Final Fantasy 7 Remake: all parts will have the size of a full game
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Cloud Strife
Member
Wait, so they're splitting up the original story or they're adding new games or both?
entremet
Member
They're adding new content. It can easily take up one release.
It's a totally different game. We need to stop to comparing to the PS1 original as they're gonna be 1:1 approximation.
That's not happening.
Mockingbird
Member
I think if they don't do this the game will never release, so good news?
You're Cloud Strife, dammit. Even you don't know?
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
but AC was mostly just fan service. It was serviceable fan service, but it was fan service.
fan service.
Next Year.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
I don't think this can be used as a reason for this approach anymore since they're saying each part is gonna be a full game.
Unless a full game is some super summarized episode.
Just remove him from the Niph incident and I will fell better about his inclusion if he is in....
Still won't like him
Yeah. I'm really digging that idea the more I think about it.
A big game that fleshes out one of the most iconic settings in the series. I'm so down for that.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Only if he has to fight GILGAMESH. And GILGAMESH wins.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
I'll also take one Final Fantasy VII: Netflix Original Series, please
dickroach
Member
so the game "parts" can't just follow the discs. a full game can't end how disc 1 ends.
I think it should go something like:
Part I:
Midgar (introduction, get's the ball rolling, huge. get Cloud, Barret, Tifa, Aeris, Red)
Kalm (introduction to the world map, backstory)
Junon (a little bit of Shinra story)
Costa Del Sol (bright little place after the first 3 drab cities)
Corel (Barret Backstory)
Gold Saucer (huge sprawling theme park that you can spend hours fucking around in, get Cait Sith)
Gongaga (a random town? nah, some backstory about Zack and some important story-driving Shinra stuff. oh and throw acquring Yuffie somewhere on the path to Gongaga too)
Part II:
Cosmo Canyon (re-establish story; learn about pivotal info like the Lifesteam, etc. perfect place to start pt 2)
Nibelheim (the fuck is happening? this town's burned down. get Vincent)
Rocket Town (Shinra sucks. get Cid.)
Temple of the Ancient (Cloud goes crazy #1)
Forgotten City(some important story stuff. I forget what happens here)
Icicle Inn (some backstory on the Ancients, etc.)
Gaea's Cliff/Crater (Cloud goes crazy #2)
Part III:
Wake up prisoner in Junon (get your party back, get the airship)
Mideel (find Cloud and just put that part where he "find himself" here as well. no reason not to. introduction of Weapon)
Scavenge the world for the Huge Materia (this part could be huge and crazy, or they could just contain it to going back to Corel, Condor, Rocket Town, and hitting up the Underwater Reactor. get Submarine)
Wutai (gotta shoehorn it in somewhere? and now that you've got the Leviathan Scales...)
Gelnika (final battle with the Turks?)
Return to Midgar (kill Hojo and the rest of Shinra)
Crater (kill Sephiroth)
I think it should go something like:
Part I:
Midgar (introduction, get's the ball rolling, huge. get Cloud, Barret, Tifa, Aeris, Red)
Kalm (introduction to the world map, backstory)
Junon (a little bit of Shinra story)
Costa Del Sol (bright little place after the first 3 drab cities)
Corel (Barret Backstory)
Gold Saucer (huge sprawling theme park that you can spend hours fucking around in, get Cait Sith)
Gongaga (a random town? nah, some backstory about Zack and some important story-driving Shinra stuff. oh and throw acquring Yuffie somewhere on the path to Gongaga too)
Part II:
Cosmo Canyon (re-establish story; learn about pivotal info like the Lifesteam, etc. perfect place to start pt 2)
Nibelheim (the fuck is happening? this town's burned down. get Vincent)
Rocket Town (Shinra sucks. get Cid.)
Temple of the Ancient (Cloud goes crazy #1)
Forgotten City(some important story stuff. I forget what happens here)
Icicle Inn (some backstory on the Ancients, etc.)
