Nope, don't believe you. I powered through it on easy, took me waaay longer.
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How I learned to love The Witcher 3
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Nope, don't believe you. I powered through it on easy, took me waaay longer.
rawrhanfoo
Member
i held off playing because of the weapon degradation. does setting the game to easy remove this?
Vire
Member
It absolutely is a side quest, it's a mission that's optional to the completion of the game. I'm of the opinion that I rather have quality over quantity. I will gladly take a 30 hour game over a 120 hour game if that means I'm doing cool shit all the time.
lol
Psychoward
Banned
Holy shit shut the fuck up
Fucking go back to read the OP's post before replying to me in one second. He not only mentions he hates the combat, but hates the quests as well. That right there is exactly what I'm talking about and even you are confirming LMAO. How can a person even state dumb things like that when he hasn't progressed more than what's the tutorial area? Haha. Exacly the same as walking our of a theater after 10 minutes. And as far as gameplay goes, you barely have levels after 6 hours to customize your character. You have not seen skills and perks, or upgrades to magic, or new sword moves.
Denton
Member
Well, good thing that I was doing cool shit all the time in my 230 hours in Witcher 3 and its expansion. Cooler than in 100 hours it took me to get through ME trilogy, as much as I loved it.
RespectThySole
Member
No, but it doesn't cost much to fix weapons and you can find weapon repair kits pretty easily. Money is also pretty plentiful in the game. The only time I ever had a problem with money is when I mastercrafted 3 Witcher armors consecutively(starting form the base level) without doing any sidequests in between.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Weapon repair does get better in that you start having a lot more money and so the cost is trivial. It's still a pointless, dated mechanic that should have been ditched.
Quests are largely the same. Talk to person, follow Witcher senses to monster, fight monster, collect reward. There are some different quests here and there, but most of them are that. The stories in the quests are where the game shines, but most every other thing is alright at best.
Combat remains functional throughout, but is never anything special.
Quests are largely the same. Talk to person, follow Witcher senses to monster, fight monster, collect reward. There are some different quests here and there, but most of them are that. The stories in the quests are where the game shines, but most every other thing is alright at best.
Combat remains functional throughout, but is never anything special.
Cyber Caesar
Member
Dragon Age had a very similar thread to this one. smh
*shrug*
It had multiple threads. There have been multiple threads on this topic too. I think it is true of any popular game.
RespectThySole
Member
Fully agree. I easily did more "cool shit" in The Witcher 3 + Hearts of Stone than the entire Mass Effect series.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Again, if you hate how the quests are structured and hate how the combat works after six hours there is no reason to assume that the game is going to magically fix these things if you play for a dozen more hours. He even says he beat about a dozen side quests. Which is more then enough of a sample size to know if you enjoy how the quests are structured.
Comparing video games to movies is a terrible argument. They are nothing a like and you can't expect a person to play a game for ten hours just to get to the part you think is good. I wouldn't be trudging through hours of a game I don't like because some random guy on the internet says that it definitely gets better.
The bolded would be understandable if combat was not a focus in Witcher 3 but it is. So if you are going to make me continuously fight enemies to experience the so called wonderful story you need to have competent mechanics to back it up. Surely that is not an unreasonable expectation to have considering combat is a significant chunk of the player's interaction with the game world?
Witcher 3 Battle for Kaer Morhen > ME's Suicide Mission as well.
I'm up to the part where we
Honestly, the game is beautiful. Its visually impressive. Gwent is ok.
Some of the side quests are great too. They really go into depth and have good character interactions. Of course, the majority of them aren't like that. Usually they're simple, help find person or thing, help fight people or monster, etc.
The combat I'm still iffy about. It depends a lot on dodging very early on. Like the large monsters like the fiend have huge hit boxes or whatever its called. Its crazy when I roll dodge sometimes to the side but I still get hit by the air around the monster. Some of them are way too spongy as well (elementals, trolls, etc). The bandit fights are also pretty cheap. You have the archer jerks in the background with perfect aim and can snipe long distance. Then they apparently have the ability to switch in a split second to sword combat if you only hit them once. That doesn't even make sense. So it becomes you having to use axii to stun them every time. Don't even get me started on how the enemy can stun you as well. This is especially annoying in the fist fight tournaments. Hit 3 times dodge back or else you'll get stunned by something and they'll just wallop you. In the end for brawls, I just keep spamming strong punches because the AI apparently can't handle that over time.
