Man does black face for Kanye West costume because this shit will never end

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Like I feel like some people might be asking if a professional make up artist did a costume where they darkened their skin to an accurate tone of the person they were portraying would it still be offensive but we don't ever see examples of that. That would be the only time where it would make the costume more accurate. Even then when it wouldn't be the abhorrent looking shit we usually get I wouldn't recommend it
 
Blonde people are not marginalized in society, so there's not the element of people masquerading as blonde people and then reducing them to lesser people. We don't have a past of dying our hair blonde as a form of horrid racism. There's also not any real degree of oppression based on hair colour.

Bleaching your hair isn't rooted in old clown shows about slave culture.
Ok, so it's more about the past and basically "you have no right to try to be black because you don't understand what we have been through." is that it? Which is totally fair enough. I can understand that then.


How is changing your hair color different than your skin color?

Yeah, that's what I meant? What's the difference?
 
As a black guy, blackface doesn't bother me as long as you aren't thing to make some kind of joke/insult out of it. I do think it typically looks pretty bad, so you probably shouldn't unless you are really good at face makeup.
 
As a black guy, blackface doesn't bother me as long as you aren't thing to make some kind of joke/insult out of it. I do think it typically looks pretty bad, so you probably shouldn't unless you are really good at face makeup.
And I think people should respect the historical context behind black face no matter what context they want to justify it with. It's literally the same reason the majority of black people have a problem with other races saying nigga. It's about respect and people who constantly do this every fucking year should absolutely not have a platform to stand on. It's a disgusting tradition and those who continue to support it should be berated, and rightfully so.
 
As a black guy, blackface doesn't bother me as long as you aren't thing to make some kind of joke/insult out of it. I do think it typically looks pretty bad, so you probably shouldn't unless you are really good at face makeup.

That's fine, but it doesn't invalidate the grievances of the majority who are bothered.

EDIT: And, the act of doing it altogether is kind of an insult no matter how it's handled, despite the perpetrator's intentions. Ignorance and willful discrimination are two sides of the same coin.
 
Are these the friends you were talking about?
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Is that a black dude painted white?
 
I step out for a couple hours and apparently I missed some grade A fuckery. Not sure if I want to back and read the thread. Is this hilarious fuckery or the type of fuckery that would make me weep for humanity?
 
Wow at the amount of banned people lol!

If you think this is a lot, just wait. Zwarte Piet is just around the corner!

I step out for a couple hours and apparently I missed some grade A fuckery. Not sure if I want to back and read the thread. Is this hilarious fuckery or the type of fuckery that would make me weep for humanity?

With comments like "blacks need to get over it", more the latter tbh. Still has some of the former.
 
It's what happens when you go diet racist and in some cases (shout outs to Charlie reading this) ridiculous foaming at the mouth full blown racist.

I can't breh. Bish making the world a better place

I mean at least Charlie said what all the defenders are thinking, why don't the over sensitive blacks just get over it?
 
Wow at the amount of banned people lol!

All one has to do is read the wikipedia article on it, only 3 paragraphs will help you understand WHY.

Blackface is a form of theatrical makeup used by performers to represent a black person. The practice gained popularity during the 19th century and contributed to the proliferation of stereotypes such as the "happy-go-lucky darky on the plantation" or the "dandified coon".[1] In 1848, blackface minstrel shows were an American national art of the time, translating formal art such as opera into popular terms for a general audience.[2] Early in the 20th century, blackface branched off from the minstrel show and became a form in its own right, until it ended in the United States with the U.S. Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s.[3]

Blackface was an important performance tradition in the American theater for roughly 100 years beginning around 1830. It quickly became popular elsewhere, particularly so in Britain, where the tradition lasted longer than in the US, occurring on primetime TV, most famously in The Black and White Minstrel Show (which ended in 1978)[4] and in Are You Being Served?* '​s Christmas specials in 1976[5] and finally in 1981.[6] In both the United States and Britain, blackface was most commonly used in the minstrel performance tradition, which it both predated and outlasted. White blackface performers in the past used burnt cork and later greasepaint or shoe polish to blacken their skin and exaggerate their lips, often wearing woolly wigs, gloves, tailcoats, or ragged clothes to complete the transformation. Later, black artists also performed in blackface.

