PlayStation 2 comes to PS4 official trailer
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This is just the start though I was surprise hey have these already to be honest.
LordBaztion
Member
Wait, Sony managed to get Rockstar licensing vice city and san Andreas for PS4? Nice.
Stallion Dan
Member
I guess we'll end up with the same bollocks of Japan/US getting most games and EU getting sod all in comparison. If PS1/2 classics anything to go by.
shanafan
Member
I bought the voucher off of eBay for $35.
DeVeAn
Member
I think the only reasonable demand here is, if you owned the game digitally then you should be offer the PS4 version at a discount. There is work to be done with improved performance and up res with trophy support.
This sticks out more because Microsoft is offering free and Nintendo discounts. If Sony does not apply the discount idea the stop the steam of goodwill they rebuilt with gamers.
This sticks out more because Microsoft is offering free and Nintendo discounts. If Sony does not apply the discount idea the stop the steam of goodwill they rebuilt with gamers.
family_guy
Member
$15 for the enhancements is too high, but $10 for the PS2 classics with no improvements was acceptable?
DangerMouse
Member
Yeah.
Shadow of Rome 2/Remake is the gladiator game we deserve, but not the one the industry will make right now.
Tizoc
Member
u wot mate
I mean KoF 2000 isn't that bad, it's ranks among the top 10 KoF games, but that is one hell of a random PS2 game to feature lol. Dunno if this is a game I'd shell $15 for though :X
Gimme NGBC or KoF XI instead
A lot of us folks have already purchased these games. Often multiple times. That's what makes the price really annoying.
I just don't like how Sony have screwed over fans who invested in PSN last gen. So literally all the games you bought digitally on their previous platform are fucking stuck there. How did they fuck that up? The only thing that carry's over to the PS4 is your PSN ID. What's the point if we have to deal with this? It's a huge slap in the face.
dreamlongdead
Member
Just hold on to your PS3.
Way to miss the point.
So you're ok with Sony fucking consumers that invested in their 'ecosystem' over the years? It's 2015, we shouldn't have to deal with this bullshit. Where are your priorities?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Ooooo shit!! That was ps2?? Yoooo sony plz!!
It inspires no confidence in buying games this generation if they won't work on the next.
GHG
Gold Member
This is what I don't get through all of this to be honest.
For example when journey came out on the ps4 they allowed anyone who who owned it on the PS3 to have it on the PS4 for free without having to repurchase.
So why not the same thing here if people have the licences for the games coming to BC in their library?
Obliterator
Member
I'm buying almost all of the listed titles.
1080p and Trophy Support? In
1080p and Trophy Support? In
KyanMehwulfe
Member
I don't mind re-buying a few if it means a better version of the game because I already have a PS2, PS3, and PC if I wanted otherwise, but at $15.... maybe $20 CAD, that's pretty steep. I'd impulse buy a lot of games at $10 but if it ends up being $15 or even CAD$20 that's gonna give me a lot of pause and probably end up spending less lol
Diprosalic
Banned
$15 is too much for me but i'm glad they exist so i can nab a few on sale.
SAME
It's nickle and diming on their part. How the fuck do not have this down after establishing PSN already? So basically all that work in building that impressive catalog of games on there store was for fucking nothing. And since all those titles are stuck on their last gen machine, you know that they will discontinue the store at some point. All those years of work and investment for fucking nothing.
Agent X
Member
I have to say that I am not impressed.
First things first: they should keep the same pricing scheme they did with PS2 classics on PS3. I believe they were all $9.99 tops. I don't know why they're raising the price on games that were previously $9.99.
More importantly, though, is that it doesn't look like they're going to honor cross-buy for previously purchased PS2 classics. I bought Twisted Metal: Black already on PS3, and I'm not feeling the desire to purchase it all over again considering that Nintendo and Microsoft allow users to carry over Wii/Xbox 360 downloads to their newer systems at no extra cost.
I hope I'm wrong about that. I really hope that I'm wrong, and that Sony surprises us and decides to institute cross-buy on PS2 classics.
