I'm just saying using a commercially ignored film and a highly divisive film as evidence people have no issue not seeing an actors face is questionable.
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I'm just saying using a commercially ignored film and a highly divisive film as evidence people have no issue not seeing an actors face is questionable.
Broken Joystick
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I'm probably putting more thought into this than anyone intended, but he probably left Betty because he couldn't stay stable. Anytime they were in danger and she would get hurt, he'd Hulk out and cause chaos and destruction. Literally a destructive relationship. Plus, her father doesn't exactly like him, and now he's being introduced once again into the film, I think it's just easier from everyone's perspective that Banner finds love with someone who works and knows how to calm him.
or Liv Tyler doesn't want to do Marvel films
or MCU writers haven't found a good enough reason to use her again.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Don't forget about Jane Foster. I know Natalie Portman is completly over doing these films, if she could have literally phoned in her Thor: Dark World performance, she would have. Maybe the same is true of Paltrow?
They've made some effort to explain why they're not there...but I suspect that is to cover up them not wanting to be involved. There was room for Pepper in Age of Ultron, especially during the party scene.
I think they're just glossing over everything they can with the Hulk film. I suspect if they ever brought Betty back, they would recast.
Broken Joystick
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As far as I know, Paltrow has no problem with appearing, but she just wasn't called up for AoU. I think she jokingly said she was worried she might be replaced with a younger actress.
Jane Foster they already explained in Age of Ultron didn't they.
It would have been so cool, if Pepper took over the mantle for Tony Stark, when Robert Downey don't wanna do the role anymore, then she could take over, and we would have our female Iron Man.
It is literally a Betty and Veronica conundrum.
I don't think there's a sacred bond that Bruce has to share really, throughout the movie he gives off the impression that he's already been through one rough patch in an intimate relationship. You don't need to mention Betty to know that he's implying from experience that a relationship with him won't work out. Then Widow comes along and gives him the opportunity to try again but he realizes in the end that nothing is going to change.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
That's good to hear, shame they didn't use her. I liked her and RDJ bouncing off each other. She did 4 films though, definitely put in her work.
I can't even blame Portman from walking away after Dark World. Her character's importance in that movie is contrived that you can tell they just needed some way for her to be there to fill an obligation. The material was just insulting for someone of her acting ability, even if it was a fun comic movie she did for a paycheck.
CaviarMeths
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I thought Pepper being absent from Age of Ultron was more just a conscious decision due to her having a few scenes in the first movie. Didn't want Tony's SO getting the screen time again.
It is kind of weird how Selvig keeps showing up in these movies, but not Jane Foster though. Isn't she implied to be a leader in her field in the first Thor movie?
It is kind of weird how Selvig keeps showing up in these movies, but not Jane Foster though. Isn't she implied to be a leader in her field in the first Thor movie?
Selvig is implied to be on a level above her.
SomedayTheFire
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O shit, I thought it was confirmed!
No, not at all. Hulk is not in this one too. He'll appear in Thor: Ragnarok.
SomedayTheFire
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SomedayTheFire
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There was a character called Ragnarok in Civil War. There is also an event called Ragnarok in Thor's stories. They're separate things.
Manmademan
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Bingo.
No, no he isn't.
Triggerhappytel
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They're trying to punish someone for crimes he committed when he wasn't in control of his own free will. And from the look of the trailer, they're preparing to execute him without a trial.
Not saying Cap is in the right, but Tony shouldn't be sanctioning this either.
Didn't Bucky kill Howard?
Triggerhappytel
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Sure, but the point stands - he did not do that of his own free will. He was clearly programmed and controlled by Hydra. He just deserves a fair trial is all, not a heavy handed attempt by SHIELD to wipe him out.
I remain eternally disappointed about Pepper in Iron Man 3. 'Oh look, she gets to be in one of the suits! Oh... just temporary. Oh look, she has crazy powers! Oh, she's 'cured'...'. I feel like by ignoring the best chances they had to do something with Pepper there, they've essentially decided nothing with ever happen with her.
Same with Jane Foster in Thor 2, and the Aether. Great opportunity to give her some permanent powers. But, again, she gets nothing.
LegendofDragoonLives
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I hope he breaks a few bones personally.. beat that ass down. Though I suspect the end will be
Cap dying and Bucky replacing him.
Darth has no chill ^^
Coulson is running SHIELD, I think this is the US government and/or the UN trying to kill him.