Gaea's Cliff/Crater (Cloud goes crazy #2)
Part III:
Wake up prisoner in Junon (get your party back, get the airship)
Mideel (find Cloud and just put that part where he "find himself" here as well. no reason not to. introduction of Weapon)
Scavenge the world for the Huge Materia (this part could be huge and crazy, or they could just contain it to going back to Corel, Condor, Rocket Town, and hitting up the Underwater Reactor. get Submarine)
Wutai (gotta shoehorn it in somewhere? and now that you've got the Leviathan Scales...)
Gelnika (final battle with the Turks?)
Return to Midgar (kill Hojo and the rest of Shinra)
Crater (kill Sephiroth)
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Yeah, the areas in FFVII can be fleshed out even further if they wanted, they can certainly build off it.
You put it into words better than I could. I had such reservations with what they could do. This standard seems to be SE inability to handle things, their D&R to Luminous engine was a mess, Versus XIII was in pre-production hell for an entire generation before being reposed in to XV, etc. Unreal Engine 4 really came at the right needed time to ease development for SE.
UltimaPooh
Member
Probably 30ish hours of gameplay, not including side quests time, each.
Totallying the 80 to 90 that was the original.
Totallying the 80 to 90 that was the original.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
In terms of marketing it means that previous areas will be expanded so that rather than one 60-hour game, it is now split into three 60-hour games.
Whether that's just what they're trying to portray it as and not likely or it's genuinely realistic goal is different matter haha. Could end up being three 25-hour games that are too light or even three 80-hour games that are stretched and milked too much. Who knows and trying to conclude whether or not it's good or stupid at this point is fruitless =p
All we can be sure is that they say they will try produce each chapter game as a fully-produced game, and anything else is just kinda guessing hehehe
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Asking questions is fine. From what I can see, these threads appear to contain more declarative statements than anything. Particularly funny when you think that we know less than they do about the project.
AuthenticM
Member
Ok, the three-episode deal seems realistic now.
Episode 1: all of Midgar, the game ending with this shot:
Episode 2: from the end of ep.1 to the end of disc 1 of the original game. This episode is the dark middle chapter of the saga.
Episode 3: the rest of the game.
Episode 1: all of Midgar, the game ending with this shot:
Episode 3: the rest of the game.
Astral Dog
Member
Damn, they are really investing on this REmake, it has to be perfect.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
I'm into it! seems late for Wutai though.
No, i think it'll be pretty huge on its own though and take up a big portion of the game.
I'm just using it as an example that shows that the game can be lengthened and stretched out to include more content in a 3D environment playing to today's strengths while also having the same basic story arc.
Change it up a little so that each ending has a good break off point and conclusion and your basically set.
I really hope that they stick with an open world across the three games as the fact that it was a single, connected world was really important to me. I don't want to be faced with with being told that I can't go back to a certain place because it's in the other part of the collection.
I really don't completely separate games.
I'm still not completely bothered about this, the announcement of the PC version being released on the PS4 was far more interesting to me. I'm about ten hours into that now.
I really don't completely separate games.
I'm still not completely bothered about this, the announcement of the PC version being released on the PS4 was far more interesting to me. I'm about ten hours into that now.
I like it, dickroach. I like it a lot.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
It really says something that I genuinely don't remember Gongaga. I know for a fact I visited when I played the game since I recognise the name, but unlike every other location, I just can't describe it at all.
But yeah, your idea for disc 3 is perfect, and I don't object much to disc 2 at all. The only thing I would maybe suggest is moving Wutai to end of disc 1. It's a nice, climactic-feeling part of the story that's good to get out of the way early before stuff gets really dark and serious.
Or wait, don't you need the tiny bronco for that? Hmm, that'd mean moving some stuff from your disc 2 up as well.
Ah well. The basic gist is, I like it.
Astral Dog
Member
My predictions:
FFVIIR-1
FFVIIR-2
FFVIIR-3
FVIIR-4 Bonus Episode
$60 for each part, releasing around 18 months to 2 years apart. This game will see through the entire generation of PS4.
