Captain America: Civil War Trailer #1 Debut

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He definitely was.
He's not listed in the credits though.
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Evans got dat top billing.

Samuel won't be in this.

Rule of 3.
 
Maybe this has been addressed already but...

where do some people get the feeling that Cap is on the wrong side here? Just because he tries to save Bucky? Aren't they coming at Bucky with the intent to kill? How is that fair?

is this an American thing?

I mean, there is a very reasonable argument that superhuman registration makes sense.

And not many people know that Bucky wasn't really responsible for what he did under Hydra's control. At the very least, it makes sense to want him captured and investigated.

But, lets see how the movie actually plays out.
 
The Avengers have a long history of jobbing to Spider-Man in the comics. Honestly, the only ones he should be able to wipe the floor with are Hawkeye, Black Widow, and possibly Captain America. Nearly everyone else should be able to take him down.



I think Black Panther surpasses Cap & Bucky in almost every category (strength, speed, skill, tactics, etc) by a little bit. T'Challa could comfortably win one on one. Cap & Bucky together could probably take him down, but T'Challa's a tactical beast.

Do you know who Spider Man is? He is a one man team wrecker.

Black Panther use to be about equal to cap and bucky but he got a massive powerup and would paste them now.

Carol ain't shit.
Kaep doing the Lord's work
 
I mean, there is a very reasonable argument that superhuman registration makes sense.

And not many people know that Bucky wasn't really responsible for what he did under Hydra's control. At the very least, it makes sense to want him captured and investigated.

But, lets see how the movie actually plays out.

I agree with all of this but Cap says to Bucky "and they're not planning to take you alive". Unless that's just some throwaway line...
 
I don't get the whole "signing with Marvel means you can't do anything else" idea. All of the Marvel heroes do other movies between the MCU films. Downey Jr's got stuff like the Sherlock Holmes movies and The Judge, Hemsworth did Rush and Vacation and Snow White, Evans did Snowpiercer and Before We Go, and Johansson did Lucy and Hitchcock and a bunch of other stuff.

Sure, they might have to turn down a movie because Marvel's got them contracted to shoot at a certain time, but that would happen when signing for any movie.
 
I don't get the whole "signing with Marvel means you can't do anything else" idea. All of the Marvel heroes do other movies between the MCU films. Downey Jr's got stuff like the Sherlock Holmes movies and The Judge, Hemsworth did Rush and Vacation and Snow White, Evans did Snowpiercer and Before We Go, and Johansson did Lucy and Hitchcock and a bunch of other stuff.

Sure, they might have to turn down a movie because Marvel's got them contracted to shoot at a certain time, but that would happen when signing for any movie.

The contracts would stipulate what project basically has "dibs." This can be problematic because an actor could get an offer for a role, give a tentative yes, but be forced to turn it down if Marvel's filming schedule changes.. which we've seen can happen quite easily.

It's why actors are typically hesitant to sign big multi-film contracts when they're already well known. Because they could potentially be forced to pass on a project that's better or that they really really want to do, due to signing them.
 
...wait is there a comic where Spider-Man "beats" Hulk ?

Not really, but there's a horrible comic after Civil War when spidey went black suit and fought the Rhino. He was recalling a time where he was with Cap and then sees Cap beat the shit out of a rampaging Savage strength-level Hulk. At some point Cap was just using his bare fists.
 
The contracts would stipulate what project basically has "dibs." This can be problematic because an actor could get an offer for a role, give a tentative yes, but be forced to turn it down if Marvel's filming schedule changes.. which we've seen can happen quite easily.

It's why actors are typically hesitant to sign big multi-film contracts when they're already well known. Because they could potentially be forced to pass on a project that's better or that they really really want to do, due to signing them.

That's a negative to any multi-picture deal, certainly. I've just seen the MCU singled out as if it does something differently. In fact, though you say Marvel moves their schedule around, that's not really true. It does happen, but they hold much tighter to their proposed schedule than pretty much any other studio out there.

Then again, there are benefits to a multi-picture deal...specifically that it's guaranteed work and exposure...and when the exposure is as big as each of the MCU movies have been, that's a damn good thing.
 
Not really, but there's a horrible comic after Civil War when spidey went black suit and fought the Rhino. He was recalling a time where he was with Cap and then sees Cap beat the shit out of a rampaging Savage strength-level Hulk. At some point Cap was just using his bare fists.

Rhino been catching asswhoppings for years

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That's a negative to any multi-picture deal, certainly. I've just seen the MCU singled out as if it does something differently. In fact, though you say Marvel moves their schedule around, that's not really true. It does happen, but they hold much tighter to their proposed schedule than pretty much any other studio out there.

Then again, there are benefits to a multi-picture deal...specifically that it's guaranteed work and exposure...and when the exposure is as big as each of the MCU movies have been, that's a damn good thing.