Stereotypes embodied in the stock characters of blackface minstrels not only played a significant role in cementing and proliferating racist images, attitudes, and perceptions worldwide, but also in popularizing black culture.[7] In some quarters, the caricatures that were the legacy of blackface persist to the present day and are a cause of ongoing controversy. Another view is that "blackface is a form of cross-dressing in which one puts on the insignias of a sex, class, or race that stands in binary opposition to one's own."[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface

*sigh*

I mostly blame our shitty education system that either downplays history like this, or at worse ignores it.
 
I step out for a couple hours and apparently I missed some grade A fuckery. Not sure if I want to back and read the thread. Is this hilarious fuckery or the type of fuckery that would make me weep for humanity?

It kind of bums me out, a lot of the heat would die down if the characterization of the reaction to these events didn't get blown out of proportion. You can't find common ground if the debate can't agree on the circumference of the problem to begin with.
 
Are these the friends you were talking about?
blackface_universitytoronto_racism.jpg

this is...I guess they're trying to "look black" but they end up looking more Jersey Shore than anything.
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funny thing I knew the dude on the far left was trying to be a redneck...because of the hat and Budweiser bottle.
 
Can anyone give me any insight or background on why this is racist? Not trying to be disrespectful, just really want to know.


I feel like im missing something for not being american, so theres probally some cultural background im missing here?


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All one has to do is read the wikipedia article on it, only 3 paragraphs will help you understand WHY.

Oh. ok. Thanks. Yeah that makes a lot of sense, this is awful.
 
Can anyone give me any insight or background on why this is racist? Not trying to be disrespectful, just really want to know.


I feel like im missing something for not being american, so theres probally some cultural background im missing here?

Black folk were mocked by white people being in blackface and performing as a nigger would. There's much more that my older, more experienced, peers can detail, but for many reasons blackface has left a mark on black people. And people for years plead ignorance when people get upset at it.
 
this is...I guess they're trying to "look black" but they end up looking more Jersey Shore than anything.
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funny thing I knew the dude on the far left was trying to be a redneck...because of the hat and Budweiser bottle.

It's that Paula Deen light carrot-shade they got going on.
Or slept in a tanning bed too long by accident.
 
So putting make up on to resemble a black person is black face? Jesus.

Why is in poor taste to dress up like someone of another race? Whether he's a Kanye fan or not, this isn't any different from a white person wearing an Obama Halloween mask.

It's just Halloween guys. Cool it.
 
So putting make up on to resemble a black person is black face? Jesus.

Why is in poor taste to dress up like someone of another race? Whether he's a Kanye fan or not, this isn't any different from a white person wearing an Obama Halloween mask.

It's just Halloween guys. Cool it.

It isn't the same thing at all. At least look up the historical context of blackface before you make statements like this
 


This isn't a post directed at the posters above but instead directed at these examples that get used in defense for every black face/dress up as a different ethnic group thread (along with White Chicks, black celebrity , comedy movie examples). Where are the "regular people" image defenses for black face? One thing that I've noticed a lack of in these threads over the years in regards to defending black face is images of people of other ethnic groups other than white, that aren't celebrities/comedians/comedy skits, dressed as another ethnic group for Halloween and/or parties (particularly in the US). I think the last "face" thread that didn't involve a white person or black face that I remember being posted on GAF/getting passed around social media was with Nick Cannon.
 
So putting make up on to resemble a black person is black face? Jesus.

Why is in poor taste to dress up like someone of another race? Whether he's a Kanye fan or not, this isn't any different from a white person wearing an Obama Halloween mask.

It's just Halloween guys. Cool it.
I honestly can't tell if you're being serious or not since another came in the thread and said the exact same shit
 
So putting make up on to resemble a black person is black face? Jesus.

Why is in poor taste to dress up like someone of another race? Whether he's a Kanye fan or not, this isn't any different from a white person wearing an Obama Halloween mask.

It's just Halloween guys. Cool it.

Oh man, thank God you showed up. Where have you been this entire thread?

EDIT: Satire played straight is a terrible idea in this thread.
So to be clear ^ I was being sarcastic in the sentences above
 
Surely you didn't expect it to go any other way?

2013, Exhibit A
2013, Exhibit B
2013, Exhibit C
2014
2014, Exhibit B

And that's without touching Zwarte Piet threads.