And beyond!
The problem with the FFXIII example is that each release was a stand alone game and XP, Weapons, Magic etc didn't carry over. I would hate this to happen with FFVII as it would become very linear and SE would likely want consumers to be able to jump in at any point.
FFVII, was mostly pretty linear for the first 2/3 of the game anyway, so I'm hoping they release a massive base game with two large $30-40 expansions. This will allow for the base game to be expanded on (and keeping XP/Materia/Weapons accross each release) all while restricting world movement (buggy, chocobo type) with free movement (airship) not coming until the final expansion release.
This way, an over world map can happily sit on the base game files, while later-game towns and dungeons come with the expansion.
FFVII, was mostly pretty linear for the first 2/3 of the game anyway, so I'm hoping they release a massive base game with two large $30-40 expansions. This will allow for the base game to be expanded on (and keeping XP/Materia/Weapons accross each release) all while restricting world movement (buggy, chocobo type) with free movement (airship) not coming until the final expansion release.
This way, an over world map can happily sit on the base game files, while later-game towns and dungeons come with the expansion.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
As much content as a full JRPG? Or as much content as a AAA action game?
Dwight Schrute
Member
family_guy
Member
I'm guess there will be no FFXVI for at least 15 years.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
They arent going to charge 60 dollars for a 5-10 hour JRPG.
This game started development in the summer 2014, it probably wont come out until 2017. That's plenty of time to put out a beefy amount of content.
I was reading this post and I was thinking to myself how weird this is all going to be in terms of spoilers. Like this is a mini plot synopsis and I have no issue with it being up front and bare like that but then this is a "new" game so some people will yell about spoilers but then it's FFVII to which I feel like most gamer's at least know the main plot points from.
I don't know where I was rambling with this, I look forward to watching both sides of spoiler alley yell at each other for years and years to come.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I can agree on that. Read some pretty hyperbolic shit lately on GAF.
UberTag
Member
I will grudgingly accept the shoehorning in of Genesis provided that it ALSO results in the shoehorning in of Cissnei.
Why wouldn't they charge $60 for a 5-10 hour JRPG? It's Final Fantasy VII. People would pay $60 for 5-10 hour bite-size chunks of that game.
JRPG's seem to be getting smaller, so if they can make a 40 hour game out of one part of the game, and 45 hours out of another part and 50 hours of another part ect, i'll consider that smart investment considering current games.
Gunslinger
Member
Woooooo 180 dollars for full games now amazing!!!!!!
Sad thing is judging by some defenders of this idea here at neogaf people will support this kind of malicious practice.....
/sigh.....
But its their money they can do whatever the heck they want.
Sad thing is judging by some defenders of this idea here at neogaf people will support this kind of malicious practice.....
/sigh.....
But its their money they can do whatever the heck they want.
The way I see it, it's just PR talk.
Like each chapter of an Uncharted game could be called a unique experience. You are not getting the same cutscenes, you are not getting the same dialogue, you are getting different environments. Each chapter itself is a unique experience.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I need to replay Crisis Core again just to see why people hate Genesis again.
Also, what if one game is you play as Sephiroth?
Also, what if one game is you play as Sephiroth?
Hmmmmmmmm.
I'll be curious to see where
Aerith's death
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
My comparison was an exaggeration. I mean is it going to be super short by JRPG standards.
This is what I'm hoping for. Even 30-40 hours each with non-linear design (relative to the original) would be fine.
AntiFacebook
Member
So...one part?
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Works for me. Not close to bad enough to justify the meltdowns we were seeing yesterday. If it's really the size of a full game, then good. Hopefully this doesn't turn out to be hyperbole.
There's literally no winning move SE can make with this. Someone's going to be pissed off at he end and yet those angry few are still going to be overshadowed the sheer amount of people frothing at the mouth waiting to throw down cash at whatever this is in whatever form they decide.
meanspartan
Member
And the Square apologists will continue to pretend that this is totally good news and exactly what they wanted instead of a single release remake.