gamechanger87
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Yes. They were pissed off at him because of his message. People get pissed off at these groups because they want you to get pissed off at them. They are doing it for a rise.
BLM protesters at Dartmouth College storm library and yell at people
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Yes. They were pissed off at him because of his message. People get pissed off at these groups because they want you to get pissed off at them. They are doing it for a rise.
Kid Kamikaze10
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Not just his message, but his tone, and how activists were protesting. Among many other things.
Some of which are being repeated in this thread and in the US right now.
Well, they want you to get pissed off at the system.
Orbis Tabula
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If this version of events is accurate (which seems suspect) then it's kind of a dick move. But it's whatever. I've been more inconvenienced by shitty a capella groups doing pranks when I was studying on campus. I wouldn't be too pissed about the disruption myself. I doubly wouldn't mind, since I think it's for a good cause.
NoblesseOblige
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People were pissed at MLK because he was a black man who dared speak up. Same reason many people hate BLM.
excelsiorlef
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Waiting for more information is for Cops only clearly.
Whom_Gods_Annoy
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People who are saying MLK didn't go around pissing people off should watch Selma.
If you thought that was my intention it is not, in fact quite the opposite. I was referring to how he kept not listening to LBJ, who because of MLK and his followers' actions signed into law the the most important piece of civil rights legislation of the 20th century.
If you thought that was my intention it is not, in fact quite the opposite. I was referring to how he kept not listening to LBJ, who because of MLK and his followers' actions signed into law the the most important piece of civil rights legislation of the 20th century.
A lot of people were pissed off at the Selma to Montgomery marches :-/
Thelonelykoopa
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meh doesn't seem that big of a deal I watched a video and if you need work done you could easily ignore the chants and it doesn't appear they knocked anything over so it seems fine to me.
gamechanger87
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Is their target audience getting pissed off at the system or pissed off at the protesters?
If it ends up being the latter then you have lost your cause.
Heavy_D206
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MLK gave some AMAZING speeches that stand the test of time.
I've yet to see anyone from BLM give a speech as prolific as one from MLK. The entire thing feels disorganized IMO.
I've yet to see anyone from BLM give a speech as prolific as one from MLK. The entire thing feels disorganized IMO.
Given the Dartmouth review site is down it is hard to verify with the actual source.
Based on the video I didn't see much to be concerned about.
However I hope what is reported doesn't turn out true. It would be a shame if some stupid college kids aligned with the movement stooped to these sort of tactics.
Based on the video I didn't see much to be concerned about.
However I hope what is reported doesn't turn out true. It would be a shame if some stupid college kids aligned with the movement stooped to these sort of tactics.
AnathemicOne
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Not every student has the same level of mental fortitude as you do unfortunatly, hence why libraries exist.
Every fucking thread on BLM seems to have this shit... I don't think it's intentional every time, to be sure, but man people really need to study up more on the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s.
Thelonelykoopa
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You don't need mental fortitude only ear phones at least at my university people are always chatting in the library (Though it's part coffee shop and lounge)
Not saying he didn't do that, because clearly he was disruptive but wasn't Selma considered fairly historically inaccurate? At least that is what I kept hearing on NPR and elsewhere though I haven't personally seen the film. Especially on the political front and with regards to LBJ?
BennyBlanco
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Well he was a top tier public speaker. One of the best of all time. Not fair to expect that of everyone.
That's quite the logical leap you made. x doesn't give speeches as prolific and as memorable as MLK therefore x is disorganized.
I think it is just an ingrained reflex, that most people don't realize they are doing. Because their experience with civil rights don't extend past the "I have a dream" speech,
He shut down a fucking highway, could you imagine what people would have said if Facebook was around back then?
So if BLM was more well spoken you would have more respect for them?
Kid Kamikaze10
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And yet, he still got shot up. Which is a far cry to what would have happened to him if he had survived that. And his legacy has been mischaracterized and whitewashed eversense.
That's how much MLK and his speeches are appreciated.
Also, the logic leap for this is just plain odd.
Google cache of the Dartmouth Article:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...test/+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
Should probably be added to the OP
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...test/+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
Should probably be added to the OP
NoblesseOblige
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Is there a prolific black rights activist before him that they could point to and say "if only you were like him"? If so, then they'd probably be doing that.
Vicetrailia
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I really hope you didn't type this with a straight face.
Heavy_D206
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I'm not saying everyone associated with BLM needs to be a world class public speaker, but shouldn't there be at least one or two people who will make a real impact with their words?
Something that will be in History Books 50 years from now is what I want.
I am sure they threw Fredick Douglas, Crispus Attucks, and Harriet Tubman in his face
LiquidSword
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There isn't really a need to wonder what they would say lol
http://www.newsweek.com/ferguson-police-black-lives-matter-protests-361765
Nvm posted a banned source
Angelus Errare
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People invoke MLK in racial threads like he's the only pokemon in their possession.
Whom_Gods_Annoy
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Where are the leaders? ect. ect. ect.
