Captain America: Civil War Trailer #1 Debut

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Yea, that's a little disappointing. Maybe it's shown that way only in the trailer? We'll see.

There's going to be a lot more to it than just that. Otherwise, the majority of the other heroes would't have any reason to get involved and it'd just be Stark and Rhodey vs. Rodgers, Falcon, and Barnes
 
Story seems to be more about Cap going rogue to protect his best bud Bucky with the entire Superhero Registration Act type stuff, or whatever their equivalent is, being a secondary thing that will be the ultimate reasoning for the dramatic confrontation between both sides. So no one is the bad guy per se, but there are clear sides drawn out because of it. But the main focus is about Bucky and his ultimate fate.

Movie probably starts with something about the public being afraid of what supers are doing and capable of after the Ultron fiasco. Gov responds with some measures to limit and control what they can and cannot do and so on. Cap isn't comfortable with it due to past events like Winter Soldier fiasco and is butting heads with the higher ups.

Meanwhile Tony makes an about face to make up for his clear failings in AoU and supports it outright. But meanwhile Cap is working on the DL to find and rehabilitate Bucky, but learns that due to the greater events the Gov(s) have decided to make Bucky KoS for his past transgressions and Cap chooses to protect his friend rather than follow orders, because it's the true "Just" thing to do rather than let a man die without trial or anything. Given all the other events going on, this doesn't fly, especially with everything Bucky has done. So the Gov isn't going to just let it slide and they need to make an example out of those who don't fall in line, even if it's Captain America. Queue Warmachine, Ironman and who ever else they have setting out to put Cap and Bucky down.

And Black Panther is there to just whoop on people and be unrealistically chill and badass for hazy reasons.
 
It seems like GAF loves this Black panther dude, but i think he is a rather obscure super hero?
I think that's specifically why people are hyped. He's a cool character who is lesser known, so the fact he's in the movie, let alone getting his own full movie, is exciting. The fact Marvel has proven they aren't scared of putting "lesser" heroes out there in a major way (Ant-man, Guardians of the Galaxy) and making them huge and popular is cool.
 
I think that's specifically why people are hyped. He's a cool character who is lesser known, so the fact he's in the movie, let alone getting his own full movie, is exciting. The fact Marvel has proven they aren't scared of putting "lesser" heroes out there in a major way (Ant-man, Guardians of the Galaxy) and making them huge and popular is cool.

Exactly. The fact that Fox can't seem to move past Wolverine and friends to introduce the more interesting X-Men characters has me salty.

But then I see MARVEL luring me in with promises of Black Panther, Doctor Strange, And Captain Marvel. Not to mention Ant-Man, and the Guardians of the Galaxy - both films people said never would have worked due to character popularity.
 
I hope there is a good link to Agents of SHIELD too, because I'm curious how this will affect the inHumans.

It will likely be like all of the other movies in that it won't acknowledge the show at all. That being said, the writers of the show have assuredly seen the script and will find a way to link the show into the plot from their side. Like how for Ultron they found the location of Strucker's base and got the carrier ready.
 
Russos still got it

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I think it's more balanced than the comics in a very good way. I think Tony recognizes that he is largely to blame for Ultron's actions which is why he is out there front and center, and actually enforcing the Accords to stop Cap and bring him in.

Steve only comes off as the badguy if you completely ignore his compassion. Both characters are coming at this from the right angle, I can't say either of them are particularly wrong but that's why we get to enjoy them butting heads repeatedly, until T'Challa uncovers what's really going on and gets them to figure their shit out and join up to stop Zemo.

True about the first paragraph. It does work pretty well. But we'll have to see about the Bucky-Cap buisness. Protecting his buddy is cool, but I really hope it's bigger than that.
 
How is it possible some guy in Africa can develop a super soldier serum?
It seems like GAF loves this Black panther dude, but i think he is a rather obscure super hero?

How is it possible some guy in America can develop a super soldier serum?

What does geography matter? He's also not "some guy"
 
Cant pinpoint why but so far in the brief glimpses I do not like the BP costume.

Looks iffy in daytime scenes but baller as fuck in that tunnel shot

How is it possible some guy in America can develop a super soldier serum?

What does geography matter? He's also not "some guy"

Lol yeah may not have been his intent but we are unfortunately going to start seeing the racist arguments against the Black Panther character now that this trailer has hit the public. There's gonna be a lot of misguided " African super-city is just so unrealistic!"
 
The SSS is the western version of the heartshaped fruit an herb Wakanda has had for centuries.

Why can't a guy in Africa develop?

Wakanda is the most advanced nation on marvel earth.

dont let dumb shit like that even derail for one post, shits nothin but bait.

How does a superhero have superpowers? Get real
 
People keep posting that Cap and Bucky "beatdown" against Iron Man, but honestly it just comes across as so silly to me. These are two guys punching a metal suit with their bare fists, up against a guy who could probably take them down with a single blast to the face. In a real fight, do you have any idea how much damage you do to your knuckles just punching another normal human being? Now times that damage by 100 when you're punching a dude in an iron suit. It's like two dudes punching a concrete wall over and over again.

I think too much about these things, I guess is what I'm saying.
 
How is it possible some guy in Africa can develop a super soldier serum?
It seems like GAF loves this Black panther dude, but i think he is a rather obscure super hero?

Panther's ability comes from an herb that grows natively in wakanda. Poisonous to most people, but to some (like the royal family) it grants enhanced strength, speed, senses, etc.