Oh my god look at all this shit. What a wall of shame. So many posters I recognize saying the most ignorant and heinous shit.

edit - Holy shit, the only thing that strikes me more than seeing all the banned posters is the conspicuous absent of bans for others saying the same old bullshit in those threads.
 
So putting make up on to resemble a black person is black face? Jesus.

Why is in poor taste to dress up like someone of another race? Whether he's a Kanye fan or not, this isn't any different from a white person wearing an Obama Halloween mask.

It's just Halloween guys. Cool it.

What do you think blackface is?

Right as a junior member it terrifies to post here. Never seen so much banned accounts in a thread before.

It shouldn't scare you. The banned posts here have a clear pattern.
 
So putting make up on to resemble a black person is black face? Jesus.

Why is in poor taste to dress up like someone of another race? Whether he's a Kanye fan or not, this isn't any different from a white person wearing an Obama Halloween mask.

It's just Halloween guys. Cool it.

I don't recall white folks in minstrel shows just wearing masks of black people. I must have missed that in my history class.
 
Black folk were mocked by white people being in blackface and performing as a nigger would. There's much more that my older, more experienced, peers can detail, but for many reasons blackface has left a mark on black people. And people for years plead ignorance when people get upset at it.

Yeah, I guess thats certainly understandable and something revolting.

I just tend to think a lot of people like me (who are not american) will not understand the context of it and will get banned for seeing nothing wrong with it.

We should get a clear rule wether this forum is international or 100% USA based.
 
So putting make up on to resemble a black person is black face? Jesus.

Why is in poor taste to dress up like someone of another race? Whether he's a Kanye fan or not, this isn't any different from a white person wearing an Obama Halloween mask.

It's just Halloween guys. Cool it.

I'm hoping this is sarcasm, but if it isn't, did you seriously just pass through 700 posts just to let out this ignorant post? If you have to have someone spell it out for you, yes, wearing make up to look like a black person is exactly what blackface is. Shit is rarely ever a defining feature of the person, without the sign no one would've guessed this is Kanye. Cool it? FOH
 
It isn't the same thing at all. At least look up the historical context of blackface before you make statements like this

I know what black face is. It's from another time where equality wasn't a reality.

This Is now. Why can't this just be an innocent costume and makeup job? Even if he was just going for generic rapper, for Halloween, would trying to make himself look black be unacceptable?

I understand the context from history, but this needs to be okay. If we aren't there yet, we need to get there at some point.
 
Don't try to defend racist things like black face. It's really not that hard.

It amazes me how much people try to fight so that they can do racist things.

Most people that defend this probably wouldn't do it, they just want to defend the idea that racism is dead and that they never have to feel uncomfortable about it.
 
So putting make up on to resemble a black person is black face? Jesus.

Why is in poor taste to dress up like someone of another race? Whether he's a Kanye fan or not, this isn't any different from a white person wearing an Obama Halloween mask.

It's just Halloween guys. Cool it.

Putting on makeup to resemble a black person is black face, son.

And why is it in poor taste? Since you disregarded countless pages of people telling you and others why it's in poor taste, I suggest you do some research on good ol' google if you still don't get it.

It's just diet racism guys. Relax, right? /s

I know what black face is. It's from another time where equality wasn't a reality.

This Is now. Why can't this just be an innocent costume and makeup job? Even if he was just going for generic rapper, for Halloween, would trying to make himself look black be unacceptable?

I understand the context from history, but this needs to be okay. If we aren't there yet, we need to get there at some point.

The onus is not on black people to eliminate racism. If we could get to a point where equality was an actual thing, all this shit wouldn't matter. But it isn't, so here we are.

To be fair, I think black people want to get to that point. Especially when they turn up beat for jaywalking.
 
Yeah, I guess thats certainly understandable and something revolting.

I just tend to think a lot of people like me (who are not american) will not understand the context of it and will get banned for seeing nothing wrong with it.

We should get a clear rule wether this forum is international or 100% USA based.
Its one thing to say something like "I see nothing wrong with it, please educate me" like a dude did in this very page, its another to say "why dont you black people be more like us asians and let shit go".

Nobody its getting banned for being uneducated, they are getting banned for being uneducated, rude and in the case of a few, very, very racist.
 
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