The menu is just a pain to get through because of the icons it has to load so there's that delay when switching tabs. I know people will say, don't pick up every little thing, but yo, alchemy components and food don't weight anything, I'm gonna pick them all up. Especially the alchemy stuff because it is a headache having to go back to an area just to find an ingredient again. I had to go online to look up the ingredients guide because I couldn't find what I was looking for. That's something I feel they should have added. An in game guide where once you pick up something, it'll tell you what area you can go to to pick some more. The stash chest also gets load screen-tastic after putting some things in. I'm pretty much only keeping relics and witcher gear at this point.
The world is great to look at. But there are so many small things that would've made it better. Like being able to fast travel to any sign post you've been to without having to go to a sign post again first. People say that that is supposed to be realistic. But you have a map on you that shows you your own location as well as where the sign posts are. Wouldn't it be reasonable to think that you can fast travel by just looking at your map. A sign post alone allowing you to fast travel doesn't even make sense. What kind of sign post in white orchard would show you which way to go to Faroe? It doesn't.
Horse riding is just tiresome in this game. The races are just frustrating. Because Roach can and will get caught up on something invisible on the ground making you lose the race. This happens even outside of the races. One moment you're in a flat grassy area, the next, you can't move. I had to get off the horse, leave it there, run to another area, then call it again so it would teleport out of the spot it was stuck in.
Exploration fatigue really hit once I got to skellige. Novigrad/velen was ok. I found almost every area. But skellige is just a pain. Sirens and boat damage being a thing can go and screw off. There's no real incentive to explore the islands.
Also guards being undefeatable (at least when they gang up on you) is stupid. What is the point of that. If they level up with me, I'm pretty sure they can handle those monsters by themselves.
just changed Uma back to that elf and now I gotta go around gathering allies up to face the Hunt
Honestly, the game is beautiful. Its visually impressive. Gwent is ok.
Some of the side quests are great too. They really go into depth and have good character interactions. Of course, the majority of them aren't like that. Usually they're simple, help find person or thing, help fight people or monster, etc.
The combat I'm still iffy about. It depends a lot on dodging very early on. Like the large monsters like the fiend have huge hit boxes or whatever its called. Its crazy when I roll dodge sometimes to the side but I still get hit by the air around the monster. Some of them are way too spongy as well (elementals, trolls, etc). The bandit fights are also pretty cheap. You have the archer jerks in the background with perfect aim and can snipe long distance. Then they apparently have the ability to switch in a split second to sword combat if you only hit them once. That doesn't even make sense. So it becomes you having to use axii to stun them every time. Don't even get me started on how the enemy can stun you as well. This is especially annoying in the fist fight tournaments. Hit 3 times dodge back or else you'll get stunned by something and they'll just wallop you. In the end for brawls, I just keep spamming strong punches because the AI apparently can't handle that over time.
The menu is just a pain to get through because of the icons it has to load so there's that delay when switching tabs. I know people will say, don't pick up every little thing, but yo, alchemy components and food don't weight anything, I'm gonna pick them all up. Especially the alchemy stuff because it is a headache having to go back to an area just to find an ingredient again. I had to go online to look up the ingredients guide because I couldn't find what I was looking for. That's something I feel they should have added. An in game guide where once you pick up something, it'll tell you what area you can go to to pick some more. The stash chest also gets load screen-tastic after putting some things in. I'm pretty much only keeping relics and witcher gear at this point.
The world is great to look at. But there are so many small things that would've made it better. Like being able to fast travel to any sign post you've been to without having to go to a sign post again first. People say that that is supposed to be realistic. But you have a map on you that shows you your own location as well as where the sign posts are. Wouldn't it be reasonable to think that you can fast travel by just looking at your map. A sign post alone allowing you to fast travel doesn't even make sense. What kind of sign post in white orchard would show you which way to go to Faroe? It doesn't.
Horse riding is just tiresome in this game. The races are just frustrating. Because Roach can and will get caught up on something invisible on the ground making you lose the race. This happens even outside of the races. One moment you're in a flat grassy area, the next, you can't move. I had to get off the horse, leave it there, run to another area, then call it again so it would teleport out of the spot it was stuck in.
Exploration fatigue really hit once I got to skellige. Novigrad/velen was ok. I found almost every area. But skellige is just a pain. Sirens and boat damage being a thing can go and screw off. There's no real incentive to explore the islands.
Also guards being undefeatable (at least when they gang up on you) is stupid. What is the point of that. If they level up with me, I'm pretty sure they can handle those monsters by themselves.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
While the loyalty missions aren't considered main content, the way they're structured kinda suggests you should treat them as main content.