Agreed. Microsoft attracted a lot of positive attention with this.
You would think that after Microsoft proudly and loudly boasted "We don't make you pay to play your old games", that Sony's brass would've been on high alert. Nope, they fell right into the trap.
The ironic thing was that this was originally a false strawman argument a few months ago (it was a dumb dig at PS Now rentals)...and then Sony pulls a stunt like this and turns it into a true argument. Absolutely bewildering, I tel you.
I couldn't give a flying flip if they had been planning this since Lincoln was president. Microsoft changed the narrative a few months ago with their backward compatibility announcement...and Nintendo had been offering BC on Wii U even longer than that. Sony had plenty of time to read the tea leaves and react accordingly.
Exactly.
Sony has been very good about this for years, but now they're squandering a lot of the goodwill that they accumulated in recent years. The fact that Sony would now ask people to repurchase their classic games while their two chief competitors allow free transfers makes them look greedy by comparison.
I hope they reconsider this position, and allow downloadable PS2 classics on PS3 to transfer over to PS4 at no extra charge (even if it means losing the ability to earn trophies). That is what is necessary to retain consumer confidence.
First things first: they should keep the same pricing scheme they did with PS2 classics on PS3. I believe they were all $9.99 tops. I don't know why they're raising the price on games that were previously $9.99.
More importantly, though, is that it doesn't look like they're going to honor cross-buy for previously purchased PS2 classics. I bought Twisted Metal: Black already on PS3, and I'm not feeling the desire to purchase it all over again considering that Nintendo and Microsoft allow users to carry over Wii/Xbox 360 downloads to their newer systems at no extra cost.
I hope I'm wrong about that. I really hope that I'm wrong, and that Sony surprises us and decides to institute cross-buy on PS2 classics.
Agreed. Microsoft attracted a lot of positive attention with this.
You would think that after Microsoft proudly and loudly boasted "We don't make you pay to play your old games", that Sony's brass would've been on high alert. Nope, they fell right into the trap.
The ironic thing was that this was originally a false strawman argument a few months ago (it was a dumb dig at PS Now rentals)...and then Sony pulls a stunt like this and turns it into a true argument. Absolutely bewildering, I tel you.
I couldn't give a flying flip if they had been planning this since Lincoln was president. Microsoft changed the narrative a few months ago with their backward compatibility announcement...and Nintendo had been offering BC on Wii U even longer than that. Sony had plenty of time to read the tea leaves and react accordingly.
Exactly.
Sony has been very good about this for years, but now they're squandering a lot of the goodwill that they accumulated in recent years. The fact that Sony would now ask people to repurchase their classic games while their two chief competitors allow free transfers makes them look greedy by comparison.
I hope they reconsider this position, and allow downloadable PS2 classics on PS3 to transfer over to PS4 at no extra charge (even if it means losing the ability to earn trophies). That is what is necessary to retain consumer confidence.
Krusenstern
Banned
Very, very disappointing. Looks like my PS2 is going nowhere.
Also unbelievable they're charging for the same PS Classics on PS4 again, even if you bought them from PSN already.
Also unbelievable they're charging for the same PS Classics on PS4 again, even if you bought them from PSN already.
SolarMystic
Member
Sony needs regular ps2 classic support like they had on ps3. Absolutely no reason why it couldn't work on ps4.
As for these "enhanced" versions. They should be discounted for people who already bought it as a "classic". $15 is also a little steep for 15 year old games with tiny resolution enhancements.
As for these "enhanced" versions. They should be discounted for people who already bought it as a "classic". $15 is also a little steep for 15 year old games with tiny resolution enhancements.
family_guy
Member
That was never a guarantee. Just something people thought they were entitled to. Build a gaming PC if you want to play your same old games for decades.
Sony as a company will die one day, and yes, all of that will go down the drain regardless. That's what a closed ecosystem will get you.
