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Hard West (supernatural turn-based western) launch trailer. Out now on Steam.
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Shake Appeal
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I bought this the other day. Looking forward to getting home and playing.
arts&crafts
Member
I saw this the other day, looks awesome. Sadly I have FO4 and JC3 until the new year but will be wishlisting.
Shake Appeal
Member
Reviews are pretty lackluster:
IGN: 7.3
Destructoid: 5/10
The Escapist: 3.5/5
IGN: 7.3
Destructoid: 5/10
The Escapist: 3.5/5
FrenchMovieTheme
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Hmmm maybe...
Reviews are pretty lackluster:
IGN: 7.3
Destructoid: 5/10
The Escapist: 3.5/5
I mean, games like this usually lack a certain amount of polish and the things that put AAA games over the top, so it's best to watch video impressions or something to figure out whether the flaws bother you or not before making the plunge. I've found that this works well for smaller budget indie games.
Reviews are pretty lackluster:
IGN: 7.3
Destructoid: 5/10
The Escapist: 3.5/5
Booooooo. But thanks for posting. Will keep a look out for some more user reviews / gaffer opinion and lets play type things. Was going to just buy it and see if I liked it, then refund in the worst case scenario
Hari Seldon
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Does anyone know when they received their key for this to help narrow my email searching?
Shake Appeal
Member
So, I played the first "scenario" of this (the scenarios are little self-contained stories that have some degree of roguelike-ness to them, as far as I can make out).
It's pretty good. It would make a better tablet game perhaps, as both the strategic and tactical layers feel a little shallow compared to other games in the genre. It's still fun, but on first play it kinda sorely needs an overwatch action, as you get into a lot of annoying stalemates where you have to back off and wait for risk of being flanked. And it really is a game of flank or be flanked; there are not a lot of dice rolls at work here (it even rounds hit percentages >80% up to 100%).
Also, you don't seem to have more than two or three characters available at any one time, so it doesn't have anything approaching the synergy of actions, buffs, throwables and general sequencing that, say, vanilla XCOM does.
It is super-stylish and the little encounters and narrative there have been so far have been satisfying. We need more Weird West games.
This is not a classic on first play, but it has lots of cool ideas and feels unique.
It's pretty good. It would make a better tablet game perhaps, as both the strategic and tactical layers feel a little shallow compared to other games in the genre. It's still fun, but on first play it kinda sorely needs an overwatch action, as you get into a lot of annoying stalemates where you have to back off and wait for risk of being flanked. And it really is a game of flank or be flanked; there are not a lot of dice rolls at work here (it even rounds hit percentages >80% up to 100%).
Also, you don't seem to have more than two or three characters available at any one time, so it doesn't have anything approaching the synergy of actions, buffs, throwables and general sequencing that, say, vanilla XCOM does.
It is super-stylish and the little encounters and narrative there have been so far have been satisfying. We need more Weird West games.
This is not a classic on first play, but it has lots of cool ideas and feels unique.
texhnolyze
Banned
Whistlisted!
Don't mind the journalist reviews, user reviews seem positive.
Don't mind the journalist reviews, user reviews seem positive.
User 479360
Banned
Vlodril
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I like what i ve played so far (only about 2 hours in) but the lack of manual saving means that you have to redo the whole maps (combat areas) if someone dies. And its very easy to die because most can one shot you.
As the poster above said the lack of an overwatch mechanic means you have to be really far from enemies or you MUST kill them otherwise they will flank you and one shot you meaning you have to redo the whole area.
I just did one of the missions 3 times. Too bad the game doesnt autosave either in time passed or anything like that only before and after combat missions.
If you dont mind that though the game has some great atmosphere, interesting setting and characters.
As the poster above said the lack of an overwatch mechanic means you have to be really far from enemies or you MUST kill them otherwise they will flank you and one shot you meaning you have to redo the whole area.
I just did one of the missions 3 times. Too bad the game doesnt autosave either in time passed or anything like that only before and after combat missions.
If you dont mind that though the game has some great atmosphere, interesting setting and characters.
Another review for this. Eurogamer seems to enjoy it.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-11-19-hard-west-review
Despite its limitations, then, Hard West is a game that punches well above expectations. Its developers took some bold design decisions that, for the most part, really pay off. It's occasionally clunky and frequently exploitable, but it's also genuinely memorable. CreativeForge Games may not be the best writers in the business, but they sure as hell ain't no snake oil salesmen.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-11-19-hard-west-review
Despite its limitations, then, Hard West is a game that punches well above expectations. Its developers took some bold design decisions that, for the most part, really pay off. It's occasionally clunky and frequently exploitable, but it's also genuinely memorable. CreativeForge Games may not be the best writers in the business, but they sure as hell ain't no snake oil salesmen.
Salty Catfish
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This quote from the game in their review is hilarious:
A mining drill AND a good old-fashioned insanity gauge? All in a day's work.
Probably wont get this because the entire UI will probably be tiny as fuck playing about 9 feet away on my 55 inch HDTV...getting sick and tired of this and boycotting...
That being said,it also looks complicated as fuck...which is not always a bad thing but not in the mood for that right now...I also was disappointed in Banner Saga and besides the art style,seems similar.
That being said,it also looks complicated as fuck...which is not always a bad thing but not in the mood for that right now...I also was disappointed in Banner Saga and besides the art style,seems similar.
Shake Appeal
Member
It's actually not that complicated, especially the tactical layer. It plays faster (and much simpler) than XCOM.
Also, I'm really enjoying it despite its flaws and shallowness.
Also, I'm really enjoying it despite its flaws and shallowness.
