Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC

I'll actually be pretty upset if his thong look is DLC or something. Hot Ryu is incredible, but they didn't even have the guts to make it his default look. Covering up Urien in some cruddy robes and locking his classic outfit behind a paywall would be extremely lame.

Would you be "fuck this I won't pay you a dime you scumbags" upset or "this here is a scummy move you bastards but take my bucks anyway 'cause I want my thong" upset ? :P
 
Would you be "fuck this I won't pay you a dime you scumbags" upset or "this here is a scummy move you bastards but take my bucks anyway 'cause I want my thong" upset ? :P
The latter because I'm a sap. But I would be so angry when punching in the PSN info.

But really Capcom, don't do it.
 
The only instance where I would accept clothed Urien is if he rips it off when he V Triggers
I'd be okay with that as long as his classic look is what's underneath, and that the initial outfit isn't some monstrosity.

I think using V Triggers to provide cool flourishes/changes of appearance is a great mechanic, but both the pre and post trigger look need to be appealing.
 
I'd be okay with that as long as his classic look is what's underneath, and that the initial outfit isn't some monstrosity.

I think using V Triggers to provide cool flourishes/changes of appearance is a great mechanic, but both the pre and post trigger look need to be appealing.

Odds are it will be like Gill, robe removed at the start of the fight.
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Odds are it will be like Gill, robe removed at the start of the fight.
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I hope you're right.

Also, shoutout to Gill's secretary there, Kolin, and her crazy haircut designed specifically to show off SFIII's sprite work. She'd be a cool playable character, gives me Mature vibes.
 
So out of curiosity I was looking at the number of faces on the polygons again to get an idea of outfits.

Urien's character model has 82455 triangles

by comparison Zangief, with the least amount of clothing is 69574 triangles.

Cloth physics need a lot of divisions to flow and look convincing.

If you look at Necalli, he's 97084 triangles because of all that hair that is bound to physics
(and 2 versions of it).

Urien is the guy in the cloak... whether or not that cloak actually comes off at some point, we'll just have to see.
 
So out of curiosity I was looking at the number of faces on the polygons again to get an idea of outfits.

Urien's character model has 82455 triangles

by comparison Zangief, with the least amount of clothing is 69574 triangles.

Cloth physics need a lot of divisions to flow and look convincing.

If you look at Necalli, he's 97084 triangles because of all that hair that is bound to physics
(and 2 versions of it).

Urien is the guy in the cloak... whether or not that cloak actually comes off at some point, we'll just have to see.
:/

How many triangles does Alex have? Like, he better have like almost no triangles. Stop triangles today.
 
I hope you're right.

Also, shoutout to Gill's secretary there, Kolin, and her crazy haircut designed specifically to show off SFIII's sprite work. She'd be a cool playable character, gives me Mature vibes.
Her haircut was meant to show off that SF3 engine supported left and right facing sprites that weren't just mirror images of each other.. Same with Gill's design too..
 
:/

How many triangles does Alex have? Like, he better have like almost no triangles. Stop triangles today.

Alex is 66069 triangles... which is about on par with Ryu at 65k. That means short hair, probably exactly the design we saw in the City in Chaos background.

and just cuz-

Boxer is roughly the same 62817, nothing crazy complex.

Guile is 64276, so again probably roughly the same as he's always been.

Ibuki is 79831, so I'm thinking they put more detail into her hair this time... that's around the same number for Cammy.

Juri is surprising- 76955... I think she definitely has longer hair this time or some medium level cloth physics... that's slightly higher than Karin's number.

FAN is 76756 and has a lot of rigging at 477 bones... I still think he/she has extra arms, tentacles... or some kind of crazy gimmick that it uses in attacks. He might also have a transformation...Necalli has 569 bones... but then Birdie has 450 because of his chains that he attacks with.
 
Seriously, what's up with this game's backgrounds. It's like they forgot about them when creating the characters and didn't have enough graphics left for them.



That fucking texture of something right in the middle of the screen. Let's not forget all the NPCs are animated at 30fps.

