RevolverRoden
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I didn't have a problem with CC. Or Genesis even really. But what I had a problem with was this scene in particular:
https://youtu.be/DliC36kwzrc?t=3m34s
They had to ruin the original scene by throwing in Genesis.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake: all parts will have the size of a full game
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https://youtu.be/DliC36kwzrc?t=3m34s
They had to ruin the original scene by throwing in Genesis.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Do you want to see people making the same old jokes of release date in every FFVII thread? Every XV thread is derailed just due to this crap.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
I think we'd be milked even harder if the remake came out on one $60 disc and had less than half the original game's content.
I can tell you six.
1.) The very concept of everyone and their mothers sprouting angel wings
2.) The idea that what we see of the Nibel Reactor was irrelevant next to the DBZ fight occurring outside
3.) Zack's death sequence, overblown and J-Rock-y and utterly lacking the simple, soberingly abrupt finality of the original depiction
4.) The overall level design
5.) Most of the remixes of classic tunes
6.) Worst of all, the Dissidia-lite incessantly buzzword-y nature of the script, with its hundreds of instances of "hero" and half a dozen other overused words
Genesis is a bad character, but I simply don't like the game. He is one component of the many components I didn't personally care for, and he does not overshadow the rest as this Ultimate Pool of All Things Wrong With Compilation for me like he does for others.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Vincent's backstory with Lucretia was pretty badass. Gimme some of dat expostion son
CC is almost a guarantee. I believe the devs were quoted as wanting to bring in more Zack at one point. Genesis is too important not to be added, regardless of whether you personally like him or not. Unless Gackt prevents it from happening for some reason.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Why lol at people making that comparison?
I haven't played ff7 and as the witcher 3 is the largest scale game I've played recently i felt it was a fair metric for comparison.
Is this not a platform for discussion? Don't see the need to ridicule posts.
gundamkyoukai
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ArkhamFantasy
Member
Why dont they just shit this game out then? You aren't making any sense. Why not chop up XV and sell it as DLC? Why not add microtransactions?
Are you sure its not possible that you are dramatically underestimating the scope of this project?
KZXcellent
Member
Genesis basically photobombed that cutscene.
RevolverRoden
Member
Forgot about this garbage too.
lol
Some people have played both. Hence the ridicule for people that make the comparison.
Those same people must think that game development is some fantasy land where the videogame Umpa Loompas crank out volumes of content at ease.
KZXcellent
Member
Angeal was cool though.
I'm still waiting for the next FFVII game that has Weiss the Immaculate and Genesis teaming up.
and I'll be waiting for the next 10,000 years
They probably won't reference him at that particular juncture, but his role will still be there i'm guessing.
The lore itself i actually thought was interesting...but the gameplay of dirge i could have easily done without. They should have made it a completely different game without the focus on Vincent for one thing
DarkLordMalik
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RevolverRoden
Member
Praying for this to happen.
Matrix XII
Member
It seems like to me, that most are ready to defend this practice because they'll do anything to get this game. They also want the game quickly and are impatient and more willing to accept this piece meal crap.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
It depends on how big of a scale and scope you are expecting from the game. If we were envisioning something with the scale of Xenoblade X, and assuming that Midgar is as big as New Los Angeles, then the entirety of Final Fantasy VII's map is at the very least three times larger than Xenoblade X's. And in terms of story content, Final Fantasy VII beat Xenoblade X easily.
Haha, no worries. I'm pretty accustomed to some folks raising a brow at my opinion on that scene in particular.
DangerMouse
Member
Yup, so far the new S-E President seems to get it, and has been green-lighting a lot of very promising looking big console stuff for PS4 to compliment their mobile stuff despite Japan's obsession with mobile.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Or maybe some of us understand how long and how much money it would take to make FFVII to current standards .
Truth is it really depends on the scale and scope they going for .
KZXcellent
Member
Project Setsuna, KH3, FFXV (actually happening), FFVII:R, NIER 2 and Dragon's Quest actually coming to the West again. They're on it now.
DangerMouse
Member
Yup. Love it. Star Ocean 5 too.
Matrix XII
Member
Yeah exactly, it's patience, and people don't have it.
I agree that the game should have ended right after Cloud screams, just put it to black and have the credits roll. Everything else after that was pretty ham fisted..
But besides that, i didn't see anything overtly offensive about what you describe there.
I mean complaining about the music when Ishimoto actually did a damn good job is ridiculous and pedantic IMO.
KZXcellent
Member
SEE. It's so good I forgot some.
Trigonometrize.
Member
You could level this at any series of games ever. No, I don't want to wait six, seven years for Naughty Dog to put out their new Uncharted game when they easily work as a trilogy.
Icyflamez96
Member
Only thing I don't like about this is that we might not ever be able to play the remake as one big thing. Seems like it's possible that the levels and stuff might reset for each part (depending on how they go through with this). I hope they try to keep it uniform in that regard.
And I hope they don't cater for people who might want to just jump into part 2 for whatever reason without having played part 1, because they'd have to shaft those (weird) people to make make it all connected as such.
