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[Aselith]

Fine. But that has nothing to do with rape.

SOMEONE NEEDED TO KNOW

 

[royalan]

Awful, and I feel like she's only the first to speak out.

I've always found the weird stuff that some dudes do like the choking and the fish hooking especially really puts me off. Not sure if they ad lib that or if that's done for pain/punishment guys but I find it extremely distasteful whenever it pops up.

If you're watching porn from a reputable/large porn label, you can guarantee that almost everything you're seeing has been choreographed.

 

[EatChildren]

James Deen looks like Ted Bundy and has always creeped me out.

 

[PeterLegend]

James Deen seems to enjoy double anal and double vaginal penetration more than the chick tbh. weiner on weiner friction. Always thought the dude was weird.

 

[Hylian7]

I debated making a thread about this earlier, glad someone did. It's absolutely fucking awful that he pulled shit like that. It seems like more women are coming out with support for this. Even though he's not as widely known as Bill Cosby, I have a feeling this will go down in a similar manner to the Cosby situation.

 

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[hodayathink]

Also, if/when more accusations come out, they are more than likely also going to be from off-camera incidents. For as messed up as the porn world can be when it comes to protecting their own, disrespecting boundaries on set spreads really quickly and is the easiest way to get yourself on a bunch of no lists. Whereas doing it offset means that most of the time the stories are just treated as hearsay.

I debated making a thread about this earlier, glad someone did. It's absolutely fucking awful that he pulled shit like that. It seems like more women are coming out with support for this. Even though he's not as widely known as Bill Cosby, I have a feeling this will go down in a similar manner to the Cosby situation.

I agree with this. Stories are going to start coming out the woodwork, possibly as early as tomorrow.

 

[Two Words]

That's a stretch. Just because someone gloats about having a criminal behind bars doesn't imply they are looking forward to the criminal getting raped. Now if he said "I hope his butthole likes it" or something similar then yeah you can criticize them for it.

What do you think "let's see how he likes it" means?

 

[Takuan]

Not at all surprised, the guy's always choking and slapping girls in the face. It's completely believable he'd take it too far.

 

[RDreamer]

James Deen seems to enjoy double anal and double vaginal penetration more than the chick tbh. weiner on weiner friction. Always thought the dude was weird.

You really shouldn't equate liking "weird" things sexually to rape. There are plenty of people that love "wiener on wiener friction" and aren't rapists.

 

[CrocMother]

Not at all surprised, the guy's always choking and slapping girls in the face. It's completely believable he'd take it too far.

That's a separate issue with the porn industry, isn't it?

 

[Diprosalic]

What do you think "let's see how he likes it" means?

prison, lets see how he likes prison.
idk. that's what i've thought but i can see if you read it differently.

 

[Boke1879]

You really shouldn't equate liking "weird" things sexually to rape. There are plenty of people that love "wiener on wiener friction" and aren't rapists.

Yea I feel people are making the mistake and equating the sexual preferences of others in porn and correlating that to this story and I think that's wrong.

Stoya has done plenty of scenes where she's getting slapped and choked by men who aren't Deen. I know it's acting but she seems into it.

So lets not equate guys slapping, and choking girls in a more than likely rehearsed scene and use that to link them as being a potential rapist.

 

[TheKaeptain]

There seem to be a lot of people that don't understand. Porn is like the WWE of sex. It isn't real. It's entertainment.

 

[Darksol]

Not at all surprised, the guy's always choking and slapping girls in the face. It's completely believable he'd take it too far.

For fucks sake, hard sex does not make a rapist! The ONLY thing that makes rape rape is no consent.

 

[Takuan]

That's a separate issue with the porn industry, isn't it?

I don't see how the fact he gets paid to do it in an industry where this is a thing makes it a separate issue. This is James Deen; no one's telling him "Hey, you do these scenes or you don't work anymore". I don't think it's a stretch to say that he enjoys his work and it carries over to the bedroom. It's entirely believable that he may have taken things too far one night.

For fucks sake, hard sex does not make a rapist! The ONLY thing that makes rape rape is no consent.

Didn't say it was.

 

[Buzzati]

For fucks sake, hard sex does not make a rapist! The ONLY thing that makes rape rape is no consent.

choking and slapping women in the face during sex looks kind of rapey to most people - you're not going to change that by yelling at them.