It's more apt to compare the N7 missions.
Man, Witcher fans are so sensitive.
Cyber Caesar
Member
No an almost identical thread. Guy had played 3 hrs of Dragon Age and said something crazy.
Don't be stubborn, man. I'm laughing when I hear something like "I hate the quests", because having finished the game, I know everything this person is going to miss. It also makes me wonder "wow, I wonder what would be his example of good quest structure" since, I don't know, Witcher 3 seems to be the standard now.
Nuno Pinto
Member
Happened the exact same thing with me. I didn't "hate" it, but the movement/combat is really not on the same level as the rest of the game. So clunky...
The quests can be really boring too, especially when it involves the "Witcher senses". Such a dumb mechanic.
And I loved Witcher 2, one of my favourite games last gen. It also has problems with the combat (movement is okay though, I don't understand how they screw this up with 3), but the game is much better paced.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
That's more or less me. I enjoy the Souls games but I don't quite understand the fervent adoration some people have for their combat such that every other game that doesn't have Souls style combat is some flaming piece of dog poop. Is the Witcher's combat great? No, but its good enough for me, especially in light of how much other awesome content is going on in the game. For me, the Souls games are all about the combat and exploring the different areas... but that's really about it. The Witcher has so much else going on that I can overlook the average combat.
Mister Wolf
Member
The combat isn't as good in the Witcher 3 compared to Bloodborne but everything else is way better. I despise the way Bloodborne and the other Souls games handle storytelling. To me the story being told through items and having to be pieced together is just as bad as Destiny's grimoire cards.
Fucking hell, people getting defensive about the Witcher because he's comparing it to Bloodborne. It's perfectly reasonable to be disappointed in a game because it's not as good as Bloodborne. That's what happens when you play an RPG that does things so much better than Witcher 3.
I can empathize, OP. I just bought W3 for Black Friday and I'm in a similar position. It's a very frustrating game in some aspects. I got really annoyed at the health system before I discovered how to meditate.
And pesonally, I lol at people who use Witcher 3 as the epitome of good game storytelling, especially in debates about The Last of Us or any other story driven game. I'm about 12 hours in and I find it boring shit. There's no reason to care about anyone in this story. Maybe because im just playing the third installment.
I can empathize, OP. I just bought W3 for Black Friday and I'm in a similar position. It's a very frustrating game in some aspects. I got really annoyed at the health system before I discovered how to meditate.
And pesonally, I lol at people who use Witcher 3 as the epitome of good game storytelling, especially in debates about The Last of Us or any other story driven game. I'm about 12 hours in and I find it boring shit. There's no reason to care about anyone in this story. Maybe because im just playing the third installment.
The Witcher 3 and Bloodborne are like comparing apples and oranges. The Witcher 3's combat is a natural evolution of the combat from Witcher 2 just like Bloodborne is an evolution from Dark Souls 2. They were never meant to be compared to one another. The Witcher combat is supposed to be slow and methodical where you must use Geralts various abilities and potions to help you gain the upper hand. Bloodborne is all about figuring out your opponent and using natural skill that you as a player have obtained throughout your play through. They're two totally different games that are both amazing!
but Witcher 3 is better though haha
Vire
Member
Just for curiosity sake, what site has handed out GOTY already?Witcher 3 already has beat it in three places, with more surely to come.
And everyone knows there's only one site that matters. This one.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
This is why no one is taking your opinion seriously. You can't handle the fact that someone might dislike something you enjoy so you immediately discount them.
You need to learn that people might have a different opinion then yours, because your attitude so far has come off extremely immature.
I understand what they are saying though. Since you like metrics, what is the metric for *cool shit* here?
Mister Wolf
Member
Golden Joysticks. The largest and oldest running gaming award.
RespectThySole
Member
http://gotypicks.blogspot.com/?m=1
The Witcher 3- 6
MGSV- 3
Fallout 4- 1
Prune- 1
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture- 1
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I think it will be a two way race on here between Bloodborne and Witcher.
Vire
Member
I haven't even heard of half those clown sites and I consider myself heavily invested in the video game world.Vire am cry
Hold up, gonna go start a blog and give Bloodborne GOTY.
Cloud Strife
Member
As someone who played witcher 3 right after bloodborne, I can relate somewhat. However, there are many things witcher does which blew me away. The questlines, the storytelling, the atmosphere and world...sure the combat is not as in depth as bloodborne, but I loved the witcher for other reasons and saw it as its own game (first and only witcher game I've ever played btw).
