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[ZeroX03]

Hmmm. Third party but sold on the Apple Web Store.

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/12/09/apple-adds-lightning-headphones-store/

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Some of you have become waaay too accustomed to Apple removing ports that every other device has to force you to use their own/buy dongles for what was previously a standard feature. It's bizarre the lengths some of you go in there defense

 

[dantevsninjas]

Further proof that people upset about this possible change are being hyperbolic.

Not really. This isn't a change that would be an improvement. "Well it's old" isn't a reason to change something that works for something that doesn't work any better. Also, not everyone wants to spend $200+ on a pair of headphones.

 

[Couleurs]

Some of you have become waaay too accustomed to Apple removing ports that every other device has to force you to use their own/buy dongles for what was previously a standard feature. It's bizarre the lengths some of you go in there defense

Weird, I don't see a single person defending Apple's decision in the thread, as opposed to thinking it's dumb to cut the jack for thinness when phones are thin enough already.

The closest might be the couple of people who posted in favor of Bluetooth headphones or saying "yeah there will probably be an adaptor". But whatever lets you go for the CRAPPLE $HEEP LOL card, I guess

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Weird, I don't see a single person defending Apple's decision in the thread. The closest might be the couple of people who posted in favor of Bluetooth headphones or saying "yeah there will probably be an adaptor". But whatever lets you go for the CRAPPLE $HEEP LOL card, I guess

Then you didn't go through this thread, plain and simple. And how is saying "yeah there will probably be an adaptor" not defending this? No shit you'll need an adapter for normal headphones. The only reason to bring that up would either be to downplay the removal of the jack as a big deal (i.e. defending) or as a sign of resignation, and I've definitely seen both in here. I'm not saying everyone is here is defending them or even most people, but acting like no one is ludicrous and probably more ridiculous a statement

 

[Battersea Power Station]

Some of you have become waaay too accustomed to Apple removing ports that every other device has to force you to use their own/buy dongles for what was previously a standard feature. It's bizarre the lengths some of you go in there defense

I only own Android devices and I think this is a good move. I wouldn't mind if Google got rid of the headphone jack and just had one USB C port in the next Nexus.

 

[Purkake4]

I only own Android devices and I think this is a good move. I wouldn't mind if Google got rid of the headphone jack and just had one USB C port in the next Nexus.

If everyone came together and decided to use USB C for audio, it would be at least a transition. At the moment it's looking more like carrying around a handful of adapters and/or having your headphones not support device x, y or z.

 

[LyleLanley]

Not really. This isn't a change that would be an improvement. "Well it's old" isn't a reason to change something that works for something that doesn't work any better. Also, not everyone wants to spend $200+ on a pair of headphones.

While it may not have enough advantages to warrant a change there are definitely improvements to be had by switching to lightning.

The Lightning headphones will be capable of receiving lossless stereo 48 kHz digital audio output from Apple devices and sending mono 48 kHz digital audio input. The input means that the headphones will also support a microphone for audio input following Apple’s upcoming update. Manufacturers will be able to take advantage of Apple Headphone Remote controls like Volume Up/Down/etc, as well as other buttons for launching specific apps such as iTunes Radio or initiating playback controls on iOS. In addition, the headphones can be made to work specifically with a companion iOS app and launch a specific app when connected to an iOS device.

There are a few benefits of using the Lightning cable to send audio. Apple says the headphones will be able to draw power from an Apple device (even if the device is asleep), which for some products could eliminate cost associated with an internal battery. It could also work the other way around by providing power to an Apple device from an internal battery or external power source. That enables you to listen to music and also use a passthrough setup so you could charge the device simultaneously, much like you can with an audio dock that uses a Lightning connector. The headphones will also be capable of receiving firmware updates.

 

[D4Danger]

If everyone came together and decided to use USB C for audio, it would be at least a transition. At the moment it's looking more like carrying around a handful of adapters and/or having your headphones not support device x, y or z.

why do we need to transition? changing the connector offers little to nothing. if you don't like the port use bluetooth.

edit: I'm talking about everyone else. If you're in in the Apple ecosystem this far you're probably okay with whatever they do.

 

[Purkake4]

why do we need to transition? changing the connector offers nothing. if you don't like the port use bluetooth.

We don't, I was replying to a specific post. Hypothetically a new standard is better than 3 new propietary ports.

 

[VendettaRed07]

Will either stick with my current phone until they bring it back or switch to an android if they stick with it

Fuck everything about this

 

[Sir Abacus]

There are a couple of advantages to using a Lightning port for audio output.

• You're not limited by the low power codec in the phone allowing you to use 24-bit 192KHz output if you wish.
• You can put 5.1 PCM over the Lightning cable and then use a DSP in the headphones to create a virtual surround soundstage with two drivers.
• Multichannel recording
• Active noise cancellation with no batteries required

I'm not sure if they're really worth the loss of a legacy port as useful as a 3.5mm socket but if Apple is building it into the OS it would definitely be nice additions.

 

[opticalmace]

The headphones will also be capable of receiving firmware updates.

Has science gone too far?

 

[Purkake4]

Has science gone too far?

Looking forward to bricking headphones and getting malware on them.

 

[badcrumble]

Bluetooth headphones that charge my phone when directly plugged in would be neat.

 

[LyleLanley]

Bluetooth headphones that charge my phone when directly plugged in would be neat.

Wouldn't that just make your headphones bigger and heavier?

 

[Jo Shishido's Cheeks]

I use wireless headphones so I'm okay with this.
Bring on the thinner iPhone!