Escape Goat
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Gamora and Drax got nerfed. Thanos probably will too.
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Gamora and Drax got nerfed. Thanos probably will too.
peanutbutterlatte
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Would be a nice callback to when Tony wouldn't let him have Blomsky in the Avengers too.
I forgot all about that.
Actualy, it's the other way around. In the consultant one shot, Coulson and Sitwell are tasked by the world security council to recruit abomination from Ross. They rightfully think that's a terrible idea so they send Tony who they know will get under Ross' skin to sabotage the recruitment.
pseudocaesar
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I would shit my pants if we got to see Thanos snap his fingers and destroy half the galaxy lol
More_Badass
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Linkstrikesback
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If Cap goes to hit Thanos he should end up like he's on the wrong end of being in a fight involving Saitama.
Still, it's a movie and I'm sure they'd never do that, so I fully expect Cap and Tony to fight thanos and survive for at least a significant amount of time making all the build up a bit of a waste.
I just hope they finally give Hulk a 1v1 fight vs a villain that isn't an afterthought. I mean, the last two avengers films made it fairly clear he could have wiped Loki at any point and ultron didn't even try to fight Hulk...
Still, it's a movie and I'm sure they'd never do that, so I fully expect Cap and Tony to fight thanos and survive for at least a significant amount of time making all the build up a bit of a waste.
I just hope they finally give Hulk a 1v1 fight vs a villain that isn't an afterthought. I mean, the last two avengers films made it fairly clear he could have wiped Loki at any point and ultron didn't even try to fight Hulk...
shattyboombatty
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Bye Bye Star Wars
Wow...that's certainly an impressive number. I suppose Superhero Fatigue hasn't really set in yet.
Oh, and on the earlier conversation of potentially returning villains, it should be noted that Red Skull, Malekith, Ronan, and Ultron were all 'killed' directly by infinity stones. If, the next stones also directly dispatch a major villain, I wouldn't be surprised if they're all brought back as a supervillain team.
Oh, and on the earlier conversation of potentially returning villains, it should be noted that Red Skull, Malekith, Ronan, and Ultron were all 'killed' directly by infinity stones. If, the next stones also directly dispatch a major villain, I wouldn't be surprised if they're all brought back as a supervillain team.
Probably deserves its own thread. I'm still under the belief that BvS will gross more due to Batman but this makes me wonder how set in stone that really is.
ReplacementPelican
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Anecdotal, I know, but I've seen far more hype for any Marvel movies than Batman V Superman. I saw a lot of hype for Suicide Squad but people seem to be sleeping on BVS. I reckon it could do a billion but the poor taste of Man of Steel is still in people's mouths and I think audiences are still jaded to 'it's not The Dark Knight'.
They'll probably do about the same, I'd think.
SchrodingerC
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That'll be the perfect time for Squirrel Girl to off-screen Thanos. It would be the best ending ever.
All my "bro" friends are into both but much more hyped for BvS because they love Batman so much. Conversely, Civil War seems to have more traction with a broader audience including some female friends who aren't interested in BvS at all.
Like you said though, it's all anecdotal.
Comfort Jones
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I feel like we're now at the point where it's so common in action films that people now want to defend it as an artistic choice and not a choice made out of convenience.
I'd be more willing to accept this idea if they didn't do a cut for just about every fight ever. I literally cannot remember a specific move in any of the fights at all, meanwhile I can remember almost the entire fight between Neo and Smith for a reason.
They weren't willing to go through the effort of making a fight look real without a bunch of cuts. If the fights only lasted like 3 seconds I would understand it, but there's so much of a focus on it and yet the actual cinematography and choreography is so lacking.
I really have no clue which would gross more-but I'm thrilled that we are getting two giant comic book movies in the same year. If I could go back in time and tell my 13 year old self this, it would be unbelievable. I just wish GAF could cherish both instead of breaking down into the typical Marvel vs DC crap. Just love them all!!
Butterkuchen is the right meme for everything.
BKatastrophe
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So people can be upset at the fact that Bats would lose?
The real question is:
Who is the better tracker? T'challa, or DC's very own Catman?
Question of the century right there.
