Ziltoidia 9
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That, and how it became night time basically with the star being drained. That whole fight scene "came to be" organically, and it was one of the most interesting parts of the trailer.
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That, and how it became night time basically with the star being drained. That whole fight scene "came to be" organically, and it was one of the most interesting parts of the trailer.
Poe is clearly flying an X-Wing 6S+.
She also had a handmade doll of a blonde X-Wing pilot in her AT-AT home. Unless that's just a coincidence, she's gotta be Luke's kid.
That's what I am getting from it as of now.. Rey's her own person with her own destiny. She beat the shit out of Kylo Ren, the figure attributed to lineage and destiny, based out of her own will and discoveries. But I could always be wrong with the sequel..
friskykillface
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CP3O is Big Boss
dat red arm B^)
dat red arm B^)
entremet
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I meant more the interior.
I hope he's actually a giant.
Anyone else notice that Rey lunges and pokes with the saber a lot?
FlutterPuffs
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Considering he just killed his dad, yes.
Snoke is obviously Plaguies. Everything makes sense so far, we still need answers to Snoke and Rey but I believe they will make sense to, they arent just random people who popped up, its obvious Snoke is Plaguies and Rey is a family member Luke or Leia or possibly Kenobi.Such a thing is unheard of in Star Wars
I don't think Snoke or Ren are Sith, either. I think they're just dark side users, not part of that order.
Fox Mulder
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Maybe one of the little kids luke was training.
Yes, Harrison was on point, I was sort of expecting the lifeless of husk of human he has been for years but vrry glad he wasn't.
serenewarfare
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I feel like they made way too big an issue of her being abandoned and waiting for her parents to return, what with the flashbacks and such, for her parents to just be two random people who abandoned their kid.
yeah, i was thinking that too
He's obviously a zombie Vader. The mask of Vader is melted on the let side just like Snoke's face is damaged on that side.
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I wouldn't say Kyloe was amateur at the end, rather massively unstable, emotionally tarnished and unpolished. He basically just lost it by the end, and became more and more sloppy and frustrated. Not to mention his injuries no doubt affected his fighting ability.
I must praise the sound design of the film, too, which was thankfully back to the quieter more minimalist style of the OT. The damn endless noise of the PT was a real annoyance, everything is constantly whirring and buzzing and going "brrrrr", there's always some stupid droid or probe hovering near characters going "BRZZTRRTR" for no reason and all the evil droids are squeaking in little Jawa voices. I saw AOTC the other day again and Yoda and Windu are just sitting talking at a senate meeting and for no reason there's a CG probe hovering behind Windu's head making annoying beeping noises. Why was that there? What was it doing?
You don't get a pass just from that really cool seismic charge sound effect, PT sound designers. The quiet expanse of Jakku or Hux delivering an echoing speech to a silent army is considerably more palatable.
You don't get a pass just from that really cool seismic charge sound effect, PT sound designers. The quiet expanse of Jakku or Hux delivering an echoing speech to a silent army is considerably more palatable.
OrbitalBeard
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Rey....oh man, such a great character. Loved the movie.
bigwinnerx
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I got emotional at 2 parts:
Chewie hugging Leia at some point near the end (hold off, have to hold it together for 3 more times until Wednesday)
And Chewie helping Rey a bit at the end.
Obviously my emotional conduit to the OT is Chewie.
Chewie hugging Leia at some point near the end (hold off, have to hold it together for 3 more times until Wednesday)
And Chewie helping Rey a bit at the end.
Obviously my emotional conduit to the OT is Chewie.
Just the elder of that village and a Resistance informant I think.
True. It feels like that'd be too far removed for anyone to care though. Unless we got some awesome backstory for her parents/Obi-Wan's kid, it'd just be like "okay... I guess?"
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Ha yeah she was spamming the lunge attack like mad, I noticed that too
Ziltoidia 9
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Maybe Rey is a swerve to make everyone think she is a skywalker. Maybe she is the grandson of someone like Qui-gon? Qui-gon wasn't exactly a rules follower either.
Oh, I lost it when Chewie went balls out crazy after Han died and started shooting everyone left and right.
I just want to add some further thoughts on Rey's character and why I felt disappointing.
As I said before, she just doesn't work as a character because she has no arc, zero. We know next to nothing about her but by the end we just have to accept that she is important. Now, there was a part in the movie I got all hopeful, that I thought, "oh now this could be an interesting turn." It's when they are on that dumb forest planet and Rey has those visions before finally rejecting Luke's lightsaber and running away. Now, at that point I thought her character was going to be setup as an interesting twist on Luke's/the Hero's Journey; that instead of eagerly accepting the Call to Adventure she would reject it.
I thought that could be a cool arc, a character who denies their calling and the path obviously set out for them until it is basically thrust upon them. At which point we could have her dealing with a destiny she had no choice in being a part of. But, we don't really get this and she is just kind of there doing things without any clear motivation.
As I said before, she just doesn't work as a character because she has no arc, zero. We know next to nothing about her but by the end we just have to accept that she is important. Now, there was a part in the movie I got all hopeful, that I thought, "oh now this could be an interesting turn." It's when they are on that dumb forest planet and Rey has those visions before finally rejecting Luke's lightsaber and running away. Now, at that point I thought her character was going to be setup as an interesting twist on Luke's/the Hero's Journey; that instead of eagerly accepting the Call to Adventure she would reject it.
