[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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I know that Kasdan and JJ liked the idea that you could fill in the blanks of what happened between trilogies in your mind.

But it sounds like we're getting basically: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Good thing I've been devouring the novels, comics and short stories then.
 
So no, you haven't seen it.

I have.

There's a trench run in it.



Boyega is damn good. Way more than "competent."

Exactly what I like to hear from reliable gaffers who have seen this movie. Not from people who may or may have not scene the movie, who may just be toying with Finn fans. Although I accepted the fact that his role may not be as prominent as we thought, but we got 2 more films, books, games, and maybe some tv shows in the future to see these characters develop more
 
I know that Kasdan and JJ liked the idea that you could fill in the blanks of what happened between trilogies in your mind.

But it sounds like we're getting basically: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This sounds like exactly what I want. Think about the first time you saw original Star Wars, before the prequels, you didn't know the specifics of The Empire or Vader, but the mystery was part of the fun.
 
Conflicted.

Yay, Rey.

My hopes for Finn though.

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So no, you haven't seen it.

I have.

There's a trench run in it.



Boyega is damn good. Way more than "competent."

Saw the film at a screening today. Not sure why you're claiming I haven't seen it when you were the one saying that the two big bad Force users in the film weren't Sith when they clearly act like it.

Like I said a few posts above, the only point where I can think you might be calling it a trench run is when Poe goes ground level right before heading into the thermal regulator. And that's a very short, incidental sequence. I wouldn't call it a trench run as compared to what we got in IV and VI.

It's also nowhere near the main trench on that planet. The vast majority of the attack is them dive bombing the regulator.

Then again, I'm guessing here because you won't come out and say what part of the film you are referring to.
 
Saw the film at a screening today..

I straight up asked you and you wouldn't answer so I figured you were bullshitting.

Why is this even still being discussed if you saw the damn thing. There's a fuckin' trench run in it. He enters A TRENCH and then flies along the length of it, weaving around structures, laser fire, and even TIE fightes, for about a minute straight, and then tells the rest of his squadron to go high and cover him as he approaches the target at the end of the trench.

You're being weird, Syriel.

Stop being weird.
 
This sounds like exactly what I want. Think about the first time you saw original Star Wars, before the prequels, you didn't know the specifics of The Empire or Vader, but the mystery was part of the fun.

Exactly, probably because everyone is used to (or wants) a shit ton of exposition in their films nowadays.
If you look at ANH, we (the viewer) get dropped into this space opera and don't get to know each characters full background or motivation right from the get-go (or at all).
The Empire is evil, the Rebellion is good.

Heck it's Star Wars, the ultimate Good-vs-Evil story. Bad guys dress in black and have evil Nazi-ish looking army/base/imagery.
A lot of the stuff you saw really enabled your imagination. After seeing it you started fantasizing about Han's smuggling adventures or Luke's training with a light saber.
You thought about what the next Star Wars had in store for you...
 
Interesting distinction with Finn was that the Globe review called him a coward for most of the film. I thought he would be more lost/disillusioned but another poster said something similar. It also said that the movie kinda flip flopped in regards to his character.

So I'm now wondering whether his story beats mostly fall flat.
 
I'm still hyped as hell for The Force Awakens, but I guess I should start focusing my hype at Rogue One and Episode VIII now?

I had certain wishes for The Force Awakens (especially when it comes to the lore-side of things) but is the movie basically just a reset button for the franchise so that people regain faith in it, and Episode VIII and IX are the REAL new movies we've been waiting for?
 
Because I straight up asked you and you wouldn't answer so I figured you were bullshitting.

Why is this even still being discussed if you saw the damn thing. There's a fuckin' trench run in it.

You're being weird, Syriel.

Stop being weird.

If you did, I missed that post.

I figured you were trying to mess w/the folks in here by doubling down on the "no Sith" claim and building up a very short attack sequence (honestly, it looked to me like they were running ground level and not in a defined trench due to the wide camera angle) into the equivalent of the climatic moments from two of the OT films.

Even if it was a below-ground trench (now I will be looking for this on my second viewing) it was so short, I'm still not sure I would call it a trench run.

The downside of taking notes during a review screening.
 
There are no Sith. No one cares if you think they act like it.

Maybe Snoke brings it up in episode 8 now that he thinks Kylo Ren has passed some sort of test. But nothing in episode 7 indicates Snoke is a Sith.
 
Bobby, how was the Williams score?

It was pretty good. Didn't get to listen to the end credits, but there's a lot of non-thematic underscore I liked quite a bit throughout the film's run.

The noticeable quotes aren't leaned on very hard.

Although it does sound to me like they used a recognizable cue from the first Star Wars in a big moment.
 
I had certain wishes for The Force Awakens (especially when it comes to the lore-side of things) but is the movie basically just a reset button for the franchise so that people regain faith in it, and Episode VIII and IX are the REAL new movies we've been waiting for?

