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Fighting Games Tournament: Dreams Don't Die at Dreamhack Winter 2015

I bet he would say differently if Justin actually won a premier spot.

Justin was gatekeeping at defend the north, and it was one of smug's last chances.
 
The only tweak I want for next year is for every person who earned a auto spot(regardless if they won it or got it by finishing 3rd) from a Premier event to automatically be ranked 1-16 in order of their total points. Then the guys that get in via points will be placed 17th through 32nd based on their points. And this would include the returning champ as well. Whoever that guy is I don't think that person should be placed in the top half of the bracket unless he earns it by winning a Premier event.
 
I'm annoyed that Elena won again but Luffy lost so it's okay I guess?

Also I felt his matchup knowledge for Elena wasn't as good as it could've been so eh.
 
The only tweak I want for next year is for every person who earned a auto spot(regardless if they won it or got it by finishing 3rd) from a Premier event to automatically be ranked 1-16 in order of their total points. Then the guys that get in via points will be placed 17th through 32nd based on their points. And this would include the returning champ as well. Whoever that guy is I don't think that person should be placed in the top half of the bracket unless he earns it by winning a Premier event.
Understandable. Nemo vs Dashio in the first round is a prime example of this.


Let's get a Capcom Cup thread up with fantasy bracket up.
 
IMO they should change a bit the direct spot rule. If there's no difference between a premier spot and getting in by points, why give the spot to someone who's already in? Specially the last 2 tournaments that didn't guaranteed points. If someone it's guaranteed, the spot should move in the line, no matter what. Only in the case that top 4 it's already in I would give the spot to a ranking player.

Also I would like a better point system. At the end it wasn't that big of a difference winning a premier or ranking, due huge gap between.
They need to see F1 and MotoGP systems, that make wins count but also consistent placing.

Sako placed 2nd in the first tournament and he's just 16 points behind Phenom, who has placed top 8 a few times (With a top 3 placing at Norway).
 
Just caught up

latest
 
but the dozens of major SF tournaments of the year aren't there just to be capcom cup qualifiers

and tournaments becoming less interesting as the year goes on because top players eliminate themselves from competition is just beyond dumb.
 
Abel i think can destroy Elena if he knocks her down but at the same time he doesnt have any 3 frame normals so i dont see how hes landing stepkicks in the first place.

Yea wtf @Chun, Elena is basically doing what Chun does but safer and with more reward.
 
Actually, I'm the EVO betting champion :kappa :

this it's my bracket. Most likely to be wrong, but I think it could be the best ending for USFIV

http://challonge.com/jgv60w8e

Wow you went through a lot of effort doing the points for each round.

You and Vulva both have Nemo winning his first three matches. Nemo just got stomped by a Seth player. I don't see him beating Dashio > Xian > Gamerbee > Momochi. If he did, that would be a crazy run.

Also not judging your picks just having fun going through the predictions.
 
Why does Sagat beat Elena?
He can keep her in a pocket where she's rendered pretty useless.

Low tiger shots = Can't slide and can't ex rhino horn through them safely because he's left in a crouching position and it whiffs. She's forced to just walk him down which can work but often doesn't if the Sagat player makes sure not to corner himself. He can punish all her specials on block with a heavy DP. Very hard matchup if the Sagat player plays it right tbh. Bonchan vs Sako. I really do think Bonchan choked vs Kindevu at the CPTA Finals.
Or Abel? Or Chun? I don't see Juri either, but sure.

Abel i think can destroy Elena if he knocks her down but at the same time he doesnt have any 3 frame normals so i dont see how hes landing stepkicks in the first place.

Yea wtf @Chun, Elena is basically doing what Chun does but safer and with more reward.
Abel can whiff punish Elena's cr.jab with step kick. I've had it happen to me a bit too many times. He can punish most of her specials with step kick. Abel can really have his way with her right when he gets in.

Chun can keep up with Elena's buttons, her fireball is too low to the floor to slide, can AA her fine, punish all her specials on block with ex legs, punish healing fullscreen with healing. Chun can really control the game if she doesn't let Elena get in her space and also doesn't feed Elena tons of meter by only fireball-ing.

Juri is similar, can't slide the low fireballs, Juri is able to zone her out and can't easily be locked down. Always has an answer to healing. Juri's U1 can be an instant comeback factor off of one knockdown. If Elena doesn't have meter then das it. I've played this matchup extensively with Kreymore online. Played at least 60+ matches against his Juri.

Sagat/Chun/Juri can all zone and keep Elena out. They all have different strengths in the matchup which give her a varying degree of difficulty.

I'd say

Juri 6 - 4
Chun 5.5 - 4.5
Sagat 6-4
Abel 5.5 - 4.5

This is in my opinion ofc, from what I've went against in tournament, casuals and online.
 
So it looks like Itabashi pulled Bonchan for his first match. Guess he'll be fighting out of the losers bracket from the start.
 
He can keep her in a pocket where she's rendered pretty useless.

Low tiger shots = Can't slide and can't ex rhino horn through them safely because he's left in a crouching position and it whiffs. She's forced to just walk him down which can work but often doesn't if the Sagat player makes sure not to corner himself. He can punish all her specials on block with a heavy DP. Very hard matchup if the Sagat player plays it right tbh. Bonchan vs Sako. I really do think Bonchan choked vs Kindevu at the CPTA Finals.



Abel can whiff punish Elena's cr.jab with step kick. I've had it happen to me a bit too many times. He can punish most of her specials with step kick. Abel can really have his way with her right when he gets in.

Chun can keep up with Elena's buttons, her fireball is too low to the floor to slide, can AA her fine, punish all her specials on block with ex legs, punish healing fullscreen with healing. Chun can really control the game if she doesn't let Elena get in her space and also doesn't feed Elena tons of meter by only fireball-ing.

Juri is similar, can't slide the low fireballs, Juri is able to zone her out and can't easily be locked down. Always has an answer to healing. Juri's U1 can be an instant comeback factor off of one knockdown. If Elena doesn't have meter then das it. I've played this matchup extensively with Kreymore online. Played at least 60+ matches against his Juri.

Sagat/Chun/Juri can all zone and keep Elena out. They all have different strengths in the matchup which give her a varying degree of difficulty.

I'd say

Juri 6 - 4
Chun 5.5 - 4.5
Sagat 6-4
Abel 5.5 - 4.5

This is in my opinion ofc, from what I've went against in tournament, casuals and online.

LTS are effective against her outside of focus range, no slides for her.. Floaty jump means AAs are simpler.

Yea I could see that. Guess i need to lab this MU out.
 
Yea I could see that. Guess i need to lab this MU out.

Play against Blackule and show us dem Elena losses

It's one of those things that you don't really see until you play it I think.

My like...ultra rusty Sagat destroyed Onemic's Elena a while back at the time when my polished Ken was going on 7 game loss streaks against him.
 
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