Manmademan
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Given that portman and her character was easily the worst part of both Thor films, I'm perfectly fine with never revisiting that character again, ever.
Thor: Ragnarok needs to be pretty much 100% nine realms and asgard business with as little earth based scenes and human sidekicks as possible.
FunkyPajamas
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I don't particularly care for Portman or her character in the movies, but if there is one thing I can't stand is "mew mew" girl.
But then how will we ever get to Jane thor? Olivia Wilde should have been jane and we would never have been in this terrible situation.
FunkyPajamas
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I never knew how badly I wanted this.
Why would they hire a woman that can't act?
Just... get Sif to do it.
Yautja_Warrior
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If your not a fan of Jane (Portman) then lets hope they don't kill off Thor in the next film and give Jane his power, like in the comics. I can see people loving that lol.
Manmademan
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Jane Thor? Get me Beta Ray Bill THEN We'll talk about "Jane Thor"
you know how I know you didn't read the comics?
Beta Ray Bill will be in either Thor Ragnarok or Guardians of the Galaxy 2. He has to be.
FunkyPajamas
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Portman wouldn't be able to lift even the prop Hammer.
The Lamonster
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I'm really glad they figured out how to make Bucky much less dorky from his TWS version.
Grizzlyjin
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I would imagine they'd either recast or give the mantle to someone other than Jane if they went down the female Thor route. They weren't exactly secretive about saying that Portman wasn't coming back for Thor 3 and there would be a new female lead.
I would just recast. I don't see the point in shaping the story around an actor that doesn't want to participate in any of this. Maybe that isn't an option or they're just putting it off for a few years. Who knows.
I would just recast. I don't see the point in shaping the story around an actor that doesn't want to participate in any of this. Maybe that isn't an option or they're just putting it off for a few years. Who knows.
Manmademan
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Agreed. You can have "jane thor" without it actually being jane foster, which always came off weird and contrived to me anyway.
FunkyPajamas
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They re-casted Rhodey who now has a larger part in the Avengers/Iron Man movies, I don't see a problem with changing Portman either.
I also agree that Sif would work as Thoress.
I also agree that Sif would work as Thoress.
Manmademan
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nah, needs to be a human if you're going to go the whole cancer subplot route.
and we all know there's only one human woman anyone wants to see continue on in this series.
make it happen marvel
Yautja_Warrior
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Well I know Jane is Thor at the moment and I thought he died recently, but I don't follow every single story though, far too many to read them all. So I guess you are saying real Thor is back alive again ?
Gotta love deaths in comics, very few get a permanent death.
Pai Pai Master
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Thor Odinson didn't die recently he just became unworthy
Actually he did die.
He and Hyperion were killed by Beyonders.
Triggerhappytel
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Oh, fair enough. I don't watch AoS so I just assumed General Ross was being brought in to oversee SHIELD, with Tony probably being promoted to boss of the organisation.
Honestly, I have a pretty hard time distinguishing between Portman and the Two Broke Girls actress, so if she hadn't been made so prominent in TDW I wonder if they could have just replaced her as Jane instead!
Bucky... dorky... in The Winter Soldier...?! Do you mean badass?!
LegendofDragoonLives
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lol who actually would want this? Didn't the female Thor sales tank?
He's literally the only intimidating villain Marvel has made so far. Out of what, 10+ movies? Did you watch the same movie as everyone else?The Lamonster said:
Manmademan
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Thor didn't die. He went AWOL after Ragnarok happened, which was around the time of Civil War. He's been back for yeeeeeeeeeeeeeears now.
Jane Thor got the hammer because regular Thor suddenly became "unworthy" in what might be the worst plot device of all time. Marvel hasn't bothered to say what it was that caused that, and it's already been reversed- first by introducing a hammer that only the "unworthy" could use (WTF?) and then by just deciding Thor had redeemed himself apparently through combat in Time Runs Out.
Secret wars has also introduced TWO hammers of Thor (aside from the one Beta Ray Bill has as well) So we're going to have two active Thors running around shortly.
yeah, that's hair splitting. everyone in the marvel universe except for about 8 people died when Time Ran Out. That's since been reversed and the MU is restored as it was before the incursion.
Broken Joystick
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1000% yes
FunkyPajamas
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She's so goddamn annoying. I will hunt you down.
First Team Cap, now this. You're dead to me.
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