Karak
Member
My review for ACG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPaeGYLBqyI
Rated it a Buy
Absolutely fantastic mix of gameplay styles that I wasn't expecting and a character builders dream. Lots of ways you could go about things with the card system.
Love how simple the gameplay is. Its so pick up and play at first and then if you want to do the more advanced stuff you can if you don't don't. It just works.
I played a number of the missions with 2 totally different builds and hot damn it was awesome. Lots of upcoming stuff it sounds like as well.
Rated it a Buy
Absolutely fantastic mix of gameplay styles that I wasn't expecting and a character builders dream. Lots of ways you could go about things with the card system.
Love how simple the gameplay is. Its so pick up and play at first and then if you want to do the more advanced stuff you can if you don't don't. It just works.
I played a number of the missions with 2 totally different builds and hot damn it was awesome. Lots of upcoming stuff it sounds like as well.
bobnowhere
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Into the Darkness/Who Killed the World! A bit of Fury Road in there.
The composer did Ancient Space as well. Even though I didn't buy the Collector's Edition, I got the soundtrack, maybe as I pre-ordered?
People who pre-ordered before the delay got bumped up for free I think.
Shake Appeal
Member
Okay, this game is a hell of a lot of fun. I may need to kick the difficulty up, though, because I am tearing the second Warren scenario apart.
Shake Appeal
Member
Also, it would be a really superb multiplayer game. Make a bunch of maps (symmetrical and asymmetrical), make it 1v1 or factional. Give people a budget to spend on units, cards, weapons and items. Have at it.
More_Badass
Member
Well, I had been on the fence, but your review sold me on this. Can't wait to dive in
I need this game asynchronous on my phone.
It's sold roughly 10k copies according to Steam Spy which isn't great. I'd love for the game to play up so they can start porting/improving/continuing it as a series.
Shake Appeal
Member
Yes. Play-by-mail Hard West would be great. I think the relative simplicity/speed of it would make it a really fun versus game, especially since it's largely about movement and flanking.
Shake Appeal
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Patch released:
BlackBuzzard
Banned
So is this like Xcom style combat?
More_Badass
Member
Similar in that it's turn-based, you're taking cover, etc.
Different in that there's no overwatch and you die in a few shots, so success relies on heavily on positioning and flanking. Plus there are cool abilities, many supernatural, like ricocheting shots, scoring extra damage on enemies if they're in the shade, turning invisible in darkness, and so on
It's more chess game than XCOM ever was. You need to move around, rather than sticking to single spots and setting up overwatch crossfires
I mean, it was a kickstarter game, funded $94k asking $70k, funded by 4300 backers, so those 6k copies were probably pretty profitable for them, Or maybe my KS math is bad. Seems like it's done ok for them, obviously could do better and it needs word of mouth.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Ok might check it out. Thanks for the info ^^
bigdaddygamebot
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Saying it's a western X-Com is generous (and zany)
With that said, it's a really...really great game with fantastic music.
With that said, it's a really...really great game with fantastic music.
MickeyKnox
Member
Backed this and I'm very happy with how it turned out, could definitely use some more work to iron out AI behavior and tweak a few elements, but still a rad fucking game.
Also the soundtrack is killer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6byvUeltHu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE9efOO7Ask
Also the soundtrack is killer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6byvUeltHu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE9efOO7Ask
I have played three scenarios so far and i have been enjoying this. Third scenario (Undertaker) wasn't as good as first two though, imo (too much clicking in the world map). Music is cool, haunting. That card system is interesting, i would imagine that multiplayer mode, which there is NOT, would be lot of fun with that. Story is interesting and it keeps me going.
Then some cons. Game feels unpolished, i hope they will increase the performance and optimization with upcoming patches. Also more voice overs (by Death) in some of the events what happens in the world map would have been great. With that, it could feel more deeper and meaningful. Now it feels that stuff just happens and you are clicking away. Overall, world map stuff feels quite superficial, partly because of that. But otherwise it's solid game and thanks to the unique setting it stands out from other games.
Then some cons. Game feels unpolished, i hope they will increase the performance and optimization with upcoming patches. Also more voice overs (by Death) in some of the events what happens in the world map would have been great. With that, it could feel more deeper and meaningful. Now it feels that stuff just happens and you are clicking away. Overall, world map stuff feels quite superficial, partly because of that. But otherwise it's solid game and thanks to the unique setting it stands out from other games.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I definitely love the premise and setting.
I just got this last night and I really fucking enjoy it. Very fun tactical combat and I think the style is very nice, It's not necessarily X-com in the sense of having a base to build and going out on free form missions but the combat flow is very similar and there's a good amount of customization on the characters. Only real bug I experienced in my first playthrough is that the menus sometimes lock up for a few seconds. Nothing horrible although it is annoying but it's out of combat anyways.
I would say it's X-com combat mixed with like a very lite RPG system where you make a choice and that can drive very devastating or positive outcomes. I only played on Normal and it seems a little easy but you can bump it up one more which I'm sure will give a good challenge.
Seems like the scenario runs could be reasonably short that it makes a good pick up and play game but I haven't completed one yet (one of my main characters for shreked in Iron Man mode) so we'll see on that one.
Extremely positive first impression though. It's only like $12 on GMG with a code atm too!
I would say it's X-com combat mixed with like a very lite RPG system where you make a choice and that can drive very devastating or positive outcomes. I only played on Normal and it seems a little easy but you can bump it up one more which I'm sure will give a good challenge.
Seems like the scenario runs could be reasonably short that it makes a good pick up and play game but I haven't completed one yet (one of my main characters for shreked in Iron Man mode) so we'll see on that one.
Extremely positive first impression though. It's only like $12 on GMG with a code atm too!