That was my feeling walking out of it.
 
I'm still hyped as hell for The Force Awakens, but I guess I should start focusing my hype at Rogue One and Episode VIII now?

I had certain wishes for The Force Awakens (especially when it comes to the lore-side of things) but is the movie basically just a reset button for the franchise so that people regain faith in it, and Episode VIII and IX are the REAL new movies we've been waiting for?

Just watch the movie for yourself. But I think people are asking for a bit too much in wanting to know everything in the first movie. Snoke definitely won't get expanded on until the next movie and it makes sense. They aren't going to blow their load early.

Also anyone who didn't think this movie would hit on old story beats or tug at nostalgia were fooling themselves. Everything from the marketing let you know this and fans have been eating this shit up.

Overall I think it'll work for the movie and people will be all in for the next one.
 
For fuck's sake.

Wasn't he at the top of his class? How the fuck does he end up in sanitation?

He could have easily just started there and referencing that. I think people need to take a step back because I feel people in this thread will walk in the movie with a certain mindset of being upset.
 
This is a trilogy. Why are so many people expecting answers and major bears in film one?

Look at the OT.

We didn't learn of Lukes relationship till the second film. We didn't see Luke have a saber fight till film 2. We didn't know who the Emperor was outside of a random cameo till film 3. We didn't learn who the other Hope was till film 3z
 
For fuck's sake.

Wasn't he at the top of his class? How the fuck does he end up in sanitation?

Maybe that was something he had to do on the side during his training?
And then he showed is aptitude for combat and was put fully into that branch?

I mean, it's not uncommon for military to have to perform non-combat tasks.
If you build a base or something, you might need to have a guy who is trained in how to setup sanitation.

Or also, the First Order is in hiding too, so they might have been short on staff and had to split up menial tasks between personnel?

There are literally tons of reasons for why Finn might know about sanitation.
 
That was my feeling walking out of it.

Well, ok. That's been my feeling about Episode VII for the longest, but got myself hyped up at the last moment, despite that.

Still not disappointed though, and I have to remind myself that there are still 5 Star Wars movies coming out in the next couple of years.

I actually remember the feeling of being very excited for that supposed leaked plot description for Episode VIII, more so than for Episode VII. Kennedy already said that Rian Johnson is doing "crazy" things for Episode VIII, so:

Yaay.

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Just watch the movie for yourself. But I think people are asking for a bit too much in wanting to know everything in the first movie. Snoke definitely won't get expanded on until the next movie and it makes sense. They aren't going to blow their load early.

Also anyone who didn't think this movie would hit on old story beats or tug at nostalgia were fooling themselves. Everything from the marketing let you know this and fans have been eating this shit up.

Overall I think it'll work for the movie and people will be all in for the next one.

Oh yeah. I'm seeing it tomorrow night (live in Mexico) and then again on the weekend on IMAX. And as you say, I think too many people forget that the Emperor gets mentioned just once or twice in ANH and never actually appears.
 
Man, all these impressions of Finn + the rehash talk have me even more disappointed then I thought I'd be. I expected it would be a nostalgia-fest, but it actually happening puts a damper on my excitement. I vastly prefer the setting presented by the PT and Clone Wars, so knowing that it's going to be OT style universe for the foreseeable future in Star Wars stuff has got me down. Not a big fan of the run-down and gritty aesthetic.
 
This is a trilogy. Why are so many people expecting answers and major bears in film one?

Look at the OT.

We didn't learn of Lukes relationship till the second film. We didn't see Luke have a saber fight till film 2. We didn't know who the Emperor was outside of a random cameo till film 3. We didn't learn who the other Hope was till film 3z

Exactly my take on it. It seems people here wanted more exposition to things that won't happen until likely the 2nd or 3rd movie. This is just the intro people.
 
Bobby, how was the Williams score?


I have seen multiple people mention it so far.
How the hell is that the case? When the before the weakening book came out describing he is in the top 1% leading a squad through a training session. Captain Phasma praises him to be Officer Material. Please guys stop buying into some of these trolls. Or if it is true. Than movie and book are talking about 2 different folks. Btw I've only hear this on reddit. Where else have u heard this from cheebo?
 
started from the bottom now we here

So in the trailer when he said "I've been trained to do one thing..." he really meant mopping up shit

Started at the bottom, now we comatose (BTW, if anyone wants to comment on that, I'd like to hear it. Is he legit vegetable mode, or is it more like a breathing apparatus and medical shit keeping him alive?)

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I thought the sanitation thing would be a throwaway line but it ends up actually playing into a moment later on, which was kinda clever.

I heard he threatens to throw Phasma down a garbage chute.

Still, was it cringey at all?
 
Think of how much you know about Palpatine after you saw Empire Strikes Back. How much of the Empires origins you knew when you saw A New Hope.

How much did it bother you? There you go.
 
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