Oh, god. I just had some terrible flashbacks.
Halo 5: Guardians |OT| The Trials of Osiris
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dragonelite
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Goddam, i really need to work on my nade bouncing techniques always has been a
weak spot for me.
Dude, I just said all weapons that weren't power weapons, lol. The Carbine was completely outclassed by the BR, and really only worth picking up in AR starts.
"Aren't as effective" is being generous, they were useless. The Halo 3 magnum? My God.
The Antitype
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You felt more-so than Halo 2?
I felt like between the AR (which half the audience seems to think was useless, and the other half seems to think was too effective and noob-friendly), the Carbine, the improved Needler, there were some decent mid-range options. Plus they added the vehicle stunning ability to the plasma pistol, so it was more useful to carry too.
At least compared to Halo 2, where by a month in, everybody was using the BR or dual-wielding, which not only made for a lack of variety in engagements, it destroyed the shoot/grenade/melee trifecta.
And the bullet spread on the BR helped keep it in check at distance compared to the BR in Halo 2. Where you could basically engage across an entire map in Halo 2 with the thing, in Halo 3 beyond mid-range it only really allowed you to pester and descope snipers so you could close the gap to mid-range.
That was my experience any way. I'm no pro.
Twilight Gap
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victreeb3l
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In the last level, did anyone else
feel bad for that Promethean Knight that was captured by Exuberant Witness and left in the cell by himself? Dude looked so sad and defeated with his head leaning against the wall. Even Buck made a comment saying this guy is starting to make him feel bad about the knights.
That's ridiculous. There is a risk/reward associated with obtaining power weapons. Obtaining them can alter the course of the match, but they are difficult to get. You need team work to do so, because they are intentionally placed in vulnerable positions (whether it be out in the open or in a choke point). It's been that way since halo:CE, and is part of what make Halo MP, Halo MP.
It should never be changed.
Brute Shot and Carbine didnt do shit in HAlo 3 againsnt a BR, Sniper was OP because you couldnt shoot anyone with your BR in a distance against someone with a Sniper, go Play Valhala AR start in HAlo 3, the guy with the sniper had a 8 guarantee kills.
AR, pistol, Needler, SMG, Spiker, Plasma Rifle and Carbine were a death sentence against someone with a BR, and if the opponent didnt had an BR, it took almost the whole clip to pop the shield.
The Antitype
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Jack The Nipper
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I think it's a bit funny we can get so deep into the gameplay of H3 and fight a bit over it while loving it all at the same time. i think this shows where our hearts really are.
Rather you love or hate H5, I do think a lot of us fans could all be a bit happier with a Halo2/3 style game to go at it at
I am just one of those that hope we get a chance to see how it would work out for the told timers and new guys. It has been so long since we had a standard classic style halo game that even MS can't say how it would work out for them... but I have a feeling it would be welcomed by a larger number than what H5 will be. It's still early but I honestly have no faith in 343. I wish I could, but I hope you guys can't blame me. I just have no faith in them to give me the classic halo.
I understand that, so that is why I mostly stick to the old things as some would suggest "why don't you go play h3" well, I do try at least. I'd just like to have a new game hit that mark to go against a bigger install base and i don't think anyone should blame me for that.
Rather you love or hate H5, I do think a lot of us fans could all be a bit happier with a Halo2/3 style game to go at it at
I am just one of those that hope we get a chance to see how it would work out for the told timers and new guys. It has been so long since we had a standard classic style halo game that even MS can't say how it would work out for them... but I have a feeling it would be welcomed by a larger number than what H5 will be. It's still early but I honestly have no faith in 343. I wish I could, but I hope you guys can't blame me. I just have no faith in them to give me the classic halo. I understand that, so that is why I mostly stick to the old things as some would suggest "why don't you go play h3" well, I do try at least. I'd just like to have a new game hit that mark to go against a bigger install base and i don't think anyone should blame me for that.
Warm Machine
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I can't see how anyone who recently played the MP in MCC can come into 5 and think it is not as good. I love that gun fights can essentially end in draws. Halo 2 does not do this. It is incredibly binary. Halo 3 was better in that regard and Reach found the balance but mostly due to Spartan abilities.
Don't start on grenade spam either. All halo games are like this. Halo 2 is especially a grenade fest and from half way across the map too. The kill zone for a grenade in 5 is about a meter from it on the ground. Other than that it is a wound. Besides the boost allows you to clear the area before they go off.
