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How much of the current SJW hysteria depends on misconceptions that could be dispelled by talking to two to five other people who live outside of whatever echo chamber it depends on?
Play-Asia says SJWs to blame for DOAX3 not coming west
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How much of the current SJW hysteria depends on misconceptions that could be dispelled by talking to two to five other people who live outside of whatever echo chamber it depends on?
kamineko
Does his best thinking in the flying car
I consider myself a progressive, left-leaning dude. I give money to FF. Does anybody actually give a shit about DOA? It's always been honest about what it is, and there's something respectable about that. Aside from the occasional, weirdly intense overreaction, I don't think anyone really expects DOA to suddenly become an embodiment of progressive values. It has a niche, everybody knows what it is & what it has been for years, and it's just pretty whatever by now. Who cares?
That being so, I'm legit shocked that people are buying into this transparently manufactured "rebellion." Then again, I guess if you feel starved for validation 24/7, maybe you are willing to ride along with this kind of thinly-veiled bullshit.
I mean, I can't stand it when some company disingenuously pretends to cater to my values for sales. It's insulting, really.
I guess PA did the math and figured they'd gain way more than they'd lose, customer-wise. It's their prerogative as a business. Seems like a pretty short-sighted move to me, but who knows. I wouldn't have guessed the target market would have jumped so hard on it, so I guess even after all these years I can't predict the future.
That being so, I'm legit shocked that people are buying into this transparently manufactured "rebellion." Then again, I guess if you feel starved for validation 24/7, maybe you are willing to ride along with this kind of thinly-veiled bullshit.
I mean, I can't stand it when some company disingenuously pretends to cater to my values for sales. It's insulting, really.
I guess PA did the math and figured they'd gain way more than they'd lose, customer-wise. It's their prerogative as a business. Seems like a pretty short-sighted move to me, but who knows. I wouldn't have guessed the target market would have jumped so hard on it, so I guess even after all these years I can't predict the future.
freeofgreed
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This ignores the fact that TTT2 and SCV were only released once, while DOA5 was re released 4 times and had a F2P verison.
Ragnorok64
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That too.
What for?
All according to Yakiniku.
NoblesseOblige
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The only idiotic and irrelevant thing is you feeling the need to share that you're spending your money on something due to a non-existing boycott. Hopefully you'll at least order it from some place that isn't about ripping you off. Otherwise you're willingly becoming a tool for play-asia's marketing that anyone with an iota of sense can see through.
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Same here.
Basketball
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If you think the landscape hasn't already changed you're wrong
AAA games like DAI , Fallout, Mortal Kombat , Tomb Raider and more to come
All these games had those "problematic" elements people complained about in their past games and Boom none of them are in the games now . It's over watch the next GTA not have protistutes or strip clubs
AAA games like DAI , Fallout, Mortal Kombat , Tomb Raider and more to come
All these games had those "problematic" elements people complained about in their past games and Boom none of them are in the games now . It's over watch the next GTA not have protistutes or strip clubs
mckmas8808
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Demoskinos
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Just because it doesn't have a huge tournament scene doesn't mean its not a pretty big franchise. I mean for christ sakes they made a movie based on the franchise.
Yoshi
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Is it really banned in GAF, i.e. we cannot write about it? In this case, sorry for having brought it up earlier in other threads as an example of a particularly dumb game wrt sexualisation I had to review. If it is banned, what is the reason for this?
bigwinnerx
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Tragic, really. Those prostitutes were the only reason to play GTA.
The goalposts you are moving around aren't even worth the metal they're made of.
What did they remove from Fallout? Or Dragon Age?
Heck, what did they remove from MK? All their women having the same mannish character model base?
Ambition
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?? Why
freeofgreed
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Ah yes the movie that only made $7.5 million dollars out of a $21 million dollar budget. Tottally mainstream. Also just because it has a movie based off of it doesn't mean squat. Hollywood will make movie based off of anything these days.
Vigilant Walrus
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This right here is the biggest reason you have a defense force for everything that receives even a small amount of negativity or criticism.
More and more, we see cowardly companies running away scared from any sight of negativity. And who does that hurt? Everyone.
Next time a thread pops up about sexual depiction or violent depiction, this is going to add to the "slippery slope" scenario people, who now, once again, have another one for the box, of entertainment which was not released western-side due to debates.
I could imagine they saw all the endless talks about MGS5 and the depiction of Quiet, and decided "fuck it, let's not deal with this shit".
Don't blame SJWs for this. How are they at fault? They don't have any authority. The company does. Our culture needs to accomedate more for speaking up against issues, and having a dialogue that leads to some mutual beneficiary compromise, instead of companies avoiding the issue all together by foreholding it.
It's been my understanding that child porn is still legal in japan as long as it is animated, so this might also be a cultural approach to avoid speaking about something we should speak up.
More and more, we see cowardly companies running away scared from any sight of negativity. And who does that hurt? Everyone.
Next time a thread pops up about sexual depiction or violent depiction, this is going to add to the "slippery slope" scenario people, who now, once again, have another one for the box, of entertainment which was not released western-side due to debates.
I could imagine they saw all the endless talks about MGS5 and the depiction of Quiet, and decided "fuck it, let's not deal with this shit".
Don't blame SJWs for this. How are they at fault? They don't have any authority. The company does. Our culture needs to accomedate more for speaking up against issues, and having a dialogue that leads to some mutual beneficiary compromise, instead of companies avoiding the issue all together by foreholding it.
