King Gilga
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Honestly I'm surprised that headphone jacks have lasted this long, you'd think that we'd have something better, smaller and more future looking instead by now.
Potential Mega Rumor - Apple to ditch headphone jack & require Lightning for iPhone7
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I just don't understand the thin thing. I don't get what a thinner phone achieves.
I'd love for the next phone to actually be thicker with a bigger battery in it tbh.
nature boy
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Seems likely, it's in Apple's nature to do this and they have Beats headphones to sell.
Has there been precedent of Apple arbitrarily introducing any kind of connector for the sheer sake of going proprietary?
They introduced lightning because USB-C hadn't been around and MicroUSB is a shit connector.
And thunderbolt is more capable in some ways than USB 3.0 / type-C afaik.
If the standard connector serves their requirements, they're fine with adopting the standard, see USB-C on the new MacBook, HDMI and USB 3.0 on Macbook Pros.
I don't see this happening, it'd be in no way a good business idea for Apple. The "3rd party headphone" market isn't as big as it'd be profitable for Apple to do that kind of split, like they did with the "accessories" market.
1) I'd be fine with this if they also shipped a lightning-3.5mm adapter with the phone
2) stop with the thinness already. 6S is plenty thin enough. If you have power savings such that you can get 6S battery life from a 1mm thinner phone, make it 6S size with better battery - you're behind the competition with battery life on the smaller 6/6S.
Let form follow function in this case.
2) stop with the thinness already. 6S is plenty thin enough. If you have power savings such that you can get 6S battery life from a 1mm thinner phone, make it 6S size with better battery - you're behind the competition with battery life on the smaller 6/6S.
Let form follow function in this case.
Is this sarcasm?
In any case, most audio listening hardware out there, headphones, earphones, in ear monitors etc, all use the regular unified 3.5mm jack, so I hate the idea of Apple breaking that up. I'd need an adapter to use my IEM's and that's just stupid.
Side note, phones really don't need to be thinner than a 3.5mm jack.
Little easily lost adapters are not really a more elegant solution.
Why go all fancy and use the Lightning port? If they really want to do this, why not just reengineer the 3.5mm socket into a flatter one, or use the existing 2.5mm one?
The problem with something like this, is that it assumes everyone has one pair of headphones they use all the time. If I'm sitting on the sofa browsing GAF on my phone, and see a youtube clip - I can just grab the nearest pair of headphones to listen. It would be a real PITA to be limited to BT headphones and to have to pair them constantly.
The problem with something like this, is that it assumes everyone has one pair of headphones they use all the time. If I'm sitting on the sofa browsing GAF on my phone, and see a youtube clip - I can just grab the nearest pair of headphones to listen. It would be a real PITA to be limited to BT headphones and to have to pair them constantly.
it's not an elegant solution, just saying you wouldn't have to buy new headphones.
What i'd be much more into would be wireless earbuds that charge via the lightning port (a similar model to how the apple pencil charges)
My main issue with everything wireless is the fact that it's yet another thing i need to remember to keep charged before going on a longer trip.
But you don't need to lose the headphone socket to make it waterproof. Xperia has open headphone and USB sockets and is IP67.
If you wear headphones then moving to BT isn't too bad. They are large enough for decent battery life and the loss of a wire is a benefit, but most people use earbuds, and those will still need a wire between each ear, so all you're saving is the cable down to the phone, and they are small so battery life will be limited.
A removable cable so you can charge them from the phone would help mitigate the shorter battery life, but then you're carrying another cable around with you anyway.
It just feels like limited benefit and too many disadvantages.
If Apple actually gave a shit about BT audio quality they'd have supported aptX in iPhones.
Give me headphones that you don't have to fuck about, charging and syncing any day.
Existing headphones won't just suddenly become useless. They'll have adapters and converter cables.
cheezcake
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Extremely expensive and probably bulky and inconvenient seeing as it would need to house a DAC.
Yeh I don't see this happening either. I'm just surprised some people seem supportive of the idea.
Apple pushing out the 3.5mm would mean a whole lot more headphones will be made with removable cables to people can use audio to Lightning cables without needing adapters. And more headphones with removable cables is a very good thing, because they're always the first thing to go.
These posts annoy me, considering the 6S is actually 0.2mm thicker than the 6 and far harder to bend. Not like the bending problem with the 6 was as widespread as the hysteria.
These posts annoy me, considering the 6S is actually 0.2mm thicker than the 6 and far harder to bend. Not like the bending problem with the 6 was as widespread as the hysteria.
ThatCrazyGuy
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This is how I feel about it. I just want to plug the damn things in when I need them.
badcrumble
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The way the new Mac accessories from Apple automatically pair when you plug them in is pretty sweet. It'd be cool to have the same thing with new standardized Bluetooth headphones.
bodyofanamerican
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Gruber reporting this as rumor on Daring Fireball for the first time today makes me wonder if there's a little more truth to this report than similar ones in the past.
entremet
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Apple doesn't give a fuck about legacy stuff. They've proven that time and time again.
Just give me an adaptor. I do think the current headphone jacks are woefully outdated. Aren't they over 40 years old?
finalflame
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Amen. Interface that has been around for over a century and people are complaining about it being sunseted in favor of something better, with an adapter available for legacy users.
Sheesh.
Daring Fireball made a good point that the depth is a sticking point too, not just width.
Daring Fireball made a good point that the depth is a sticking point too, not just width.
Further proof that people upset about this possible change are being hyperbolic.
Nazgul_Hunter
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if they stayed with your headphones they wou;dn't be as easily lost
Wowfunhappy
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This had better not be true.
Freaking heck Apple.
Freaking heck Apple.
TheSecondSpitter
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There's an old saying: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Jazzy Network
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Has the proprietary input argument risen yet?
univariate
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That was pretty lame.
Except that the reason it would be replaced isn't for higher quality or more features really, it's to shave a completely unnoticeable bit off the phone yet again just so they can claim it's thinner. I'm personally sick of the thinness bullshit because at this point I want more battery.
That's an assumed reason, there's more benefits than just thinness. Which is kind of funny as their latest phone is thicker than the last one anyway.
badcrumble
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yeah, while I'm okay with this move, I need to clarify that I'd want it to be only for improved waterproofing/dustproofing and more room internally for battery, not for the sake of thinness.
Walter White
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But accurate, no doubt.
Because the way Apple sees technology is that it is superior when it's invisible and you're only concious of what you're doing, not the device you're doing it with. And a thinner phone is on that pathway.
But that's the idea that drives smaller and smaller computers. They do this and make it the standard and over time everyone accepts it and moves on. And in the long run it allows more stuff to be crammed into the tiny space.
SolarMystic
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Hmm, so a lightning out amp will be required if I ever go back to ios.
BladeoftheImmortal
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DOn't really care about this change. I can't stand corded headphones. Bought some bluetooth headsets just for this reason. Wires SUUUUUUCK!
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