90% of this game is guns. 10% melee. I'd say it is less melee that 3 or Reach given what my stats used to look like.
Don't start on grenade spam either. All halo games are like this. Halo 2 is especially a grenade fest and from half way across the map too. The kill zone for a grenade in 5 is about a meter from it on the ground. Other than that it is a wound. Besides the boost allows you to clear the area before they go off.
90% of this game is guns. 10% melee. I'd say it is less melee that 3 or Reach given what my stats used to look like.
rakkadakka
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You're not alone.
H3 MP was my favorite up to H5 and I'm loving 5 so far.
They need to fix some things but the foundation is pretty damn solid.
I mean, I guess it was better than 2? I don't think any of the earlier Halo's have that great of a balanced sandbox in MP. There's always been one utility weapon that just shits on everything else and made you at a disadvantage if you didn't have one too, and I don't think that's good design. Halo 5 has fixed that in spades, IMO.
Recon/4.
Diablohead
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someone shop the MCC helmet on chief lol
Today was the day when every Warzone match ended in a last few minutes filled with massive chaos. I love that.
Also, this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p9FRNwOr60
Also, this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p9FRNwOr60
The Antitype
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At least in close quarters maps, dual combo SMG and Plasma Rifles were the shit in 2!
But the sandbox has not been balanced in, well forever. I loved 3 and played a crap load with Ram, but did not enjoy how my shots never landed where I shot. The other dude is using hitscan as an argument for it being bad, which is mind boggling in it self. We needed hit scan back.
This will be simplifying the argument, but if you loved that you could stay alive longer and take on 4 dudes in Halo 3 because the bullets were not guaranteed to land where you shot, its likely you are getting killed in the same scenario in Halo 5 and now hating it. That moment to moment gameplay HAS changed, but I think it changed for the better.
Jack The Nipper
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For most maps, brute shot could be quite effective and kill in 3 or 4 shots if I remember correctly. Needler is for things like taking out OS but should never be used with in team combat that's for sure.
The thing is that everything was pretty much nerfed in H3 and did make the game even more hardcore. nade damange was smaller, rocket damage was pretty small and had a small blast radius. Weapons were made to kill slower but I pretty much enjoyed all of it
maps were actually designed quite better to accompany player size as well. This is where halo 2 feels bad imo, all these small paths and things that you can't fit on or move around on (bungie got really smart in map design from 2 to 3 I believe and I congratulate them on that) . And this is why I actually prefer blackout more than lockout. One of the main reasons atleast.
Poodlestrike
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Pattycakes
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Every time you post I am going to just quote you and ask for that GT. You are talking out of your ass if you won't provide something as simple as that.
Finished the campaign. Talk about leaving me longing for more. Watched the legendary ending on YT and I practically lost control of my bowels. There's so much potential for Halo 6 to be the most incredible game, yet it seems like it would be really easy to fuck it up too.
Godspeed, 343, nail Halo 6 and you will have my eternal gratitude.
Godspeed, 343, nail Halo 6 and you will have my eternal gratitude.
Diablohead
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pistol > BR quite often, the BR feels too loose and suffers over range compared to the pistol, until you use a scoped version in warzone.
Apparently you. Explains all the SALT.
It was impossible to tell in previous games exactly which players the auto aim was benefitting more, and who would have been remotely competent with less or none. We don't have to hypothesize or test aim against teammates in H5, it demonstrably has less reticle stickiness. We now seem to have separated the men from the boys with the skill ceiling blown out so much.
The Antitype
Banned
You're preaching to the choir. I'm loving the shooting in Halo 5. It's different, but it still feels like Halo to me.
Honestly, my only issue with H5 mechanically right now is the radar. Either get rid of it completely or boost it's range slightly, cause right now it's just a useless distraction that I keep paying attention to out of habit. lol
Regret Upon Approval
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Content is lacking but the gameplay is pretty great. So the foundation isn't flawed.
Hope they roll out what is missing on a timely basis.
Warzone though, it seems like 343s idea of Invasion.
Unfortunately Warzone is kinda weak. The Assault variant though is pretty fun.
Probably easy to surmise the complaint is that one lacks a cohesive player flow. Assault, everyone knows what they have to do and where to be.
The other variant, 24 people doing whatever they want for like 20 min.
That was a fun segment.
Hope they roll out what is missing on a timely basis.
Warzone though, it seems like 343s idea of Invasion.
Unfortunately Warzone is kinda weak. The Assault variant though is pretty fun.