 

[hodayathink]

There seem to be a lot of people that don't understand. Porn is like the WWE of sex. It isn't real. It's entertainment.

Unfortunately, no amount of explaining that to people is going to make them understand.

 

[King Tubby]

Ugh. Hope he goes to jail if it's true.

Not at all surprised, the guy's always choking and slapping girls in the face. It's completely believable he'd take it too far.

Most people who do that respect the safeword.

 

[Boke1879]

choking and slapping women in the face during sex looks kind of rapey to most people - you're not going to change that by yelling at them.

Sure but that doesn't mean rape. He's right. The only thing that makes rape, rape is no consent.

 

[MikeDown]

thought James Deen was gay, and also didn't he die in a car wreck?

 

[Hylian7]

There seem to be a lot of people that don't understand. Porn is like the WWE of sex. It isn't real. It's entertainment.

Exactly, it's the off camera stuff like this that's concerning.

Think of it like Hulk Hogan's racist tirade that wasn't part of any wrestling thing.

 

[royalan]

I don't see how the fact he gets paid to do it in an industry where this is a thing makes it a separate issue. This is James Deen; no one's telling him "Hey, you do these scenes or you don't work anymore". I don't think it's a stretch to say that he enjoys his work and it carries over to the bedroom. It's entirely believable that he may have taken things too far one night.

Not necessarily.

If you listen to a lot of porn stars tell it, a lot of porn stars go where the money is. There are plenty of who'll do things like ass play scenes, orgies, BDSM scenes, girl-on-girl, but are actually very conservative when it comes to the sex they have in private.

Hell, a lot of straight men do gay porn simply because it pays more.

 

[Darksol]

choking and slapping women in the face during sex looks kind of rapey to most people - you're not going to change that by yelling at them.

If a woman enjoys being choked and slapped and consents to do so with their partner how can that be "rapey"? I'm going to call out stupid comments that hurt the community when I see them.

Looks has nothing to do with anything. Only consent. Everything else is irrelevant.

 

[UberLevi]

Extremely sad to hear if true. The safeword exists for a reason.

Also sad to see the sheer number of people in here who think enjoying rough and physically aggressive sex practices equate to being a lowkey rapist.

 

[hodayathink]

I don't see how the fact he gets paid to do it in an industry where this is a thing makes it a separate issue. This is James Deen; no one's telling him "Hey, you do these scenes or you don't work anymore". I don't think it's a stretch to say that he enjoys his work and it carries over to the bedroom. It's entirely believable that he may have taken things too far one night.

It's a separate issue because the issue here isn't that he was rough with her. The issue here is that she told him to stop and he didn't. That's all. It could have been the most tender, passionate lovemaking in existence and that still wouldn't change that fact.

 

[Psychoward]

thought James Deen was gay, and also didn't he die in a car wreck?

that's James Dean

dunno if he was gay tho

 

[spootime]

You ever seen Two Toned Malone?

Lmao, two-tone is an absolute legend.

 

[Psychoward]

Not at all surprised, the guy's always choking and slapping girls in the face. It's completely believable he'd take it too far.

light choking is fun tho smh

 

[Arkeband]

Unfortunately, no amount of explaining that to people is going to make them understand.

I can imagine that some porn stars who are tasked to pretend-rape each and every day have to be affected on some level, where reality might not be so easily separated.

...OR he could just be a giant piece of shit.

Or both!

 

[Bronx-Man]

Damn, I didn't even know James & Stoya broke up. But that's seriously fucked up and I hope anymore victims can tell their stories now that's it's out in the open.

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

Disgusting if true. Hope he goes to jail then. Safewords exist for a good reason.


Bet you people will use this to demonize BDSM people. Already happening in this thread.

 

[-COOLIO-]

Stoya is an awesome person and this revlation is very disheartening to hear. I hope she gets some measure of Justice.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

James Deen seems to enjoy double anal and double vaginal penetration more than the chick tbh. weiner on weiner friction. Always thought the dude was weird.

The fuck is that supposed to mean and what does it have to do with this accusation?