It's been my understanding that child porn is still legal in japan as long as it is animated, so this might also be a cultural approach to avoid speaking about something we should speak up.
Crash Station
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You can refer to it by name and I imagine light discussion on it is allowed when in reference to something else. You're just not allowed to make an OT about it or discuss the content of the game.
I think the reason it was banned was a dick-looking creature being eaten or something.
Didn't the movie bomb?
They've made like nearly every modestly popular fighting game into a movie. Even King of Fighters got one.
lmao. Yeah that'll show them!
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Ahahahah! Yeah, I'm sure GTA will become an "E" rated game because of those damn SJWs! I never realized how outraged some people were over representation issues discussions.
I never said it's not a "big" (whatever that means) franchise. I said it's not mainstream.
And speaking of movies based on games:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_video_games
-Alone in the Dark
-Bloodrayne
-Postal
-Red Faction
-Heavenly Sword
etc.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The question is how can you really be sure that they are mad and angry? Maybe they are just speaking their minds and then going on with their day.
How come this game isnt listed as being banned somewhere, instead of having to dig up some guys post? How would I know Im not supposed to talk about it?
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
it's 2015.
Less copies sell, but the people who buy them buy $100 costume DLC packs.
The ninjas are free, the swimsuits are not
Rran
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Thank you hah
Now time to read the rest of this thread to see what all the drama is about lol
NoblesseOblige
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I doubt very much that you are going to get banned the first time for talking about a game barred from discussion. Every time I see such a title brought up, someone points out it's a no-no, and the conversation around the title ends. Now if you're told it's banned, and you go on to talk about it again afterwards, then you'd probably be open to punishment.
Which in turn ignores the fact that the reason it got all of those versions was because it was successful, and in particular was successfully selling DLC and still is.
If you add in the F2P version that's 5 million players who've gotten into DoA5. It was also on PS+ twice I believe. It has found a large audience out there.
notworksafe
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have secret rules that no one is told about, ban people for breaking them: the neogaf way
The Demoness Sarkeesian stole our frame rates
That seems a little ridiculous, if some rando just told me that I wasnt allowed to talk about a game I would just assume theyre being a lying shithead trying to shut me up.
Basketball
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There is no sexual content in fallout 4, no funny male/woman/ghoul dancers no fisting robos . Black Widow perk is useless .
MK come on just look at the costume designs and tell me they are not more tame . but all the male costumes of all the legacy characters are mostly the same.
DAI with all the blocky armor sets and even jokes about certain armor sets in the past.
The lead writer of Tomb Raider critised Lara shorts in the past games and devs team
But whatever anyway who cares about these small things , just smile and play
NoblesseOblige
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Okay? You know you could always contact the mods and ask if that were the case, right? Can't believe how much you're struggling with this.
freeofgreed
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Says who? Fighting games always get newer versions for balance reasons, not necessarily because past versions were successful. Also there's the possibility that the previous versions weren't all that successful which is why they had to keep porting it.
If a game is banned here, you can just assume it's because of the depiction of children in sexual situations. The only one banned for a different reason is Hatred.
Silver Arrows
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You seem to, considering you brought them up.
The way they're handling it is pretty funny, the overreaction backfired and is helping them instead. I don't know why the game is not being released (does anyone? I see a lot of speculation here, nothing more), but political correctness is a good guess.
Also, some people have suggested they removed slavery in FO4 for similar reasons, but I'm not sure if it's 100% absent. I've yet to see everything in FO4, but I've haven't seen any kind of prostitution or references to it either.
Not sure what he's talking about specifically, but one thing that was how Fallout 1 and 2 allowed the player to kill children. That was removed by Bethesda in FO3 and other games since.
Also, some people have suggested they removed slavery in FO4 for similar reasons, but I'm not sure if it's 100% absent. I've yet to see everything in FO4, but I've haven't seen any kind of prostitution or references to it either.
FunkyDealer
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48 pages in under a day. All PR is good PR.
Nobody has been banned for talking about banned games.
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Suzushiiro
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I think the issue most fans have with criticism of these sorts of games is that it tends to quickly slide from "I don't like this," which is fine, to "I don't like this, therefore it shouldn't exist," which is much less okay, or even to "I don't like this, and anyone who does is a bad person," which is absolutely not okay.
If someone thinks games like this are gross, that's fine. If they think the game shouldn't exist at all, that's over the line, unless they have legit evidence that the existence of games like this causes actual harm to people (and they probably don't.) If they declare that anyone who *does* like it is a pervert, misogynist, pedophile, or all of the above, that's *way* over the fucking line. Criticism is fine, being an asshole to the people who like what you're criticizing is not.
I do think that fans of otaku games do tend to have a bit of a martyr complex and are oversensitive to criticism of them that doesn't cross that line, but considering how much shit is thrown at them that does, it's somewhat understandable.
durrrrrrrrrr
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No one is going to contest PA overcharges. However their shipping is better than YA. Amiami is the best but if you cancel preorders its pretty much the end of your account.
Of course going after then for the tweets is okay but PA's pricing is almost like their thing. All these lol pay more lol posts just show how little people know about import sites
freeofgreed
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What overreaction? Please link me. Also it's banned because Koei are pussies that is the only reason. They said so themselves.
Silver Arrows
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But that means that my belief that GAF is a liberal hug box isn't true! /s
Crash Station
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Yeah, it really should be in the TOS that certain games are forbidden from being discussed.
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