Probably easy to surmise the complaint is that one lacks a cohesive player flow. Assault, everyone knows what they have to do and where to be.
The other variant, 24 people doing whatever they want for like 20 min.
That was a fun segment.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I seem to have an issue with my videos. In the games I played my shots connected where I was aiming but in my videos.... my shots are way off the marks and shouldnt be doing damage. Is this a known issue for some. I can try to upload a video of one of my first games if possible. but my shots are no where near them but are killing them in the video. I'ts quite annoying as the shots looked good when I played but look rather stupid in the video.
The Antitype
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I can see that argument.
I think my favorite at the moment is the DMR though.
But that just shows that what Ram said is true. We all have our favorites, each of which has a place in the sandbox that's effective and balanced.
Wow I get you guys want to prove a point, but shit, you're being toxic.
If he gives it what are you gonna do exactly? Shit on him if he's bad? Cool.
Chill out.
The video proves that what you're saying has no basis, and that you have no clue what you're talking about? But I think everyone here already knew that.
I think it's a bit funny we can get so deep into the gameplay of H3 and fight a bit over it while loving it all at the same time. i think this shows where our hearts really are.
Rather you love or hate H5, I do think a lot of us fans could all be a bit happier with a Halo2/3 style game to go at it at
I understand that, so that is why I mostly stick to the old things as some would suggest "why don't you go play h3" well, I do try at least. I'd just like to have a new game hit that mark to go against a bigger install base and i don't think anyone should blame me for that.
I dunno, I don't even think I would have played MCC for long had it not had the shit launch it did. I've played those games to death, and the few times I got MCC to work properly, I felt no attachment to them whatsoever. I felt they had all aged very poorly, and after playing the beta for 5, it made it even more apparent to me.
The Antitype
Banned
Yeah, we all have highlight reel moments, but I thought that clip was pretty impressive regardless.
Specifically, it looked like he was aiming head the entire time and nailing perfects. If I don't go for body shots first to drop shields, I never nail a perfect, lol. I need the wider target of center mass before I take the extra nanosecond/inhale on the final kill shot.
TheCanisDirus
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need 2 for Arena and Breakout
GT: gun fer hire
GT: gun fer hire
I believe they want to see how much he has played of 5.
Bah, enough of comparisons. He is welcome to dislike the game. If he believes this is not the Halo he loved, then I guess the series has left him behind.
I am glad from my perspective that this Halo is basically everything I wanted from the gameplay side. I just want more maps.
Twilight Gap
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That clip would be about 20 seconds shorter in any of the last four Halo games.
Unless he used armor lock
Unless he used armor lock
100% agreed.
His GT is probably one of the dudes getting blasted in that clip
I think every Halo since Halo 2 have had a big patch to balance some things out, I doubt one is going to be any different.
and For what it worth, I love Halo 3, loving this game so far, liked Halo 2, Hated Halo Reach (and even like that, I made it to Reclaimer)
Stinkles check your Inbox.
Digital Limit
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Can't connect to multiplayer servers... Odd.
The Antitype
Banned
Gunplay and movement, yeah.
I think some of the frustration is people don't have as much time and space as they had in previous Halos. Hence the longing for wider, more open, horizontal maps. They want to see people coming and engage at 50 meters out, they don't like having to account for players crossing gaps quickly, or the fact that they can clamber around to approach from unexpected angles.
I admit, it's taking a toll on my KD thus far. And there has been plenty of swearing. But I'm enjoying it and feel like I'm getting better at processing the action at a faster rate. Slowly but surely.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I've been getting disconnected from my game constantly. Worked perfectly on launch.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I don't want to shit on him, I just want to see if he can back up his claims. He wants to position himself as an authority? Fine. I just want to check his credentials. That's all.
Or maybe he could use another argument than "I'm right because I say so," that would work too.
shhh no, it's because he's good
Oh boy...
That GT though...
Cause now I'm really curious if your bite backs up that bark.
Edit: For clarity, I have no intention of making an issue regardless of if those stats are given or not, but your not gonna crap on my clip without at least showing me better. I'll even take a PM and not address it in the thread at all.
Edit2: didn't mean it how it was originally typed, reread and fixed accordingly.
Haha--that was in response to his "maybe you're just bad" post
and follow up gifs showing absolutely clueless opponents. But I see you read what you want to read, as are most people countering me.NoLongerALurker
Banned
Yeah, something needs to be done. It hasn't been a problem for me, but I killed the same guy 3 straight times who spawned in basically the same place. I sent a message to him after the game because I felt bad...