Captin Quacker
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smh
Kid Kamikaze10
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Ok. If you think this, then help out. Meet up with one of the local chapters online or off, and see if you can provide new, non-asinine ideas.
If it is really effective, I'm sure they would appreciate it.
Veritigo_X
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Funny how quickly you'll take the word of a questionable source. Breitbart's got your back at least.
AnathemicOne
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Political climate and society has changed since then. If you were to shut down a freeway in California I'd guarantee you bodies will be on the ground no matter how good your intention was.
Do you know of anyone who's affiliated with BLM?
Heavy_D206
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Basically yeah.
I know I'm old school on this way of thinking, but trying to have a movement solely over Twitter just doesn't work for me.
It feels very disjointed.
But it is just not on twitter.
This made the rounds on social media yesterday. I don't recall seeing any sources for the racist comments aside from the Dartmouth Review article, and the video I remember seeing didn't include them.
But let's say it all happened as reported, then these kids are going about protesting the wrong way and are destroying their own message by being racist themselves. I was told the area around that campus isn't affluent. In-state tuition is free for those from households earning less than $75(sic). So some of these protesters are getting free rides themselves to college if this is the case. That looks terrible for them to rush into a library and yell at others about "privilege" and "comfort". And there's a difference between disruption and civil disobedience and assault and hate.
Just bad form. If this is all true it is a demolishing blow to the movement.
But let's say it all happened as reported, then these kids are going about protesting the wrong way and are destroying their own message by being racist themselves. I was told the area around that campus isn't affluent. In-state tuition is free for those from households earning less than $75(sic). So some of these protesters are getting free rides themselves to college if this is the case. That looks terrible for them to rush into a library and yell at others about "privilege" and "comfort". And there's a difference between disruption and civil disobedience and assault and hate.
Just bad form. If this is all true it is a demolishing blow to the movement.
Kid Kamikaze10
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It began offline, well before the hashtag.
Whom_Gods_Annoy
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You must have missed my sarcasm.
It's not solely over twitter. Multiple members of the larger BLM organization have had meeting with politicians and presidential candidates to air grievances, they put together community organizations and voter registration drives, they give speeches and hold town-hall style meetings.
You only see one part of it because you're only looking in one place.
I mean, that's one way to look at it. And it's convenient because then there are no real downsides to protesting in disruptive ways, no trade-offs. But is it true? I think to see movement on any political issue, you need to convince not just the people who would already lean in your direction, but the middle. The median voter. Saying "well they probably weren't going to listen anyway" or the equivalent is effectively giving up on those people, because the people in the middle are exactly the kind of person who might be pushed away by aggressive or disruptive tactics.
So I think there is probably a trade-off there. Disruptive protests are a great way to get attention--the media is biased towards the unusual and the interesting, which is why you see stories about angry disruptive protests much more often than you do about peaceful protests where people just stand around with signs. It's very effective in that regard. On the other hand, my suspicion is that that same disruptiveness also works to push away some of the people in the middle who might otherwise support the underlying cause.
I don't know where that leaves us as far as ideal strategy and tactics. Maybe the best long-term strategy is initial disruptiveness to draw attention to an issue, followed by slow conversion of the people in the middle until change is actually effected. I think gay rights sort of worked like this, though I don't know if that was intentional.
Of course he would believe shit from Breitbart:
See, the blacks turning to extremes was just a matter of time for him.
Feels like it's early for finals, before Thanksgiving?
At my school, at least, finals season started the week after Thanksgiving, with review classes and extra study sessions starting maybe the week before Thanksgiving, depending on the professor.
Edit: Yeah, exams start on the week of December 10th, so while it's still time to study, I wouldn't call it finals season.
BLM just needs to be more respectable. Pull up their pants, stand up straight, stop whining so much, maybe someone will take them seriously.
I honestly wish more of this would happen. More of the Missouri footall strike. A staunch protest from a position of power or a massive show of solidarity and outrage. But this, I can't help but shake my head since it comes off like a storm in a tea cup. Like protesting at city Hall and then a week later protesting sewage Joe and his sanitation department. Stuff like this feels beneath BLM. But what do I know.
Heavy_D206
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Yes, almost every week actually as part of political radio show I work for.
I even spent 10 years with Air America radio so I've seen a lot of political action. Both good and bad.
This is exactly what is happening with BLM. If you remember the movement wasn't really known much outside the world of social activism until they interrupted Sanders. After that he had a conversation with a few prominent members of the movement and his platform was changed radically.
The same could be said of the Hillary interruption and subsequent conversation.
It's happening in smaller ways too. They may block a highway one day but the next they're holding voter registration drive or cleaning up a park or quietly handing out pamphlets. We might have a biased view because we only hear about the salaciousness of their more vocal protests in the mainstream media.
People who've only experienced the movement through videos of their more vocal and disruptive protests may be turned off, but people who experience the movement through their more community oriented efforts probably aren't. Either way they've gained visibility and started conversation precisely by being disruptive. It's almost a mirror to the sit-ins and highway blocking and marches of the 60s civil rights movement.
People maybe forgot, but sit-ins were disruptive as fuck.
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