And I hope they don't cater for people who might want to just jump into part 2 for whatever reason without having played part 1, because they'd have to shaft those (weird) people to make make it all connected as such.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Patience don't have much to do with it .
If SE feel they can't make back there money without making the game more than one part .
Then we won't have it at all .
ArkhamFantasy
Member
SE isnt doing this just to get it out quicker, they are doing it because its the only way to make it financially viable.
They could have half assed a remake and cut out a bunch of content for 60 dollars but thats not what they wanted to do and its not what people wanted.
I'm sure it'll be easy to simply bring over your progress via saved data if there's some sort of system in place. They did the same with Mass effect and other games like The walking dead where you choices matter.
Matrix XII
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Mobius and pet octopus
Member
If you're obsessed with how much you pay, maybe find a different hobby. Or wait for a sale. I don't think pricing is a concern for most people. I think the concern is that the chunks of gameplay won't be satisfying. Value can be assessed individually. Neither can really be determined until it releases.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Miyamoto quote, rushed game etc.
You'll have to pay for DLC to remove Lightning's outfit from every individual character.
I just can't see an "entire" rpg taking place in what at the end of the day is still just a single town. Sure theres the whole lower/upper pizza crust split but thats nowhere near the "full-size" game they're on about. The only "dungeons" are 2 reactors and the Shinra HQ. Plus tiny bits of sewers an the train graveyard. That really doesn't sound like much of an rpg at that point unless ya wanna compare it to the very first iteration of say PSO. Besides how much extra content can they toss in without throwing off the entire flow of the story? Midgars pretty tightly paced going from event to event after all.
Icyflamez96
Member
But my thing is, I'd want to be able to continue into the next parts with whatever exp, items, skills and whatnot I accumulated at part 1. If they did that, it would be basically impossible for someone to just jump into part 2 because all of the enemies would be scaled assuming you've level up from part 1. Mass Effect wouldn't work as a direct comparison here I don't think.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Yes, why do you think they didnt do this 10 years ago when people were begging for it and why do you think they are only selling XV for 60 dollars?
Erm, I'm sorry if you find my... taste... ridiculous and pedantic. I never claimed it's objectively bad, just that I didn't care for it. X_x
gundamkyoukai
Member
Having this with the scope , scale and GFX of FFXV is what i want .
One thing for certain that would not be cheap when you add in everything else.
*shrug* it is costume.
My issues are with Lightning, not what she wears. Let everybody wear those ridiculous clothes.
Atleast Yoshida can understand.
Wait so is this confirmation that the game is indeed episodic as opposed to a multi part series ?
dodgykebaab
Banned
Spoiler warning:
Aeris doesn't die in the remake.
-You saw it on GAF first.-
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Also don't worry that it's being split up over parts. The remake is actually going to be bigger than the PS1 game. You can explore places and do things you couldn't before.
Source: http://gematsu.com/2015/12/final-fa...part-release-cyberconnect2-collaboration-more
Aeris doesn't die in the remake.
-You saw it on GAF first.-
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Also don't worry that it's being split up over parts. The remake is actually going to be bigger than the PS1 game. You can explore places and do things you couldn't before.
Source: http://gematsu.com/2015/12/final-fa...part-release-cyberconnect2-collaboration-more
KZXcellent
Member
Nope. He was answering a question. I don't think he pays too much attention to people calling it multi-part and episodes.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Each part will be "full sized" which means it'll be full-priced.
Can't wait for the last piece FF7-Prequel_Final^^Part3_Salamander-Ultra to skip PS4/X1 and launch on next gen in 2022.
Can't wait for the last piece FF7-Prequel_Final^^Part3_Salamander-Ultra to skip PS4/X1 and launch on next gen in 2022.
Speaking of ridiculous clothes, everyones Shinra MP / Sailor costumes better be useable throughout the whole game once ya get 'em. Complete with Red XIII clumsily standing upright on two legs even in battle!
KZXcellent
Member
The people who shitpost about 2026 release dates will just shitpost about "You're not playing the TRUE game" because it's in parts.
anothertech
Member
First off, I can't see them cutting things like snow boarding, Chocabo racing and the motorcycle ride parts. Those are pretty iconic. I can see them expanding in those really.
Also the air ship is such a huge part of the game, it will be in there mark my words. Whether we get to control it in real time is kind of questionable. But I could see them easily making a mini game out of it for location traversal. Like a digital console version of the overworld when you want to fast travel.
Also, the fact they are making more than one to me screams 'they want to do this right' rather than not. Making just one with 'huge cuts' would be the lazy version guys.
Also the air ship is such a huge part of the game, it will be in there mark my words. Whether we get to control it in real time is kind of questionable. But I could see them easily making a mini game out of it for location traversal. Like a digital console version of the overworld when you want to fast travel.
Also, the fact they are making more than one to me screams 'they want to do this right' rather than not. Making just one with 'huge cuts' would be the lazy version guys.