Street Fighter V Roster Discussion |Thread 2| Deal with it & place your hope for DLC

SF story never follows a line, Capcom stated several times that they don't have a canon and that new entries act as a revision of the previous ones.

In addition to that consider that even inside the same game, to play with a player or with another often contradict other endings because the story of each character is a 'what if?', so you'd need to consider which endings are canon and which aren't even inside a game, something that Capcom didn't make.

And well, obviously movies, comics and other stuff not made by Capcom isn't canon at all.

Let's hope this time in the Story mode they make a single canon story for the game, one where you don't always play with the same character like in the old DBZ games (I didn't play the last Mortal Kombat).

And then they can include a separate arcade mode where you always play with the same character and each one may have their own what if story without considering if it fits with the main story or not. Obviously it would be great that all the endings would fit with the other ones and the main story.

And if they want to add future DLC/purchasable stuff they may even expand the story with new episodes, maybe even making chapters for the main story of SF1, FF, SFA, SF2, SF3 and SF4 once they added the main characters involved (but I'd hate to see Gill or Seth without having like 3 or 4 dozens of characters before).
 
He was shot by a chopper and thrown off a cliff and the round one udon movie also depicts the same.

He was betrayed by people from the army, which is why he's operating alone in Alpha 3. His story in Alpha 3 clearly was intended to be a follow up to his ending in Alpha 2.

Maybe they'll ignore it now, but at this point it hasn't been retconned yet.
 
edit: thumbs up to my fellow ingrid fans :D
To the few sun goddess haters though...

If i learned anything about sun goddesses. When they introduce the moon/cosmos version of that character they will be infinitely more popular . And the sun one fades into the background despite being formatable.

That filter makes me want to stab my eyes.

Also lol at people who don't think Dan is worth a slot. Dan is the best shoto, if not the only one who isn't boring.

The only shoto I think is boring is ryu, because his attitude. Dan's fun, i'm not crying he doesn't come back. The thing about joke characters, is eventually the joke runs out. And then you just kind of have a character. And that's dan, just a bad character. yeah SNK ryu, but I mean, I don't care. The joke is long sense gone, for me at least. I don't hate dan or anything but he isn't anything special for me either. He's just sort of dan.

Whens Black Widow

Black Widow will be DLC, Joyline Mishima first dibs on sF4 dlc because she's most popular

I mean

Kazuya survived being thrown to a volcano and he only missed one game

And that wasn't even because of the volcano, he just wanted to not be around. Then again, having a satan inside you and being related to Heihachi the undying helps with the not dying.
 
lol

not knowing the superior attitude when you see it

That would be Ken.

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Alpha 3 endings are what if scenario for charlie, since he got shot down and was thrown off a cliff in A2. Yet, he miraculously appears in A3. SFV charlie should follow the A2 ending.

Yup Alpha 3 isnt canon.

When you look at SF 4 Guile intro , its quite obviously a reference to Alpha 2 Charlie ending.

I think its safe to say for now canon is SF1->Alpha2->ST->SF4->SFV->3S? ( 3S could also be retconned , since SF4 already did some wrt to Ibuki,Makoto age)

The other titles are just revisioned or what if scenarios.
 
Alpha 3 is canon. It was the waterfall that he didn't die at.

From the plot guide:

Street Fighter Zero 3: Nash is a first lieutenant of the American air
force. His inquiries of drug activity all pointed back to "Shadaloo". He
gathered his comrades to form a strike team. His objective: ...end
corruption in the army, and punish the man responsible! Nash teamed up
with Interpol officer Chun-Li to go after Shadaloo. Because it was against
orders (The army itself being too corrupted to do it), Guile was sent to go
after him, but ran into him right when he had found Vega! It was then
that Guile realized what was going on and joined up with Nash to fight
Vega and force him to retreat. After that, Guile, Nash, and Chun-Li join to
take down Vega once and for all. The three managed to meet up at and
infiltrate Shadaloo's base. Chun-Li prepares to plant explosives around the
base, while Nash and Guile head right for the source of Vega's immortality and
power, the psycho drive. [Conjecture based off in-game storylines]. However,
when they went there to plant the explosives, Vega was waiting! Vega was
about to kill Guile with a psycho crusher, but then Nash grabbed Vega out of
it! Nash finally ended up sacrificing himself to hold off Vega while the
psycho drive that made Vega invincible began to blow up, and Nash and Vega
were both in the room when it, along with Shadaloo's entire base, exploded.
[Official]

As to why Bison got messed up there, it's because Ryu, Ken, and Sakura all got to fight Bison, causing him to retreat to the Psycho Drive for more power.
 
