Dragon Ball Super |OT| 28 Episodes Later

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He mentions Goku surpassing SSJ "as well" with a rather calm and rational attitude, which doesn't seem like something he'd do, if he still couldn't become a SSJ2. He also considers himself stronger than the weakened Gohan.

However, those two are pretty much the only evidence that he had SSJ2 before getting the Majin seal. And the Buu Saga was the same place where Vegeta was saying that he could win the tournament (where #18 and Piccolo were going to fight) without even becoming a SSJ.

The Super Exciting Guide, along with Daizenshuu 7 states Vegeta achieved it through training.
 
man that was rough, after watching ONE the animation of Super. They are saving the animation budget for next episode right?

glad they skipped the Goku will not arrived for awhile
 
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I will make this whole planet suffer
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I will make this whole planet suffer

Oh man, that quote just brought back memories of the Toonami DBZ intro where Frieza exclaims that. Freaking miss racing home from school to catch the newest episode of Dragon...Ball...Z!!!!!

And damn at ruthless Vegeta! Felt like a throwback to his Saiyan Saga days where he was super unpredictable and powerful. I hope this fight with Frieza has some new attacks and stuff that weren't in the movie, sort of like how the fight in space with Beerus had some cooler/flashier moments in it compared to it's respective movie.
 
Remembering the movie after when Goku mentioned not needing Super Sayain; it is really a show of how much Goku and Vegeta have become leagues more powerful than the rest of the Z fighters. First form Frieza was destroying everyone then final form comes and Goku doesn't think he needs to go Super Sayain at all.
man that was rough, after watching ONE the animation of Super. They are saving the animation budget for next episode right?

glad they skipped the Goku will not arrived for awhile

I always watch One Punch Man after Super because of how much better the animation is over this animation.
 
Remembering the movie after when Goku mentioned not needing Super Sayain; it is really a show of how much Goku and Vegeta have become leagues more powerful than the rest of the Z fighters. First form Frieza was destroying everyone then final form comes and Goku doesn't think he needs to go Super Sayain at all.

Toriyama seemed to be moving away from the idea of transforming to power up more and more when he made full power super saiyan. He didn't go through with it but the design of SSJ God being simple shows he hasn't abandoned the idea completely.
 
Fun set up episode, though I was really hoping Vegeta would take on Ginyu the same way he did Pui Pui. A wasted opportunity, but hopefully it was because they were conserving the animation budget for the upcoming fight.
 
Yo yo yo yo.

Remember when I said I was up for making an actual OP for the Dragon Ball series thread? Well, it happened. Check it out. I hope this makes people bring overall series discussion to that thread instead of crowding the Super thread with it instead.
 
Guys...guys...

Manga spoilers:

what if the mystery fighter is Uub

The mystery fighter is someone that Beerus fought hundred years in the past. It's not anyone recent. Besides, they're still pretending to line up with the ending of Z, they wouldn't introduce a change like that which would make the entire final chapter impossible.

They might just make a new version of the final chapters if they intend to go past them.
 
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How long has Goku and Vegeta been at Beerus's place after RoF? Didn't they say the tournament was happening in like a week or something? I don't think Gohan would have time to train enough to get back in good shape if it takes place right after Rof.
 
The moment Episode of Bardock is canon is the moment Dragon Ball Super cannot be redeemed
Don't joke about that guys it's seriously not funny

what if they actually do it
 
He will fucking return.

Or if not, Toei is incompetent for going to such lengths to demonstrate/foreshadow that training is necessary.

Yeah as much as I don't give a shit about Gohan, it's pretty much written on the wall that he's gonna come back in a big way after this...
 
The full scene is so brutal. DB Super is really toned down in comparison.
Never forget Freeza impaling Krillin on his horns and then sadistically flailing him around.

I think they actually removed that scene entirely from the original dub because it was so violent. And then Krillin had this giant unexplained hole in his clothing.

Edit: ^^ Yeah, that 18 scene was intense. Really memorable fight for that reason in particular. Ouch.
 
Never forget Freeza impaling Krillin on his horns and then sadistically flailing him around.

I think they actually removed that scene entirely from the original dub because it was so violent. And then Krillin had this giant unexplained hole in his clothing.

Hmm, I think it was shown, but they might have edited out the blood splashes.
 
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