They're all(except Karin's, I guess) suffering from a serious case of hideous. Not just technically, but aesthetically too. For months some people haven been telling us that they will be upgraded, but no such upgrades have been detected. Even the PC version is not any better.

eh, it doesn't bother me much
put all the focus on the characters and maintaining 60fps no matter what. easiest and best place to cut stuff form is the background
 
Sorry Urien is going to be wearing the max amount of clothes this time. Will also have a mask.
This is the worst thing I've ever read.

Urien should wear less clothing. Don't even bother with a thong, just use a codpiece
That's the stuff.

Alex is 66069 triangles... which is about on par with Ryu at 65k. That means short hair, probably exactly the design we saw in the City in Chaos background.

and just cuz-

Boxer is roughly the same 62817, nothing crazy complex.

Guile is 64276, so again probably roughly the same as he's always been.

Ibuki is 79831, so I'm thinking they put more detail into her hair this time... that's around the same number for Cammy.

Juri is surprising- 76955... I think she definitely has longer hair this time or some medium level cloth physics... that's slightly higher than Karin's number.

FAN is 76756 and has a lot of rigging at 477 bones... I still think he/she has extra arms, tentacles... or some kind of crazy gimmick that it uses in attacks. He might also have a transformation...Necalli has 569 bones... but then Birdie has 450 because of his chains that he attacks with.
So many triangles, thanks for the info.

Urien seems to have quite a lot, even more than anyone else seemingly. That actually makes me thing that he will take off whatever garment he's wearing. If he just fights in a robe/whatever, why would he need so much surface area? (Alex better rip that damn shirt off too if Capcom knows what's good for them.)

What else makes a better intro for the trailer than a full robe to tease people and have it rip apart for the reveal?
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All would be forgiven. I like the suit better though.

(Hello everyone just reading this page and wondering where the hell you are. Yes, this is what Street Fighter is now.)
 
But in all seriousness I do fully expect the robe to be there for the opening, and then disappear. Unless capcom is trying to be scummy and sell his SF3 look separately.
 
TUT is just a story mode asset that doesn't even appear in any of the character model directories.... wasn't me that said that was a character.

Alright, thanks! I wonder the heck with their plans to keep SFV hype train going on. IF we are going to get newcomer trailer next month then story mode in December. What are we going to hear about in Jan and Feb?

But in all seriousness I do fully expect the robe to be there for the opening, and then disappear. Unless capcom is trying to be scummy and sell his SF3 look separately.

It's weird because many people here want redesigns in general. If Urien get redesign then apparently some people wouldn't have it. I would welcome any redesign for everyone, and if we want their original appearances then we could earn fight money for those costumes.
 
Alright, thanks! I wonder the heck with their plans to keep SFV hype train going on. IF we are going to get newcomer trailer next month then story mode in December. What are we going to hear about in Jan and Feb?



It's weird because many people here want redesigns in general. If Urien get redesign then apparently some people wouldn't have it. I would welcome any redesign for everyone, and if we want their original appearances then we could earn fight money for those costumes.

Costumes and other stages I guess. Also I could see them announcing one of the DLC characters in that time frame as well. They may not be Day 1 DLC, but I could see the first character hitting in march.

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In the case of Urien I think a big part of the reasoning is that him being half naked was kind of the charm to him. Would be like Q getting a redesign and taking away his mask.
Kind of forgoes what was unique about the character. Redesigns to me should keep what was liked about the character, but not completely go crazy with changes. For example Dhalsim was a perfect redesign.
 
Why are noone talking about Dhalsim build being streamed on twitch KayaneTV right now?

Going for an hour or more.. I have not seen Sim being picked yet.......

Chun in 90% of matches and shotos in 50%
Rest of the cast geta played once in a while. No sim.
 
eh, it doesn't bother me much
put all the focus on the characters and maintaining 60fps no matter what. easiest and best place to cut stuff form is the background

I actually found it super distracting when two characters were battling right in front of the 30 fps backgrounds characters. It was real disconcerting when you're trying to judge space between characters, and are getting thrown by the animation taking up the space between them being half the frame rate. It made it feel like the whole game was chugging. That Dhalsim stage is going to look gross.