I thought that could be a cool arc, a character who denies their calling and the path obviously set out for them until it is basically thrust upon them. At which point we could have her dealing with a destiny she had no choice in being a part of. But, we don't really get this and she is just kind of there doing things without any clear motivation.
This is my speculation as well.
She was brought to Jakku after Luke disbanded his school/temple following Kylo's revolt.
Her parents might end up mattering, but I think it is more likely that she was an orphan who was being trained by Luke.
Ziltoidia 9
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This is why she is this trilogy's Luke.
BronsonLee
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OK so I want Chewie to just disappear now that Han is gone
He's got nothing left, he's old as fuck
TAKE A SEAT, FURBALL
He's got nothing left, he's old as fuck
TAKE A SEAT, FURBALL
They made a big issue to highlight the yin and yang between her and Kylo Ren. Ren has two parents who are heroes who loved him and raised him and he turns out evil. Rey is abandoned and raises herself and turns out good.
TheOctodad
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I think there will be some more complicated nature to Rey than just "she's the child of Luke!"
There's 30 years of unexplained history with a lot of strange plots that could have taken place. Something Harry Potteresque like the Knights of Ren tried to kill her, but she lived.
Or some sort of last ditch light side suicide (Like Obi-Wan) that imbued her with their collective force power when the Knights of Ren attacked...
I don't know I just feel like there's something more cool there than "she's a daughter" especially since they already played that card.
There's 30 years of unexplained history with a lot of strange plots that could have taken place. Something Harry Potteresque like the Knights of Ren tried to kill her, but she lived.
Or some sort of last ditch light side suicide (Like Obi-Wan) that imbued her with their collective force power when the Knights of Ren attacked...
I don't know I just feel like there's something more cool there than "she's a daughter" especially since they already played that card.
I hope the other directors have as firm a grasp of lightsaber combat as Abrams does because that final duel between Kylo and Rey was sick as hell.
I had just watched some prequel scenes before watching this movie and it's amazing how rote and unfeeling the fights are there compared to what we got in this movie.
I had just watched some prequel scenes before watching this movie and it's amazing how rote and unfeeling the fights are there compared to what we got in this movie.
I would have preferred to have not seen him at all to be honest.
That's what I thought also, but I didn't get the feeling Luke knew her when they meet.
It could be the force that allows her to see the massacre at the temple in the flashback or it could be her. That sequence just isn't good.
Han mentioned that Chewie likes Rey. We also saw him laying some game on that nurse.
Chewie is right where he wants to be.
razzmahtazz
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Anyone else feel that the galaxy felt smaller in this one?
The only thing to know is to keep the story/emotion at the forefront, not the choreography. Once you keep that, the saber fights should be just fine.
SuperBanana
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No way, he's another race. Palpatine is over or at the very most Snoke would have been associated with Palpy in some way.
Assuming Palpatine survived his fate at the end of Return of the Jedi, it's logical to believe he could look a bit more wounded/scarred as a result. They both seem to have the exact same pale skin color. Snoke honestly looks a bit skinnier/more frail, which could simply be an old man aged 30 more years. Snoke seems obsessed with finding Luke as much as Kylo Ren, which makes sense if you assume Palpatine is still angry about Luke resisting him. Snoke seems to also be trying to steer Kylo Ren away from returning to the light, and Palpatine would probably try to do something like that in the wake of Vader turning on him.
He may also poorly trained to some extent (after leaving Luke's temple) if any of my theories/hopes about wth is going on in the First Order are correct.
Dying Of Thirst
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I think she did that because the weapon she started with in the movie was a staff.
I'm glad Rey is the future Jedi. It didn't make sense for it to be Finn. If he was a Force user than surely the First Order would have sniffed him out early for training or whatever.
There were so many awesome call backs to the old movies and even some of the pre-Disney books. Han and Leia's son turning to the Dark Side. Jacen Solo = Ben Solo. The only thing that I did not like about this movie was Han dying but that's just because he's been one my all time favorite SW characters. Makes perfect sense for the movie but damn it still hurt. I love that he was the Obi-wan of the movie. Abrams and Kasdan really did a good job on this, man.
There were so many awesome call backs to the old movies and even some of the pre-Disney books. Han and Leia's son turning to the Dark Side. Jacen Solo = Ben Solo. The only thing that I did not like about this movie was Han dying but that's just because he's been one my all time favorite SW characters. Makes perfect sense for the movie but damn it still hurt. I love that he was the Obi-wan of the movie. Abrams and Kasdan really did a good job on this, man.
BronsonLee
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Yo I am super fucking paranoid that I'm going to click on the OT by accident and just ruin someone's weekend by accident with some dumb ass pun about how Han loves bass jumping
I do too, but I really doubt it. It's pretty clear that we were meant to think that was actually him, but since it ended up being a hologram he's probably around human-sized.
serenewarfare
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Then why not just show Rey's parents or explain that she was abandoned specifically by deadbeat nobodies, if for no other reason than to keep people from speculating something that is much greater and grander than the actual truth? Not talking about who they are is only going to fuel fan speculation and thus cause disappointment if they turn out to be nobodies, and the people making this movie aren't dumb so they know that. They wouldn't create a scenario where they bring backlash upon themselves. They were being intentionally cagey with it.
I swear these two things damn near broke the movie for me. Like, how far into the damn OT trilogy barrel are you going to scrape JJ?
Dying Of Thirst
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lol yeah The millennium falcon moved between planets faster than my drive to the movie theater.
Aside from the heavy handed hinting, R2 comes back online when she shows up. He was waiting for her.
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