It's definitely the drawback to any multi-picture deal. However most multi-picture deals aren't as long as Marvel's have been (3 is probably the most common but Marvel does 6 or more now for the ability to have cross-pollination), which is why Marvel's deals are considered a bit more negative.

The trade off being a lot of multi-picture deals don't actually see full fruition (see the majority of the Young Adult book-to-movie conversions) while Marvel's are pretty much a guarantee at this point. So actors really have to measure the work/exposure/desire against their ability to do other projects that may be more critically well received or just plain more in line with what they want to do.

But you're right, and I stated it previously, that the exposure is a big plus. Typically though, less known actors are more inclined to sign for multi-picture deals than established ones.
 
Samuel won't be in this.

Rule of 3.

Contradicts the rule of SLJ;
"Samuel L Jackson is in everything."

Maaaan, Black Panther looks hella badass in this shot. It's like, yoooo. How can this suit look so good and be in motion at the same time. Shit. Wish I could run as badass as that in a suit.

I'm curious as to how they did this shot, because Cap isn't exactly looking like he's holding back.
 
He'll likely be in there for about 5 minutes. It's not unheard of to keep people of of the credits for a surprise, but I think people are overstating his role in the film.

Yup, IIRC there were two versions of the script, one with and the other without Spider-Man, but the Russos said they could move forward with the one without as long as the Sony deal didn't go through. If the Sony deal came through while filming, they could switch over fairly easy. You can't do that if Spider-Man / Peter Parker is a big part of your movie.
 
Spidey will be a short cameo. No reason to put him in those credits.

He'll likely be in there for about 5 minutes. It's not unheard of to keep people of of the credits for a surprise, but I think people are overstating his role in the film.

Oh, I thought it was confirmed that he would be in the movie? Everyone keeps talking about his role like it will play a big part in the civil war
 
I'm curious as to how they did this shot, because Cap isn't exactly looking like he's holding back.

Maybe they had Chris Evans chasing an actual sprinter stunt double in the BP suit? I don't know if Chadwick Boseman has done any track stuff, but whoever's in that gif can fucking move.
 
How strong is Black Panther compared to Cap? Would a fight between them be as raw as the first fight between Cap and Bucky in TWS?
In the comics I always thought power-wise they were all roughly the same, but BP has far superior intellect (he's one of the smartest people on the planet) and a bunch of gadgets.
 
Spidey will be a short cameo. No reason to put him in those credits.

the actor was in germany leipzig (2-3 weeks of shooting i think), so he should be in the action/fight scene that takes place on the airport.

which raises some questions: what the hell is spidey doing in germany? we know from the trailer that the airport scene still takes place in germany, so maybe peter is on a schooltrip and joins the fight by accident?
 
the actor was in germany leipzig (2-3 weeks of shooting i think), so he should be in the action/fight scene that takes place on the airport.

which raises some questions: what the hell is spidey doing in germany? we know from the trailer that the airport scene still takes place in germany, so maybe peter is on a schooltrip and joins the fight by accident?

Stark
recruits him and flies with him to germany.
 
that doesnt make sense. peter is what, 15-16 in this film? why would tony bring a fucking kid with him?

Having a smart ass kid around is handy, Tony found out in Iron Man 3.

Maybe they had Chris Evans chasing an actual sprinter stunt double in the BP suit? I don't know if Chadwick Boseman has done any track stuff, but whoever's in that gif can fucking move.

Now I want to see Usain Bolt vs Captain America in a 100m dash.
 
He has borderline superhuman endurance feats in the liveaction TV adaptation, and in the comics he is even stronger and pretty much red Batman in terms of physicality and martial skill.

batman is a regular human being, so is DD , but his senses allow him to do things without hesitation, he's not guessing when he's dodging things we can't see he feels the stuff coming on the air. He has zero blind spots due to his 360 senses being greatly enhanced and no vision to process. Other than that he is just a olympic level athlete with no fear.
 
Really like this:
Joe Russo: "When people leave the theatre, they’re going to be arguing about who was right in the movie, whether it was Tony, or whether it was Cap.

On Black Panther:
Joe Russo: "It’s a combination of a practical costume and VFX. It’s a vibranium weave, a mesh, almost like a chainmail. Luminescence is something we have to do in post. He’s there for a very different reason which brings him into conflict with Cap and his team. His motivations are not their motivations."

On Baron Zemo:
Joe Russo: "Zemo in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is not Zemo from the comics, and what’s interesting and surprising is that we don’t always honour the mythology from the books. One, because it’s predictable and two, it’s not servicing the story in the way we want. So, if Zemo were in this movie, I think people should expect that it’s going to be something fresh and exciting."

Source: ComicBookMovie
 
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