Alpha 3 is canon. It was the waterfall that he didn't die at.

Idk man being shot by a chopper gun and falling off a cliff and yet have no mention of it at all in A3. For the moment being I'll consider it not canon until SFV proves otherwise. The round one movie and Udon comics (lol) make it reference that was the last time charlie was seen.
 
Don't worry. Both art and champ agrees that he sucks and feels incomplete. I would hope that people find some stuff, or Capcom buff him, but it's clear they are still scared as hell to make him too strong in that he seems incredibly weak as of now.

I personally don't care if he's tourney viable or not. As long as he has some fun tools I'm interested. But this is the first public testing of Sim and he's gotta be hellacious to balance so I'm sure he'll get some buffs in later revisions.
 
Idk man being shot by a chopper gun and falling off a cliff and yet have no mention of it at all in A3. For the moment being I'll consider it not canon until SFV proves otherwise. The round one movie and Udon comics (lol) make it reference that was the last time charlie was seen.

That would make his A2 ending retconned then. Both the round one movie and Udon comics are not canon - everything in the plot guide is sourced from official stuff from Capcom themselves.

Either it 1). didn't happen at all, because Capcom thought it would be cooler for him to die with Bison, or 2.) it happened, but he came back somehow because lolstreetfighterplot.
 
That would make his A2 ending retconned then. Both the round one movie and Udon comics are not canon - everything in the plot guide is sourced from official stuff from Capcom themselves.

Either it 1). didn't happen at all, because Capcom thought it would be cooler for him to die with Bison, or 2.) it happened, but he came back somehow because lolstreetfighterplot.

I don't think Ibuki's age is ever stated in any of the games. We just know she attends school in 4, and heads off to university during the end-course of SF3.
 
David Philip Graham ‏@ultradavid 16m16 minutes ago
@SimSimIV @ZakoLive @_P2W_ champ just told me spent 4 hours trying to figure out what to do with dhalsim and came away with nothing heh

Sim is ass:P
 
Sim hasn't changed at all. It's obvious what to do when you pick him

Stop struggling and accept the rushdown Kappa
 
Sim hasn't changed at all. It's obvious what to do when you pick him

Stop struggling and accept the rushdown Kappa

Champ has a more aggressive Sim than most, he also has a lot of exp with other chars than Sim. I think he would have tried to think outside the sf4 box in 2 days and 5hrs+ of playing him. Not saying he has found all there is to find, but I think he can probably comment on how Sim seems to play and be in this game as of now.
 
Champ has a more aggressive Sim than most, he also has a lot of exp with other chars than Sim. I think he would have tried to think outside the sf4 box in 2 days and 5hrs+ of playing him. Not saying he has found all there is to find, but I think he can probably comment on how Sim seems to play and be in this game as of now.

Oh I agree.

I mean it's possible that Sim has some radical new gameplan which people aren't picking up on, but it's seeming more and more unlikely.

Still, maybe once he becomes more accessible people will know, People did think Dudley was low tier and all before.
 
Champ has a more aggressive Sim than most, he also has a lot of exp with other chars than Sim. I think he would have tried to think outside the sf4 box in 2 days and 5hrs+ of playing him. Not saying he has found all there is to find, but I think he can probably comment on how Sim seems to play and be in this game as of now.
His whole thing feels like it's just about abusing Yoga Float right now.
 
My tears are more because it has almost none of my most wanted characters. Eagle? Abel? Ingrid? T. Hawk? Geki? Waiting that long for Rose and Poison would be brutal also.

And there's bound to be some more brand new characters too, and the potential for newly introduced characters from related games like Final Fight and Saturday Night Slam Masters.

Yeah I'm really hoping Eagle makes it in. I'm not going to hold my breath and I'm honestly thankful we ever got him as a playable character at all. Everyone I played CVS2 with thought he was an obscure SNK character, but I always liked him despite how badly he used to trash me in SF1. I was stuck on him for quite awhile

I also wondered why the made El Fuerte instead of using El Stingray, but part of that isI hate El Fuerte. I'll agree Slam Masters is underrated too, awesome games.
 
Is it true that you have to go into V-trigger to use Nash's (better) combos?

If true, are there other characters that must do this as well and is it that big of a burden?
 
Is it true that you have to go into V-trigger to use Nash's (better) combos?

If true, are there other characters that must do this and is it that big of a burden?
V-Trigger activation is a combo extension for most characters. Nash's may be an issue because everyone else gets a powerup mode in addition to the extension.
 
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