" screen. Tried a second time, frozen on the Surface screen again.
Edit: Third try it finally worked. This thing is janky as fuck.
Was browsing while my car is being repaired at a service center. Tablet completely froze--no blue screen or anything. Held the power button and forced a restart. Frozen on the "Surface" screen. Tried a second time, frozen on the Surface screen again.
Edit: Third try it finally worked. This thing is janky as fuck.
This was my experience with the pro 3 the first few days. I don't no why but Microsoft can't seem to make their products smooth or streamlined in the opening minutes.
Machine has been excellent since then, but yeah that first few days amidst updates were pretty poor. So don't write it off just yet
Damn, not an encouraging review.
Maybe you have a defective unit? That is strange to hear
Marty Chinn
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Forced updates out of the box before you can use it?
No, you have to open the windows update section of the settings and scan for a new update.
Can you try Elder Scrolls Online, pleeeease. :3 :3 :3
I don't have Elder Scrolls Online. Is it F2P?
W10? I would try with W8.1 as well.
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Just got home about 30 minutes ago and finished setup.
I5
8GB
256GB
Seems super slick so far, I've never owned a surface product so I can't compare it to anything. But I'm really liking it so far. And i'm amazed how good this keyboard is.
One thing though. I feel like my pen 'clicker' thing has a problem, it's hard to click, like it's sticky or something. I can't even make it go quick enough to take a screenshot. Is this a known problem? The pen in the store wasn't like this, so maybe mine is bad. But maybe you need to like 'unlock' it or something? Like twisting it will pop up the 'clicker'? IDK, if anyone knows what i'm talking about I'd love some tips.
Other than that it seems great so far.
I5
8GB
256GB
Seems super slick so far, I've never owned a surface product so I can't compare it to anything. But I'm really liking it so far. And i'm amazed how good this keyboard is.
One thing though. I feel like my pen 'clicker' thing has a problem, it's hard to click, like it's sticky or something. I can't even make it go quick enough to take a screenshot. Is this a known problem? The pen in the store wasn't like this, so maybe mine is bad. But maybe you need to like 'unlock' it or something? Like twisting it will pop up the 'clicker'? IDK, if anyone knows what i'm talking about I'd love some tips.
Other than that it seems great so far.
One thing though. I feel like my pen 'clicker' thing has a problem, it's hard to click, like it's sticky or something. I can't even make it go quick enough to take a screenshot. Is this a known problem? The pen in the store wasn't like this, so maybe mine is bad. But maybe you need to like 'unlock' it or something? Like twisting it will pop up the 'clicker'? IDK, if anyone knows what i'm talking about I'd love some tips.
Other than that it seems great so far.
I had a problem with my SP2 pen and contacted Microsoft about it. They sent over a new one right away.
Take it back to the store and get it swapped out. You probably got a defective one.
Going to give it a little more time. Actually, I keep having an issue where occasionally I will be typing and the keyboard will momentarily not register my keystrokes. I'm just having a ton of luck with this thing, aren't I?
Aruarian Reflection
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I am in love
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The trackpad felt great, but having just messed around with the Pro 4 and the Book in a Microsoft store, they still leave something to be desired compared to a MacBook. I imagine a lot of the "off" feeling can be alleviated by changing settings, though.
Got the Shakes
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I have a MS Store near me and can get an education discount. I've never owned a Surface, but my Windows laptop is quite old so I can see the $1300 Pro 4 in my future.
If its not a huge hassle defiantly take it back the issues don't sound normal.
Marty Chinn
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Charging my wife's M3 now. First impressions so far is I don't like the new power adapter. I like the Pro 3 adapter much better. The only other impression was the new type cover had a strong chemical smell out of the box. Hopefully that goes away quickly.
Are they different? My i5 SP4 review unit has the same adaptor as the SP3 and non-GPU Surface Book.
XiaNaphryz
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Damnit, the keyboard was sent in a separate shipment but UPS managed to screw up the delivery of that one with an "invalid street number" error despite it having the exact same address as the SP4 package. Didn't notice until it was too late to "correct" it in time for them to attempt a redelivery, so now I have to wait an extra day for the keyboard cover.
yea I thought the SP3, SP4 and surface book were all supposed to be the same so the new dock works with all of them?
Steelyuhas
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Just finished getting mine set up and playing around with it. What a nice device, huge upgrade from my SP2. This keyboard is pretty great.
Elitist1945
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So if I wanted to use one as a graphics tablet/occasional editing (videos), would a Surface Pro 3 cut it? What better does the 4 bring to the table?
Marty Chinn
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My SP3 came with the one on the left, but my SP4 came with the one on the right except the label says Pro Windows instead of RT on it. It's missing the USB port and the block is on the outlet rather than having the cord which plugs in. The SP3 adapter was way better and easier to plug in.
Haloid1177
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My Surface Book with no GPU has the exact same charger as my SP3.
Well if you draw, etc, SP3 limits to 256 pressure levels with the pen, while the SP4 is 1024.
Elitist1945
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Is the i5 a good choice for the SP4? 'Cause I see an i5 128GB for $1,300 and that seems like a good deal to me.
Marty Chinn
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Did they somehow give me the wrong adapter?
The i5 is perfectly fine. Main issue is the 128GB is limited to 4GB RAM, which could be important depending how large of images you will work with, or video editing effects.
Aruarian Reflection
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Windows Hello is blazing fast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE6tZMfeP3E
I love the wink it gives you too, so flirty
I love the wink it gives you too, so flirty
SP3, SP4, and SB all use the same plug.
The power supplies will work with any of the devices, but will charge at different rates because the power supplies are rated for different power output.
For example, the dock and the SB dGPU power supply both put out 65W. The SP3 power supply only puts out 36W.
Haloid1177
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I dunno. Doesn't make sense for it to be RT style.
Mick Swagger
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GAF, same question!
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