I'm assuming you're taking about Winter Soldier here. Most people remember the killer knee to the chest, the goddamn suplex, and the knife struggle. Less memorable but still cool scenes include Bucky taking the shield and Cap manhandling Bucky into a RNC. None of that includes the two awesome running scenes on the ship and after Fury is shot that don't involve quick cuts or shaky cam.
LucidMomentum
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Not to mention the Batroc fight was easy to view as well.
That whole sequence really didn't have shaky cam.
Comfort Jones
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Unfortunately I can't remember these shots at all, but I'll take your word for it.
However I don't think that diminishes the effect all the times the quick cuts/shaky cam were used had on my experience seeing how it's the main take away I had from it in terms of criticism.
BKatastrophe
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You forgot the best part:
One of the best moments in superhero comics.
Y'all can fight me if you disagree, but that NEEDS to get adapted to the big screen.
Different strokes and all that. I can sympathize with having action scenes ruined with distracting cuts and shaky cam but I personally didn't find it to be so in WS.
BronsonLee
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I think Black Man would win
Also of all of the movies to get mad about shaky cam on, Winter Soldier ain't it
ReplacementPelican
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May I ask what country you're in? I wonder if Batman and Superman are more beloved in America than Europe because I don't really know anyone who is a fan of the characters other than liking The Joker. (UK)
The Silver
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Cap'n Murica > Avengers it is known
America. People love the hell out of Batman here
You forgot the best part:
They'll probably give this moment to Tony because he needs things to do. Along with the shield shatter, wielding Thor's hammer and shouting "NO" in Thanos face.
Nah, the movie can't be blamed for your poor memory.
I could see Chris Evans doing that.You forgot the best part:
Blackleg-sanji1
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All this thanos hype in here..how exactly was this guy beat in comics than?
Comfort Jones
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Well I'm going through the major action scenes right now and between this and the GSP fight there are almost zero shots that give you more than 5 seconds before cutting to a different angle while shaking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_WnCLJJ-Mg
It's definitely not as bad as some other movies but to pretend it's not a major factor is just silly.
The Artisan
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Guaranteed it is because of it being a massive versus story. Not that a 3rd cap film wouldn't be hugely successful on its own, but Disney themselves are banking on rdj' involvement in the film to boost its popularity as a solo cap film and followup to cap2.
Ok.
Shots over 5 seconds are not the norm in ANY movie genre. For action scenes, a shot will generally last 1-3 seconds, unless there's specifically a longer tracking shot (like the DD hallway scene).
Oh, and the shakey cam is absolutely used for effect in that specific scene.
Tony'll make a suit out of the material from Thor's hammer and make 'I'm worthy' jokes.
Manmademan
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Batman is by a LOT.
BKatastrophe
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I know. But i'm really fucking tired of people STILL spewing that bullshit.
The last solo Iron-Man movie bitchslapped nolan's batman best. And Cap is more popular than ever was before.
I can't believe I just read this statement on GAF
(actually I can but I wish I hadn't)
Linkstrikesback
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I mean, he has to if Thanos is going to get his infinity gem. It's like the easiest guess there is.
Zeyphersan
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Money-wise...
The Dark Knight: $1,004,558,444 (94 RT/82 MC)
The Dark Knight Rises: $1,084,939,099 (87 RT/78 MC)
Iron Man 3: $1,215,439,994 (79 RT/62 MC)
Other relevant numbers:
Man of Steel: $668,045,518 (56 RT/55 MC)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier: $714,421,503 (89 RT/70 MC)
Comfort Jones
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Just opinions, man.
I mean I don't agree either but there's no reason to get too emotionally invested lol.
Edit-Unless he means money wise, at which point lol really man?
The discussion seems to be about money, and how well each movie will do compared to the others. There's no question that the Marvel movies pull in a lot more than DC's outings...the question is if Superman + Batman will be a big enough draw to outdo what is essentially an Avengers film.
'bitchslap' was just a pointless choice of wording, I think...
'bitchslap' was just a pointless choice of wording, I think...
What did he mean by this?
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TDKR made $40 million more domestically than IM3 tho so the US still loves Batman more. Why Man of Steel and Winter Soldier are being compared randomly... I dont know? This aint the time place or thread.
peanutbutterlatte
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Looking at those figures and wondering how Infinity War Pt. 2 with Avengers, Spider-Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy will do.... hm.
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