Really disgusting if true but goddamn at some of the ignorant and judgmental comments in this thread

I know a lot of people admire stoya hopefully her coming out about this leads to more awareness or safety measures going forward

 

[UnforgivenTwin]

Lmao, two-tone is an absolute legend.

His multicolored dick can move mountains.

 

[WyndhamPrice]

that's James Dean


dunno if he was gay tho

This is completely off topic but there is actually a fair amount of anecdotal evidence suggesting he and other prominent actors of the time were bisexual! Pretty interesting to read about.

 

[nocturnalis]

This is awful (for Stoya + other potential victims). May he rot in hell if this is true.

I've never understood his popularity. He's not even hot or have an extremely awesome body.

 

[Cloyster]

Lot of people ignorant about sex and fetishes in this thread.

 

[MikeDown]

that's James Dean


dunno if he was gay tho

my mistake, carry on

 

[xxracerxx]

Consensual choking and slapping during sex now means you are a potential rapist. Jesus.

 

[Takuan]

light choking is fun tho smh

I agree. I dig most of the guy's work, straight up.

It's a separate issue because the issue here isn't that he was rough with her. The issue here is that she told him to stop and he didn't. That's all. It could have been the most tender, passionate lovemaking in existence and that still wouldn't change that fact.

Right, because people commonly use safewords during tender, passionate sex. Makes a whole lot of sense.

I am not saying rough sex is rape. I am not saying if you're personally into it, you're probably a rapist. All I'm saying is I've seen the guy fuck, and from what I've seen I can totally see him taking things too far one night and ignoring safe words. Is that a ridiculous statement?

 

[nocturnalis]

Stoya's seems to be pretty popular. Her name appears in reddit comments where people say other people look like her. Hopefully this encourages other victims to come forward. In cases with serial rapists, sometimes all you need is one victim to come forward.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

Speaking of this, is Bonnie Rotten still doing porn after the assault against her? She got beat up real fucking bad

 

[Boke1879]

I agree. I dig most of the guy's work, straight up.



Right, because people commonly use safewords during tender, passionate sex. Makes a whole lot of sense.

I am not saying rough sex is rape. I am not saying if you're personally into it, you're probably a rapist. All I'm saying is I've seen the guy fuck, and from what I've seen I can totally see him taking things too far one night and ignoring safe words. Is that a ridiculous statement?

What you're saying makes sense.

 

[royalan]

I am not saying rough sex is rape. I am not saying if you're personally into it, you're probably a rapist. All I'm saying is I've seen the guy fuck, and from what I've seen I can totally see him taking things too far one night and ignoring safe words. Is that a ridiculous statement?

Yes, it's a ridiculous statement. So is saying you've seen him fuck because you've watched his scenes.

Unless you were in the room while James Dean was fucking in his private time, you haven't seen him fuck.

Wow, a lot of people don't know how much of porn is a performance.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I agree. I dig most of the guy's work, straight up.

Yeah me too. Dude's not afraid to go all out with mmf stuff which I'm into, and i get a kick out of his aggressive acting but it feels weird now if he is really that kind of guy

 

[CrocMother]

Right, because people commonly use safewords during tender, passionate sex. Makes a whole lot of sense.

I am not saying rough sex is rape. I am not saying if you're personally into it, you're probably a rapist. All I'm saying is I've seen the guy fuck, and from what I've seen I can totally see him taking things too far one night and ignoring safe words. Is that a ridiculous statement?

Considering that it's pornography you are watching, it's an ignorant statement.

 

[Boke1879]

Yes, it's a ridiculous statement. So is saying you've seen him fuck because you've watched his scenes.

Unless you were in the room while James Dean was fucking in his private time, you haven't seen him fuck.

Wow, a lot of people don't know how much of porn is a performance.

Well the fact that Stoya mentioned safewords we can assume they were having rough sex

 

[Cloyster]

Well the fact that Stoya mentioned safewords we can assume they were having rough sex

And that doesn't matter.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Yes, it's a ridiculous statement. So is saying you've seen him fuck because you've watched his scenes.

Unless you were in the room while James Dean was fucking in his private time, you haven't seen him fuck.

Wow, a lot of people don't know how much of porn is a performance.

In the wrestling world, people like these are referred to as "marks". Porn seems to have a lot of them.