Sho_Nuff82
Member
Y'all payed $90 and microtransactions to play "the complete MGS5 experience".* The floodgates are open.
* still a work in progress
Final Fantasy VII Remake is a multi-part series
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Y'all payed $90 and microtransactions to play "the complete MGS5 experience".* The floodgates are open.
* still a work in progress
But 13-2 is good.
predictions:
-the complete package will still be on a far smaller scope than the original ff7
-each episode will vary in quality and will be farmed out to various teams
-optional side quests and exploration will be close to non-existent
-no overworld or transition between the locations of each episode
-there will be no finite number of episodes, with various side stories or EU filler being brought in if sales are good
-if sales are bad, the story will be massively abridged with production values significantly dropping
-character progression will only exist on a micro scale, with each episode effectively being mechanically standalone
-the first episode will leave an optimism that the rest will sorely fail to live up to
-the complete package will still be on a far smaller scope than the original ff7
-each episode will vary in quality and will be farmed out to various teams
-optional side quests and exploration will be close to non-existent
-no overworld or transition between the locations of each episode
-there will be no finite number of episodes, with various side stories or EU filler being brought in if sales are good
-if sales are bad, the story will be massively abridged with production values significantly dropping
-character progression will only exist on a micro scale, with each episode effectively being mechanically standalone
-the first episode will leave an optimism that the rest will sorely fail to live up to
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Thank you mods for the thread title change. Things are now much clearer and will lead to hopefully fewer kneejerk reactions.
The WSJ's report makes me feel a lot more comfortable with the idea, and whatever the case, I definitely don't think this'll be "episodic" in the sense of Life is Strange and whatnot.
Sounds to me like it's just a big game being spread across multiple releases.
The WSJ's report makes me feel a lot more comfortable with the idea, and whatever the case, I definitely don't think this'll be "episodic" in the sense of Life is Strange and whatnot.
Sounds to me like it's just a big game being spread across multiple releases.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
That's fine with me. Canada's prices are basically like that now
When do you guys think the entire thing will be done?
December 2019? At the earliest...
There's no way that Remake will have as much gameplay depth (materia system, number of summons, items, side quests, one-off events like Fort Condor, etc) as the original. I'd love to be wrong though.
somecrazymember
Banned
People still dont understand the scope of the full game in 3D of today. Most towns in this game was just 1 big drawing and you ran on top of it. now every house needs to be modeled etc.
Mushroomer25
Member
Depends how you want to read the term 'multi-part series'. Maybe that means one $60 game divided into smaller parts. Maybe that means multiple $60 games covering the original story. Maybe that means multiple smaller-scale games that cover the same story, but change between episodes.
Or hell, maybe it's a whole new business & release model.
Personally, I'm gambling on SE just making a franchise of this. Multiple $60 releases every few years that dive deep into individual sections, and maybe link up in the grand scheme to make one experience that could never work as a singular retail release.
Napalm_Frank
Member
I wouldn't worry too much. Nomura is known for directing episodic classics such as Kingdom Hearts: Coded
7DollarHagane
Banned
I'm OK with this. You could really just take the structure of something like ff13 and turn it into ff7 as a remake if you added some simplified world map mode that works just like the original did. Dungeons and towns in nice 3d with lots of invisible walls.
twisted h3art
Member
I'd be cool with a FF9 RemakeFF8 Remake incoming in the same format.
888
Member
I can't help but laugh at this. So many dreams crushed.
Square is a shadow of its former self anymore.
Excuse me while I grab my Vita to play the original.
If they are going this route. They need to have all parts released in a year but given the scale of the original game and if they keep all of the content it feels like multiple game releases across several years.
Square is a shadow of its former self anymore.
Excuse me while I grab my Vita to play the original.
If they are going this route. They need to have all parts released in a year but given the scale of the original game and if they keep all of the content it feels like multiple game releases across several years.
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
Nomura is reading this thread and the bad reactions from everyone on Reddit, Facebook, gamefaqs and will probably throw the episodes idea away and will make a normal remake. No problem everyone, its going back the original idea of just a remake, because Nomura reads GAF and he agrees with almost everyone here.
texhnolyze
Banned
It is a big deal.
With the game being episodic, we fear the we won't be able to see the overworld. It'll be more linear as you won't be able to go back to the previous episodes/parts. As the press release said, each part will be a unique experience.
I don't get people who are fine with this.
OrbitalBeard
Member
For a game like this, it could be a pretty big deal. But without more details, it's tough to say.
diamond_is_not_crash
Unconfirmed Member
I can get the fear, I just don't know what evidence we have that supports that. The game world is so huge and amount of content in that game is incredibly staggering. The idea of all of that being brought into a modern game in the one title seems almost insane.
It begins.
Imagine all those blu-ray discs with all that uncompressed audio and 8K textures.
It was predestined.
Yup, it explains why they had that much to show.
Manus
Member
Have you not seen games like Arkam Knight, Witcher 3, and GTA 5? It's totally doable.
KZXcellent
Member
I look forward to this actually being really good and all the overreaction in this thread is just that.
Either way, you'd still have to wait 6+ years to play the full thing. Nothing has changed.
DangerMouse
Member
Final Fantasy VII via Uncharted.
lmaoFinal fantasy fans right now
entremet
Member
Pretty solid.
sunshine and gasoline
Banned
Ugh. Wasn't expecting this remake to be episodic. There goes much of my interest in this.
plutoknight
Member
They'll be $60 and you'll like it!
Honestly, I think the .hack approach might be what's happening here. $50 or $60 dollar episodes, ~20-25 hours or so each. Save files transfer between games (or it starts you with a base character at a level appropriate to that part).
That's not really true. Technically, yeah, you can't do a whole planet in modern games in the kind of 1:1 scale that a lot of RPGs go for, but when you consider the fact that a big "city" in a game like FFVII is, like, 3-4 pre-rendered screens + the insides of a few houses with very little room for exploration vs. something like Novigrad in The Witcher 3, your complaints kind of falls apart. FFVII offers freedom to choose a location (later on in the game), but those locations themselves are pretty cramped, linear & small in scope. The only city that actually feels big is Midgar and even then you don't really get to explore all that much of it.
I was happy with the remake until I heard this news. I understand that things get to be modernised and changed, that's the point of the remake. And I was pretty happy with the combat I saw so far.
But some things are core to the experience and just shouldn't be changed (eg the music). Completely overhauling the structure of the game goes against its genre. It's like remaking The Thing as a romantic comedy. It just doesn't work.