That should have no bearing on what you buy right now. Unless one is so concerned about PS6 not having PS4 BC, it matters little to one's enjoyment in the here and now
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Sucks that there isn't an upgrade price, licensing and all, but they really shouldn't be ignoring people's previously PSN bought PS2 classics (let alone playing old discs). Still, as I didn't have that many PS2 classics, and more importantly never even had a PS2, I can overlook these problems and become really excited to play enhanced versions of some of the best 6th gen games I never had access to (had a GameCube and my brother had an Xbox, go figure).
Rogue Galaxy in particular caught my interest, probably because I may have seen it mentioned in a "hidden PS2 gems" list here. However, I don't think it has ever been re-released before, so them launching PS2 games on PS4 with this game is a pleasant surprise. Any people with first-hand experience able to verify that the game is as good as I've heard.
Three other games I hope they bring over, even if it is somewhat unlikely because they'd need to fund a localizations, are Tales of Destiny 1 (Director's Cut), 2, and Tales of Rebirth. These games all seem like they are well liked by most people who have played them, and since I like "Tales of", I thought it'd be cool if we could revisit some classics in the series. Alas, it is probably somewhat unlikely for it to get a localized release outside of Japan, but maybe they could still get digital releases on the Japanese PSN?
Dark Cloud 2 and Dragon Quest VIII are also pretty good, right? FF12 and Valkyrie Profile 2 are other interests, theres way more I'm sure, but that's all that's popping up in my head right now.
Rogue Galaxy in particular caught my interest, probably because I may have seen it mentioned in a "hidden PS2 gems" list here. However, I don't think it has ever been re-released before, so them launching PS2 games on PS4 with this game is a pleasant surprise. Any people with first-hand experience able to verify that the game is as good as I've heard.
Three other games I hope they bring over, even if it is somewhat unlikely because they'd need to fund a localizations, are Tales of Destiny 1 (Director's Cut), 2, and Tales of Rebirth. These games all seem like they are well liked by most people who have played them, and since I like "Tales of", I thought it'd be cool if we could revisit some classics in the series. Alas, it is probably somewhat unlikely for it to get a localized release outside of Japan, but maybe they could still get digital releases on the Japanese PSN?
Dark Cloud 2 and Dragon Quest VIII are also pretty good, right? FF12 and Valkyrie Profile 2 are other interests, theres way more I'm sure, but that's all that's popping up in my head right now.
If you bought it, it should be yours. As that game is tied to your account.
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
So because Sony will one day close its doors, that should in some way excuse/alleviate the utterly dogshit practices they are displaying in the now? What's more, the tech is already there. There is no excuse at all. We criticize Nintendo for being behind the times in many areas, but Sony, the top dog right now, should be held to a higher standard. How they haven't caught up to Valve, Apple, and Google at this point is fucking unthinkable. We're going into 2016, but they are stuck in 2006.
I know. You mean you should also be able to play them free of charge on PS4? I guess I agree to some extent, since Sony has been pretty friendly with the cross-buy in the past few years. As I said, I'll see if they react to this, but it's not really too much of a problem for me to be honest.
TIMtationX
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Not being able to use PS2 discs doesn't bother me... But not being able to carry over the PS2 Classics I've paid for is RIDICULOUS... And Sony just refuses to price old games right... I just don't get it... As many others have said, NO PS2 game should be more than $10...Period.
But I will say that War of the Monsters being on the list is a great thing. Criminally underrated game and I'm STILL waiting on a sequel... I recommend fully to those who've never played it.
But I will say that War of the Monsters being on the list is a great thing. Criminally underrated game and I'm STILL waiting on a sequel... I recommend fully to those who've never played it.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Is fantavision part of the Ps2 games on ps3?
fvng
Member
Of course. If you bought a game they are offering, it should be yours.
Black Republican
Member
do we know what time itll be available?
xKilltheMx
Member
No discount? $15? ... The fuck Sony?
We don't even know if there is or isn't going to be an upgrade option.
Lets wait for 10 am tomorrow.