PensivePen
Member
I'll stay optimistic and hope this feature gets a lot of support. Going to be quite disappointed though if all we get are a handful of games released every few months.
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Where have you been? Konami wont do it. They basically exited the gaming market to be in Pachinko business 1000%.
Bear Force One
Banned
Yup. If they provided BOTH options there wouldn't be all the justified outrage.
But again like with terrible DLCdeals and Season Passes, we see that people will buy anything.
The Real Napsta
Member
I own twisted metal black on PS3, do I have to buy it again?
If its profitable they will, can't imagine it will cost the much.
Low risk high reward
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
You're mad the games are 15 dollars, but fine with paying 15 dollars ? Make up your mind. That ahold statement from you sounds contradicting.
Freeman
Banned
Stop what? Why do I need to stop? Discussing about VG in a VG forum?
meanspartan
Member
PCSX2 can already run games in 1080p or even much higher, adding in AA as well. And this on my old Radeon 7850, which is a relatively low-end card these days.
The Ps4 could have done the exact same thing. Instead the big announcement is "buy more old games". Cool, I guess. But it's meaningless to me.
That game I loved it but it hated me. Played it 90% through twice to get stuck in the final dungeon twice
foolishoptimist
Member
Lol - Twisted Metal Black is the only PS2 Classic that I owned 
Might pick up Rogue Galaxy, always wanted to play that, but moved onto PS3 at the time.
Might pick up Rogue Galaxy, always wanted to play that, but moved onto PS3 at the time.
Stone Ocean
Member
If you have a rig that can run PCSX2 well why do you care about the PS4 running PS2 games again?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Lmao heres the real problem people!!!
Chances are yes. I'd wait till tomorrow.
Futurevoid
Member
New games, sure. Low effort release via emulation? Why not? They barely have to do anything but collect money out of the deal. Don't be silly.
Yeah. Basic, just upscale res and framerate disc play. Sell to those that want trophies and other ps4 features.
I got it for free when I dayoned TM ps3Lol - Twisted Metal Black is the only PS2 Classic that I owned
Might pick up Rogue Galaxy, always wanted to play that, but moved onto PS3 at the time.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Yeah totally agree. Up until now I've trusted Sony with digital purchases, they did a decent job ensuring a lot of PSN purchases crossed over the PS4 initially. However now you have to look at it and think who do you trust to carry this generations purchases on to the next, at this point my answer would have to be Microsoft.
DangerMouse
Member
Have fun.
Ability to change PSN names!
Brian_FETO
Banned
People who pay for games they want to play are killing the industry!
The Real Napsta
Member
All of them that are bc carry over, what are you on about?
Sony had digital content on the PS3, PSP, and Vita, and you could play a single PS1 purchase on all of them. The PS4 is the fourth system from Sony with online stores, and is looking like the first one where your PS1 purchase won't carry over. PSP purchases mostly carried over to the Vita. There's even some PS3 games that Sony ported to the PS4 then made cross-buy.
meanspartan
Member
I'm not ok with rebuying games for $15 being the ONLY option when Ps4 clearly has the capability to let us run our Ps2 discs upscaled.
Of course it's cool to sell games digitally, I'd even buy some for games I don't have on my disc collection.
But I guess I was hoping Sony would be pushed to do something to respond to Microsoft's (free) backwards compatibility push. The cell processor wouldn't allow for emulation of Ps3 games, so the next best thing would be Ps2/Ps1 titles upscaled through a PCSX2-style emulator app on the Ps4.
I'm dreaming I guess.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
News at 11!!
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Please let FFXII be there!!! Please!!
*see's list*
fml
*see's list*
fml
Right? damn forgot about that one.
Stone Ocean
Member
FFXII is probably gonna get the remaster treatment
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Rumors of a hd remaster for that so who knows
DangerMouse
Member
But not all of them are bc. I was thinking of the basic XBLA ones from earlier. I didn't think they all did.
meanspartan
Member
1. Because I want to play them on my Ps4.
2. Because not everyone has a gaming pc with even an entry-level graphics card.
3. Because backwards compatibility is a great precedent to have in general, especially since newer consoles clearly don't have the resilience of the old cartridge based machines.
