wesleyshark
Banned
Nov 16th!
Halo 5: Guardians |OT| The Trials of Osiris
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
MarauderShields
Member
Fucking all Forged BTB. Shameful.
Bornstellar
Member
Nokyard had indicated that there were real BTB maps coming as well. Where are those?
At least Basin, visually, looks quite good compared to the majority of the forged maps.
Fata1moose
Banned
Not only are they forged maps they are inspired by bad maps (Valhalla Longbow) Headlong is the only decent map of the bunch, though hopefully these spirtual successors will be better. Longbow had awful sight lines, Valhalla had the opposite problem where there was too much cross mapping. Standoff was just kind of mediocre, something similar could work in Halo 5.
Warm Machine
Member
Think about how painful it would be to design and artify these maps. Just designing them would be a nightmare as they would constantly have to get full games for every medium sized iteration to check for balance and receive feedback. I'm not surprised but what I would love to see is when the levels settle they put a strike team to do the art for them. BTW 343, I'll do that job.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I couldn't disagree with more. This is easily the best a Halo campaign has ever been. Level design has never been better, the gameplay and options available to the player in combat has never been more diverse and fun. The weapons have never felt better. The enemy AI is the best of the series as far as I'm concerned. The story was pretty damn amazing and the characters were handled quite well all around. Halo 6 is going to be something else, that much is obvious from this game.
Good update. BTB next week, and the maps look like they'll play really well. Didn't really notice the Mark V in the helmet shapes of upcoming REQ'S though...
That clip at the bottom, that's probably why they allow for people to steal boss kills. Guy waited like 2 minutes with a spartan laser to take down Warden at the end.
That clip at the bottom, that's probably why they allow for people to steal boss kills. Guy waited like 2 minutes with a spartan laser to take down Warden at the end.
DarthWalden
Banned
It's wierd, It seems people either absolutely love the campaign or absolutely hate it.
I don't think I've seen anyone say "it was pretty good,middle of the pack in terms of halo games"
It's either the best or the worst campaign ever depending on who you ask
I don't think I've seen anyone say "it was pretty good,middle of the pack in terms of halo games"
It's either the best or the worst campaign ever depending on who you ask
Cant wait for BTB. That's my game mode.
I always feel my aim is off with it but im definitely going to give it another shot.
wesleyshark
Banned
They look good though 👌
AHappyPanda
Member
Trying to run some Team Arena if anyone is down.
Panda Owning Em
Think I'm a Plat 2.
Panda Owning Em
Think I'm a Plat 2.
soulassssns
Banned
Was there an update? I don't see any BTB playlist.
They probably have people working on new armor / helmet / skins instead of BTB art
I really hate forge maps
What do you mean? Is this different from how it is otherwise? You can only stabilize with any weapon you're scoped.
Eh, I'm more middle ground. I think the level design was much better than Halo 4 but that the story was really poor, along with enemy encounters. I don't know how anyone can say this AI has been the best ever. Completely pales in comparison to Reach. Teammates also have some of the worst AI I've ever seen in the series.
Fata1moose
Banned
Good with the low standards we put on Forge maps. In the Sprint they showed these maps along with a Sidewindere remake, which isn't here. Hopefully we get a real Sidewinder remake not done in Forge.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Bornstellar
Member
+ A two for one tank kill.
link1201
Member
next week
I meant zooming in from 4x to 9x. It goes to 9x automatically
MarauderShields
Member
Well at least they are giving us more variants of the Mongoose. Can never have too many of those.
Fata1moose
Banned
Well these are dedicated maps, they just happen to be in Forge.
Also, those shapes in the REQ packs don't look like Mk. V, I bet they have more ugly over-designed variants though, because that makes sense.
DarthWalden
Banned
That's what I've noticed... Maybe thats why it's so divisive... It does a ton of great things, the sandboxs has never been bigger, fuller, or had this much to do and the gameplay has never felt better yet at the same time the friendly AI Is embarrassingly shitty, the frequent boss battles are downright frustrating and the story (which I haven't finished yet) obviously is disappointing to a great deal of people.
I think he probably means it's not like Reach where they just threw campaign levels like Spire and Boneyard into multi-player and BTB and said have at it.
I mean the Forge team essentially created each map just for BTB only. So it is a dedicated map? Or maybe I'm wrong. I just assumed based off the Sprints and pretty much everything I've read that BTB would pretty much be Forge only.
Twilight Gap
Member
Really don't like the plastic look of those Forge pieces. The valhalla and standoff maps look nice though. See some interesting scenery objects on the Headlong.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
I'd say they are clearly subsets of the main Forge landscape map.
I don't take that to mean they're not forged, rather that it means the maps accommodate 8v8 w/ vehicles.
And that's not what he was alluding to.
Fata1moose
Banned
But the context of that post was saying they aren't cuts of the Warzone maps. These are layouts designed for BTB. It doesn't mean we won't see DLC BTB maps, but in a sense these are certainly dedicated.
Diablohead
Member
I can never kill with the thing, even up close lol
The forge "spaces" were developed to be BTB spaces that could do double duty as blank Forge palettes. You can kinda see it just by looking out at them from the Arena forge variants but my quote was actually talking about why warzone maps couldn't just double as BTB maps as is.
I think it will click properly when you play them this month.
I think it will click properly when you play them this month.
Unless I was lied to by reddit, you can't set secondary weapon to none. :/
soulassssns
Banned
Oh ok. Thanks
RSB
Banned
Heh, for me it's exactly in the middle. Better than Reach, 2 and 4, but worse than CE, 3 and ODST. 343 is on the right track IMO, but they really should bring back those big vehicle battles for Halo 6.
And please no more Boss Fights, they just don't work in Halo.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
The new mechanics and movement would prevent this from happening. Maps would need to be redesigned with Halo 5 gameplay in mind (like Truth).
Edit: But BTB coming in 10 days sounds really nice, even if the maps are Forged. Being inspirations from previous BTB maps, they should at least be decent.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Direct porting the assets, the 3d models and textures, is very simple. However, adapting the playspace to the updated sandbox and ambient sfx/vfx is anything but.
I'd imagine.
With sprint, clamber, boost and more they would all be instantly broken- hence inspired by- they all need tweaks for those aspects alone.
Fata1moose
Banned
Some of the best maps wouldn't work in the Halo 5 sandbox. Valhalla and Blood Gulch are such examples where the cross mapping fire ruins all map flow. Ragnarok was bad for this reason, that and the Mantis putting a nail in map movement. Though a couple maps with their sight lines and movement would still work such as Waterworks and Sidewinder. Headlong should work fairly well too, but that forge map is quite ugly.
You might be trying to use it like the shotgun? Get up close and just fire off a few rounds in quick succession, they'll disintegrate man.
Remember they bounce tooBornstellar
Member
Does that mean there won't be any purpose built BTB maps? Everything will be off a forge canvas?
That's dumb.
Fata1moose
Banned
Because that's totally what he said.