That aside, Wakanda is extremely technologically advanced- probably the most advanced place on marvel earth, and panther is in the same ballpark as Reed Richards or Tony Stark in terms of intellect.

He's not obscure if you've been reading marvel comics- he's been around since 1966 and has routinely been a flagship member of the avengers and supporting character in fantastic four, along with his own series. He's taken a major role in most current crossovers like Time Runs Out and Secret Wars which are ongoing and some of marvel's highest selling series ever.

He hasn't had his own movie which is probably why you don't know him, but marvel is fixing that.
 
How is it possible some guy in Africa can develop a super soldier serum?
It seems like GAF loves this Black panther dude, but i think he is a rather obscure super hero?

Yeah, this. I was under the impression Africa wans't tecogocinally advanced as America? Of all the things in the Marvel movie universes, this by far seems the most unrealistic. Did America maybe give him the super serum?
 
People keep posting that Cap and Bucky "beatdown" against Iron Man, but honestly it just comes across as so silly to me. These are two guys punching a metal suit with their bare fists, up against a guy who could probably take them down with a single blast to the face. In a real fight, do you have any idea how much damage you do to your knuckles just fighting another human being? Now times that damage by 100 when you're punching a dude in a dude in an iron suit? It's like two dudes punching a concrete wall over and over again.

I think too much about these things, I guess is what I'm saying.

Cap and Bucky are both superhumans, not regular people. Cap runs through walls without breaking stride and Bucky handily tears cars open with one hand.
 
Well now I really understand why this is a captain America movie.

Black panther looks great

Definitely rooting for cap and Bucky in this one
 
I'm hoping some of these posts about Black Panther are satire...
Otherwise, please google Wakanda @_@

Edit: Seems some are. Oh god, it's going to blend for the next while...
 
How is it possible some guy in Africa can develop a super soldier serum?
It seems like GAF loves this Black panther dude, but i think he is a rather obscure super hero?

I think before Iron Man, almost every character in the MCU today were rather obscure super heroes.
 
Can somebody gif the scene where Tony and Rhodey are looking to the right? I don't know but the colors or something about that scene pleases me.

Also need one of Bucky trying to rip out the arc reactor.
 
I think before Iron Man, almost every character in the MCU today were rather obscure super heroes.

Nah. Cap is iconic. been around since 1941 and most people could identify him on sight even if his sales weren't breaking records.

like superman and wolverine, Cap's archetype as the patriotic superhero wrapped in the flag and fighting for american ideals has been ripped off by every other comics company several times, and shows up fairly frequently in other media.

Bucky isn't black, and Falcon flies away from the cops.

panther appears to be running from what looks like a police car with cap behind him. curious- maybe this is a point where he switches sides?
 
Cant pinpoint why but so far in the brief glimpses I do not like the BP costume.

It's not meant to look great in daytime shots, but it gets the job done. That tunnel chase though - it looks just fine.

Also it needs a cape.

People keep posting that Cap and Bucky "beatdown" against Iron Man, but honestly it just comes across as so silly to me. These are two guys punching a metal suit with their bare fists, up against a guy who could probably take them down with a single blast to the face. In a real fight, do you have any idea how much damage you do to your knuckles just punching another normal human being? Now times that damage by 100 when you're punching a dude in a dude in an iron suit? It's like two dudes punching a concrete wall over and over again.

I think too much about these things, I guess is what I'm saying.

The Winter Soldier has an arm built of similar material as Cap's shield and both of those are on par with if not stronger than Iron Man's armor.

Both of them have super soldier serums that make them recover from injuries at an increased capacity, as well as hit harder.

They aren't a couple of teenagers hitting a brick wall. Did you see the fight in the first Avengers film when Thor fought Stark?

panther appears to be running from what looks like a police car with cap behind him. curious- maybe this is a point where he switches sides?

As if Panther ever has any side other than his own.
 
How is it possible some guy in Africa can develop a super soldier serum?
It seems like GAF loves this Black panther dude, but i think he is a rather obscure super hero?

Yeah, this. I was under the impression Africa wans't tecogocinally advanced as America? Of all the things in the Marvel movie universes, this by far seems the most unrealistic. Did America maybe give him the super serum?

So it's begun...
 
The Winter Soldier has an arm built of similar material as Cap's shield and both of those are on par with if not stronger than Iron Man's armor.

Both of them have super soldier serums that make them recover from injuries at an increased capacity, as well as hit harder.

They aren't a couple of teenagers hitting a brick wall. Did you see the fight in the first Avengers film when Thor fought Stark?

Yeah, but dude...the difference there is that Thor is a God, who's like, as strong as the Hulk if not stronger!

I do get your points though. I'll have to keep all that in mind when seeing the finished film.
 
Yeah, this. I was under the impression Africa wans't tecogocinally advanced as America? Of all the things in the Marvel movie universes, this by far seems the most unrealistic. Did America maybe give him the super serum?

No. Wakanda is a hermit nation that hasn't allowed outsiders within its borders since forever. They have the most valuable and versatile mineral on Earth and are completely cut off from the rest of the world, including surrounding African countries. No one messes with Wakanda because Wakanda had a massive developmental head start compared to Western powers and is therefore the most technologically advanced society on the planet.
 
panther appears to be running from what looks like a police car with cap behind him. curious- maybe this is a point where he switches sides?

No I think in this scene, Panther is chasing Bucky. Cap is chasing Panther. The cops are following and wondering wtf they're supposed to do in the off-chance they actually catch up to these freaks.
 
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