Yep and I am glady buying shadow complex againn
Freeman
Banned
This guy gets it.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Well, I guess they are going to charge for PS2 classics again on PS4 as GTA games are available as PS2 classics right now. This is complete BS. The games are NOT remakes, they are running in an emulator and trophies are done through monitoring memory states (there was a patent discussion on this one not so long ago). 1080p is done through the emulator and shareplay and such are basic PS4 capabilities.
In short Sony is basically saying f-you to their fans who bought the freaking things once already on PS3 even though they may have had disks (I certainly did that with a crapload of Atlus games). Basically what Sony is doing is making a lot of their fans a lot less likely to purchase digital versions of games. I find their stance very disappointing.
In short Sony is basically saying f-you to their fans who bought the freaking things once already on PS3 even though they may have had disks (I certainly did that with a crapload of Atlus games). Basically what Sony is doing is making a lot of their fans a lot less likely to purchase digital versions of games. I find their stance very disappointing.
DangerMouse
Member
I should download that PC version they announced yesterday since this game is supposed to be good.
You're in the massive minority though. An edge case that Sony seriously does not give a shit about.
When's the One gonna play original xbox games guys?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Are they removing people's classics from their ps3's??
Hedonism Bot
Member
When people paid for ps3 classics, was there actually any agreement between them and sony that they would get to play it on every console afterwards? Would anyone now go back in time and stop themselves from paying for a ps3 classic because suddenly they are denied access to them on a new console? I admit, it would be super sweet if the license carried over and gave you instant access to the new version with more features, but they haven't actually taken anything from anyone, yet people are acting like they've been robbed and exploited.
My slight annoyance with this is that it doesn't fit with how good they've been on other fronts like getting crossbuy owners free access to ps4 versions, so the inconsistency is a little issue. But as far as their sales tactics are concerned, they've invested money into a new feature without removing or denying anyone access from something people were perfectly happy to pay for at the time.
My slight annoyance with this is that it doesn't fit with how good they've been on other fronts like getting crossbuy owners free access to ps4 versions, so the inconsistency is a little issue. But as far as their sales tactics are concerned, they've invested money into a new feature without removing or denying anyone access from something people were perfectly happy to pay for at the time.
Bolivar687
Banned
The "norm" in every other industry is that purchases of digital content are not repackaged every time you upgrade to the next iteration. Sony's lack of foresight in the online space has bitten them in the ass so many times that it blows my mind people are now defending them for it. I'm not sure how long you've played on Playstation but I assure you there was indeed a time when they had a reputation for preserving their legacy. My discs and even memory cards worked on PS3. They already have a virtual PS2 emulator - it was flawed, for sure, but instead of perfecting it and adding to its features they're now selling you games of their choosing for $15 a pop - some of which you may have already paid for.
#4TheShareholders
Ah yes, sorry. 4th System. I wasn't counting handhelds.
PS1 BC is still up in the air. We dont know of it. PS3 cross buy titles were game by game basis and not a norm to port over all titles. There is no indication Sony will do so the same every gen. That was my point. (trying to keep the VITA breathing was a reason some games were ported over to it as well even when they are shit)
The Real Napsta
Member
Probably never, but Phil said they are looking into it.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
1. Runs in crap resolution.
2. Runs like crap on modern TVs.
3. A lot of people already BOUGHT PS2 Classics on PSN. Why the heck should we be paying again for the same thing?
4. Because of item 3 above a lot of people will find it unreasonable to continue purchasing any PS1/PS2/PSP games as going forward there is fat chance these will stay there.
5. What happens in a few years when Sony decides to shut down PS3 downloads ala PSP? There is no Vita alternative as you have for that. Are folks here prepared to keep rebuying their favorite games forever on each new platform?
6. Defense of Sony in this instance is ridiculous. Yeah, I could even understand a small upgrade/transfer fee (would quite dislike it but at least it would be bearable) but just making people rebuying their digital versions once again when Sony has a functional emulator for the same games on PS4 is bullshit.
Freeman
Banned
Its not about an agreement, no one is saying they don't have the right to do it.
It just suck that they hold those views in 2015 and just put Sony at a terrible position going forwards if they believe in this BS.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
What happens in 3 years when you won't be able to redownload PS2 classics onto PS2? See PSP (there you at least have Vita).