family_guy
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Very few jobs for colorists. Best to stop that behavior early.
Kindergarten Teacher Bans Legos For Boys Citing Gender Equity
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Very few jobs for colorists. Best to stop that behavior early.
As an artist. I wish someone would've told me that earlier.
No, fuck that. I say we just get the girls up on the boys' level in these things instead of bringing the boys down. Even if there are some places where certain privileges would need to be decreased in order to balance things out, kindergarten legos are not that. Instead of this bullshit have the actual competence to come up with solutions that lets the kids to have equal access to said legos. You won't promote gender equality to little impressionable boys by denying them the legos for reasons they are "too young/innocent" to understand while watching the girls play with the said legos. You find ways to teach equality to children from young age. Don't settle for preferential treatment in order to offset some of the gender unbalance. The intention and the end goal here is propably noble but it will not result in the said goal.
UnemployedVillain
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No its not a safe bet and no it wasn't well intentioned. It's a fucking stupid idea on the level of me wondering if she is any smarter than the children she teaches.
Alright, I think we should tone it down... My last post was maybe a bit too snarky. You don't have to respond to this post if you don't want to, I'm sure you'll have lots to respond to that's more on-topic. I used a mild pejorative because, yeah, I had an emotional reaction to your post. I wouldn't consider my language vitriolic, though. Lots of other people are giving those measured reasons, I was just pointing out how arguments like "You guys KNOW I'm right, right?" aren't arguments at all. You've reached a conclusion without constructing an argument first, thus begging the question. It's not a great way to start, especially if you're saying something controversial.
What? Dude, take the derivative of the function. Women are already increasing in advantage in every single level of education, and they're already above men all the way through the graduate level. How does stunting boy's growth in kindergarten improve educational equality in any way?
And the rest of those things have nothing to do with education whatsoever. We should prevent boys from playing with Legos because globally, women don't have control over their bodies? What? Are you just a random word generator?
flatearthpandas
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Where I'm from the plural is definitely Legos. Is there official branded literature on this or is this a cultural thing? Googled it and, well, there's a silly rabbit hole that could be entertaining but it seems like the s plural is safe and actually more widely used (in America at least) and that the company doesn't want the toys referred to as Lego or Legos, for whatever reason.
stufte
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flatearthpandas
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Just got a late edit in but... that's not what that says. They say there is no plural for Lego because that is the company name. The plural for Lego brick is Lego bricks, but they really can't control that people have pulled a Kleenex and Band-Aid with the product.Lego company itself states that the plural of Lego is Lego.
No, just an apparently misguided crusader too naive to wait for things to change on their own over time
You know the type
For the record, we sure are focusing on the kindergarten aspect (I guess because this is the thread we're having the discussion), but I've already said I don't agree with the teacher in this scenario. Don't ban boys from the toy store. I just reject the notion that she was a total nincompoop and didn't have her heart in the right place, etc.
Regardless, "Legos" is just plain wrong. Other people may be uninformed, but you no longer are.
Alright, thanks man. I see where you're coming from now. I'll try to learn from my mistakes here.
Same about the emotional reaction, when I see something that bugs me I want to cut to the core immediately because 1. I know we're all irrational humans and I hate arguing in circles about things other than the core emotional issue, and 2. I'm kind of impatient.
Yeah, from the article she comes off in a bad light for sure. Are we just mad about this one specific person? I was seeing a lot of posts in here claiming women didn't need an educational leg up in general and took offense to it, but I suppose a lot of people are also making the point that the education system isn't always the problem, it's what happens after-- job opportunities, stereotypes, etc.
SolicitorPirate
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flatearthpandas
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Both ways are wrong. And yet, they're called Legos where I'm from and it is a non-issue. Knowing Band-Aid was a brand name since forever never made me start asking for a Band-Aid brand adhesive bandage. Just a piece of curiosity. You'd think the companies would be proud to have their names appropriated into the language. Probably something legal with them not being able to claim responsibility over corruptions.
Anyway, on topic, that teacher is an idiot and the idea that anyone needs to be held back for the sake of progress strikes me as ludicrous, especially so when you're referring to children.
stufte
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I've always seen purple as a gender neutral color, it just happens to go nicely with pink.
psynergylover
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this makes no sense, she bans the boys from playing with Lego's but continues to let the girls color and addition to play with the Legos? these children are playing with what the find interesting, they have no clue what "gender equity" is and don't need to be used for some gender equity experiment.
TwEE-N-Toast
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Lego company itself states that the plural of Lego is Lego.
I like Legoes myself.
In the right ideology.
I rock black and pink Nike shoes all the damn time.
I'm not of the belief boys and girls would 100% be the same if we removed gender roles and conventions from the equation, but colours being divided by gender is a pretty stupid societal norm I'm glad society has been gradually moving away from.
You are my personal hero and I will follow you to the depths of hell and back for this.
stufte
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SolicitorPirate
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From a legal perspective, your brand name being appropriated as a descriptive term is a nightmare scenario, as you lose the trademark for that brand.
In terms of Lego/Legos, Lego is the correct term. Legos is the moral term, as its really funny to watch fans twitch and lose their shit over it.
I wore neon pink all the time in the 90's. What happened?
Damn breast cancer awareness campaigns is what happened!
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Lol @ the avatar edit
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What does this sentence mean?
TwEE-N-Toast
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Opps.. lost an N somewhere
Trojita
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Leithkorias
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Seems like literally no-one agrees with this teacher.
The path to something something is plagued with etc. etc.?
Not everyone who adheres to a beneficial mindset is going to be a genius and represent it perfectly. Doesn't mean we should go after the mindset.
Don't get me wrong-- if we can reach gender equality without handicapping one gender over another, I'll be psyched. It just seems so impossible with so many conservative and advantaged people running things.
DarkHeartedKill
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I'm more concerned that some asshat is denying kindergarten boys the ability to play with LEGO bricks to try and get more girls to play with it, rather than how someone chooses to pluralize or spell LEGO.
She could always get the girls Mega Blocks...
She could always get the girls Mega Blocks...
That's a joke, please don't kill me!
Give it time.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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Well, most people are sane. I also think this teacher has spent too much time reading salon.com and attending public university classes.
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You agree with her ideology that it's good to hold one group of children back if it's in the name of pursuing equality?
Are you cool with that then? Gender inequality always being a thing because it's too late/hard/infeasible to fix it? Or because it requires marginalization of a certain dominant group of people, even if their hearts are in the right place or simply don't know better?
TwEE-N-Toast
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Nah, the teacher is acting like an out of touch ideologue who forgets she's dealing with flesh and blood humans.
Dude Abides
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The school shouldn't have let her squander its resources on ridiculously overpriced legos.
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