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And Goku gets beat and gets some super special training/power up is every Goku story.
Vegeta becomes super powerful and to prove how strong he is lets the villain get stronger is his story in neary every arc.
Etc.
Crimsonlink
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This always bugged me but I decided to voice it now. I hate how 1 VA voices all 3 male Son characters. They could pass it off with Goku and Goten but Gohan sounds too much like Goku minus the country dialect. It just annoys me that Toei was being cheap with not hiring another VA for Gohan. :x
But whatever boost Gohan gets, he still has to get one-shotted (or just beat soundly) by level 1 Frieza. So....does it matter?
Unless they decide to change from the movie/manga completely which I doubt. Gohan has to lose and Goku/Vegeta come. That won't change, so gohan is still meaningless. sigh
Unless they decide to change from the movie/manga completely which I doubt. Gohan has to lose and Goku/Vegeta come. That won't change, so gohan is still meaningless. sigh
Cheap? Masako Nozawa is not cheap and she voiced all three of them since the begining. You cannot just change a voice actor in Japan.
He did a headbutt to the balls and then unfused.
biggkidd32
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He could have at least forced a transformation or two.
He should fuse with Piccolo.
LordOfChaos
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Ocarina_117
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Would be cool if the Gohan transformation is quite O.P. However he doesn't have the stamina to maintain it due to lack of training
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
This bugs the hell out of me too. Dub Gohan of all ages is superior in every way and I almost never say that about a dubbed character, in anything.
super saiyan with green hair, obviously
I don't know why this makes me laugh so much.
donkey show
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Too OP. Would break all of the universes.
Screw the rules, I have green hair.
Cheap? Masako Nozawa is not cheap and she voiced all three of them since the begining. You cannot just change a voice actor in Japan.
She should have been fired a long time ago.
Dude no.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
The only Japanese actor I actively dislike is King Kai's voice. I feel the life draining out of him with every syllable spoken.
Gohan's voice acting is fine, the casting is the problem.
Gohan's voice acting is fine, the casting is the problem.
Yeah I really hate how Goku Gohan and Goten sound identical. Why don't Vegeta and Trunks sound identical? Even Future Trunks sounds completely different from Vegeta!
First time I watched Dragon Ball subbed, and got to grown up Goku, and he still sounded the same, I wanted to cry. I've gotten used to it at this point, but I'll never get used to Gohan and Goten.
First time I watched Dragon Ball subbed, and got to grown up Goku, and he still sounded the same, I wanted to cry. I've gotten used to it at this point, but I'll never get used to Gohan and Goten.
I know it's the Goku show all the time but I really disliked that in the film to the point where I just started losing interest shortly after and ultimately didn't care about how the film ended. I had other issues but that was the last straw for me I guess with it. I expect a full repeat of that.
You're insane.
I agree
Why? Just because you don't like her performance?
I don't understand people's problem with the Gohan scene. It showed that Freeza's training did make him incredibly stronger and his prowess in being able to one-shot the strongest Z-fighter at the scene
and it showed how much Gohan's ability has degenerated.
(yeah he's the strongest of those, deal with it)
I think it's just massively annoying that a fan favourite character is being completely underutilised. That's been the biggest problem with DBZ as the power creep has kicked in. A lot of the better characters are completely useless against the newer villains. But making Gohan this useless is completely unforgivable considering he was the strongest Z-warrior at the end of both the Cell and Buu saga.
But Gohan has only trained properly for around 4 and a half years of his entire life (counting the hyperbolic time chamber). Dude only got to where he was thanks to his volatile anger, and Old Kai. Considering the time skips present between the end of the Cell Games Saga and now... Dude's been out of practice the longest of all the active fighters.
Like, it's ok. Toriyama seems to want him to move on.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Dragon ball AF was so lazy
That's the whole point of Gohan. That's how he's been written. He doesn't need to train anywhere near as much as anyone else because he far exceeds everyone in terms of latent potential. The need to protect his loved ones is usually enough to bring it out.
But I just think it's poor writing to make him the strongest character at the end of the Buu saga and then to completely waste that by making him a family man even though it's easily written that he could balance both.
I understand Gohan being the way he is makes him the most developed and matured character but no one watches Dragon Ball Z/Super for that. We watch it for the epic fights with our favourite characters.
And we all know that Toriyama is demonstrably a lousy writer now. He constantly forgets about transformations/characters and threw Vegeta under a bus so Goku could get the final hit on Frieza in ROF.
I mean they could just wish her back anyway.
Sibersk Esto
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sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between "bad writing" and "didn't let my favorites win."
It's not unforgivable it's just the story. Gohan isn't underutilized if he's actively involved in a story line and at the moment he is the focus of it.
I think the hurdle for most people is being unable to accept that it's never been good writing. Although it certainly has its moments!
I'd love for Super to up the ante on that, and maybe it will after RoF arc is over. BoG was really well-paced (well, the movie was, anyway) and didn't really have any plot holes or anything, so that's where I'm getting my hope from. But it seems unlikely.
I'd love for Super to up the ante on that, and maybe it will after RoF arc is over. BoG was really well-paced (well, the movie was, anyway) and didn't really have any plot holes or anything, so that's where I'm getting my hope from. But it seems unlikely.
Gohan ain't Goku 2.0. They're really driving that home. Basically, "Chi-Chi was right and Goku was wrong."
Also- RoF was also about Goku learning his lesson about giving bad guys benefit of the doubt. Vegeta also suffered from his own set back - cocky showboating. Weird to say it's lousy writing when Whis made it very clear what their weaknesses were from the beginning (ego and carelessness) and because of them the Earth was initially destroyed.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Debatable. It's not deep but the characters are consistent, the tension believable, and is generally devoid of plot holes. It's a comic, and it tells its story and builds its characters visually better than most.
that's never stopped anyone from getting real angry when someone is hurt/killed by a bad dude!
My ideal scenario for an actual post-End of Z series is one that goes full slice of life and follows Pan and Bra around as they use their incredible genetic strength to play at being magical girls for kicks, while the general insanity that follows their parents and grandparents around keeps happening in the background and they don't even really care.
I think I am at odds with a significant chunk of the Dragon Ball fanbase, though.
Preach.
I would watch this. Seriously.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Surprised this isn't a thing. An ok fan comic at least.
Yeah it is debatable, although there are a million dumb things happening with dragon balls alone, especially throughout Z (OG DB didn't really use them as a plot device as frequently as Z does, and now Super does). Man the amount of times my friend and I have turned to each other as we've rewatched the series over the past few years, confused at how or why something's happening on screen...
I'd also argue that almost none of the characters are all that deep. There are a few, but for the most part, they stick to their pattern pretty rigidly.
I'm much more willing to accept that OG DB had good writing, because, well, it did. But Z goes off the rails way too often for it to be defensible for me.
Yep that sounds like the best idea. You could also bring back the adventurous aspect of DB with this, as they travel around the world.
Nintendoga
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Goten and Trunks' designs are getting ridiculous. It's gonna get to the point where it'll be a year before the Ending of DBZ and they'll still look like they did in the Buu saga.
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