Denton
Member
I mean, this is just laughable. Wtf ? I did not find it clunky at all and animations look normal. I did enable the alternative movement system though, which tightens it up (check options menu, it is there).
Hahaha, clown sites now. I bet if Bloodborne had those 6, they wouldn't be clown sites anymore.
GillianSeed79
Member
I think it's more the fact that, especially on GAF, seemingly every game gets compared to Bloodborne/Souls series to the point where it gets kind of ridiculous. It's usually whenever a new game comes out there is segment of people who constantly post "why can't (x game" be more like Bloodborne/Dark Souls?" regardless if the games are even remotely similar. I do think the Witcher 3 and Bloodborne are more comparable than other games, but they prioritize completely different things. They both have their own priorities. The Witcher is a narrative-focused open world RPG with an emphasis on narrative. Blooborne is an action-driven RPG that focuses mainly on combat. I don't play a game like the Witcher for the combat and I sure as fuck don't play a game like Bloodborne for the story.
For the record, I prefer Witcher 2 to the Witcher 3. I think the latter is a little too talky, but those are my two cents.
The combat is definitely no great shakes and the weapon degradation serves absolutely no purpose but frustration. I'm enjoying it though.
[edit] For what it's worth, I think the game makes a really bad first impression. That early dungeon with like three boss fights in a row is awful, and it's probably one of the first things you'll do because it's one of the few things you have listed in your quest journal at that point in the game.
[edit] For what it's worth, I think the game makes a really bad first impression. That early dungeon with like three boss fights in a row is awful, and it's probably one of the first things you'll do because it's one of the few things you have listed in your quest journal at that point in the game.
Get a bunch of those weapon repair kits.
I played 90 hours of Fallout 4 before Witcher 3 and I think Witcher destroys the competition
Steve Youngblood
Member
I'll never understand why stuff like this is so contentious. Different people like different things in their gaming. The Witcher games are known for great characters and storytelling. On the combat front, they're known for serviceable-at-best gameplay. Witcher 3 added in an ambitious open world which in and of itself tends to be be a divisive aspect (i.e. open worlds are the current "in thing" right now, but does everyone like them?).
Personally, I loved Witcher 3. But I also loved the games that preceded it. Combat isn't anything to write home about, but it's good enough and better than what the previous games offered. But really it was just a great adventure and story. In terms of cutscenes in gaming, the Witcher series is practically the only one around that I don't find myself growing impatient with cutscenes and seemingly never-ending dialogue options.
But if you're looking for the best action RPG combat ever, this probably isn't the game for you.
Personally, I loved Witcher 3. But I also loved the games that preceded it. Combat isn't anything to write home about, but it's good enough and better than what the previous games offered. But really it was just a great adventure and story. In terms of cutscenes in gaming, the Witcher series is practically the only one around that I don't find myself growing impatient with cutscenes and seemingly never-ending dialogue options.
But if you're looking for the best action RPG combat ever, this probably isn't the game for you.
Mister Wolf
Member
Over 9 million votes were cast for the Golden Joystick Awards last year but ok..............clown sites.
People praised Wolfenstein left and right, i played it start to finish and couldn't uninstall it fast enough, it bored me to tears and i should've stopped 5 hours before that (game took me around 9 hours to beat).
If you don't enjoy something, who gives a shit what others think? Time is a very limited resource, don't waste it doing stuff you don't enjoy, unless you're forced.
UnrealEck
Member
Yes, Witcher 3's combat is poor. I wouldn't say it's terrible, but it's quite poor. It consists of rolling around and getting a few swings in or a spell or item.
Bloodborne's is better, but I didn't find that anything spectacular. I prefer the Souls games to that.
As for everything else though, I'd say it's probably better in Witcher 3. (graphics, story, dialogue)
Bloodborne's is better, but I didn't find that anything spectacular. I prefer the Souls games to that.
As for everything else though, I'd say it's probably better in Witcher 3. (graphics, story, dialogue)
I'd add that if it is the only thing you're looking for. There are plenty of people that appreciate W3 for the other things it does, in spite of its combat.
Even so, it's just a money sink and a frustration. What does it actually add to the game? At least once it caused me to fail a quest because I turned up to a place where cutscene starts automatically with a busted weapon, told the quest giver I needed time to prepare, and then got told that they'd wandered off and I never saw them again.