After the beta, I only really care to play on the waterfall or the grid stage. If they make the classic grass field a stage with no background characters, it'll be the only one I play on.

I hope someone asks them about this soon, because if the PC version remedies this, I'll only get the PC version. I was about to pre-order the PS4 version this week while the PSN $15 back promo was going on, but now I'm not sure.

Perhaps the 30fps elements are a result of the netcode or second parts of stages that we really haven't seen for some. Also, I'm starting to doubt the rumored weather effect thing, and think it might have just been an assumption based on frivolous weather info on the stage select image which has no real meaning. If the characters are taking a hit for those (yet unseen) elements, I don't think it will be worth it.
 
Why are noone talking about Dhalsim build being streamed on twitch KayaneTV right now?

Going for an hour or more.. I have not seen Sim being picked yet.......

Chun in 90% of matches and shotos in 50%
Rest of the cast geta played once in a while. No sim.

Maybe all the players are disappointed Necro stans
 
It's weird because many people here want redesigns in general. If Urien get redesign then apparently some people wouldn't have it. I would welcome any redesign for everyone, and if we want their original appearances then we could earn fight money for those costumes.
Not every character would benefit from a redesign IMO. Urien in particular exemplifies a very specific look, and covering him up with some random robe doesn't really suit his aesthetic. The image of him bursting out of that suit is a pretty definite statement of what they are trying to convey with his design.

In the case of Urien I think a big part of the reasoning is that him being half naked was kind of the charm to him. Would be like Q getting a redesign and taking away his mask.
Kind of forgoes what was unique about the character. Redesigns to me should keep what was liked about the character, but not completely go crazy with changes.
Yeah, this about sums up my feelings.

Hot Ryu and Karin are perfect examples of successful redesigns, because they're new looks make sense with where they are in their lives, but still stay true to the core "feel" of the character, but not every character requires that at this stage.
 
After having to deal with having Zangief back and Dhalsim back and soon having to put up with stupid Guile returning, the least Capcom could do is save me from having to deal with stupid near-naked Urien. Suit please kaythanx.
 
Why would anyone not want Uriens wardrobe revamped/ updated?
Because their current look still successfully conveys the intention and feel of the character? Also because I'm selfish and want to boost the beefcake ratio.

After having to deal with having Zangief back and Dhalsim back and soon having to put up with stupid Guile returning, the least Capcom could do is save me from having to deal with stupid near-naked Urien. Suit please kaythanx.
Suits are only worn so they can be ripped off.
 
Giving Urien a robe instead of a suit might look nice, but once the fight starts, that thing needs to disintegrate. It's been said before, but I hope he'll have his own metal hit and block sound effects.
And please don't mess up his voice, Capcom
 
Thread should be renamed to 'deal with it' now that we know all base characters and the 6 dlc characters:p More ot: the new Dhalsim design is great and really should have been his design from the start.
 
Why would anyone not want Uriens wardrobe revamped/ updated? Not saying a robe is the answer, tho.

Some people (cough), really, really want shirtless/almost naked guys in their Street Fighter.

After having to deal with having Zangief back and Dhalsim back and soon having to put up with stupid Guile returning, the least Capcom could do is save me from having to deal with stupid near-naked Urien. Suit please kaythanx.

I'm with you on the Gief/Sim/Guile crap, but it doesn't matter to me what Urien is wearing, since unlike a lot of the old timers he's only been in 1 SF game. Then again, I'm almost definitely not going to use Urien, so that might be why I don't care.
 
Of course keep in mind the utility of the triangle count on the models is just an educated guess on my part... actually the most detailed model in the game is Nash at over 11K triangles- and really I have no clue why.
 
So there's no Zen? Maybe Zen was Necalli was along? Or he got renamed to FAN....? Weird

There's still one slot left to fill (under Gief) on the character select screen, so there's def another newcomer left (I think Capcom confirmed that in Brazil anyway; 1 returning and 1 new left). Who cares what his name is.
 
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