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[TangoAlphaLima]

Man I love ROTJ. One of my favorite low-key moments in the franchise is C3PO re-telling Star Wars to the Ewoks.

That is a great moment, after C-3PO repeatedly saying in the prior movies that he wasn't much of a storyteller, then going full bore into his retelling of their adventures to the Ewoks, complete with sound effects and everything.

 

[ghst]

Brick, a great neo-noir, and Looper, a very good time travel action movie. He's an excellent choice.

brick is a wanky teenage livejournal filled with sanctimonious bellends and the napkin looper was plotted on should've been left in starbucks.

he's a an awful choice, but at least his shit ideas will likely have a bit of identity to them.

 

[bobs...onGaf]

I don't know if I'm just a grumpy fuck, but that level of audience participation would have pissed me off no end.

Haha yeah I've been reading posts from people who said that they were sad their audience was lame.

Gotta say I hate when the audience shouts over the movie - really takes you out of the experience and I much prefer sinking into and getting lost into it than cheering and clapping

 

[jett]

So is Finn force-sensitive or not? I mean, I think he is, but they leave it a bit ambiguous.

Nothing about the movie hinted that.

The movie made it clear though that Finn is a master at getting friendzoned.

 

[The Flash]

I wonder how salty George is right now

 

[Sectorseven]

I'm not sure yet if I liked it better than Jedi. Have to see it a few more times.

Jedi has it's problems, but there's a lot of good stuff in there.

 

[rrc1594]

Obi-Wan should have never been his Master. Obi was a dick didn't, believe in Anakin from the jump

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Nothing about the movie hinted that.

The movie made it clear though that Finn is a master at getting friendzoned.

You'd think the First Order would check for force sensitivity when abducting future soldiers.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I knew someone who came out of the movie swearing that Rey is Luke's daughter. While I doubt that because Han and Leia would have known, does anyone else feel that way?

Ton of people.

But we still have mind tricks as a method of using the force to bend someone's mind even if one were to discount the games.

True. I guess it's more like a super-mind-trick? Those are temporary by nature. Putting the whammy on someone for almost 2 decades? That's some SHIT. (that's if Luke actually did do that to Rey)

The movie made it clear though that Finn is a master at getting friendzoned.

Nah.

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

My rankings at least arnt based on how impactful a movie is or anything like that. It is ranked on if I went and sat down and watched the movie right now, how much would I enjoy it.

So pls explain why you think it is better.

 

[Digital-Hero]

ANH is exciting from the first scene till the end with the bonus of being original.

Eh.

ANH (Not exciting scenes)

1. 3P0 and R2 walking the desert.
2. Luke and all the family scenes.
3. Running around the Death Star, not exciting.

It's Alec Guinness and Ford who carry the film.

 

[Patryn]

Kylo reminds me of a young Anakin. Extremely powerful in the force but unstable, fearful, unfocused, and improperly trained. I don't know if he will be redeemed or if I want him to be, but if he does I hope that as of now he doesn't know Vader is his grandfather and that he redeemed himself.

While the film doesn't make it explicit, I think it's abundantly clear that he knows that Vader is his grandfather. The mask, the comment about how Rey's lightsaber is his, etc.

I suspect part of the whole fall to the Dark Side is about him trying to live up to Vader's family legacy.

I wonder how salty George is right now

Didn't he make some comment about how it's the film that people will want? Which I took as a swipe at the fanbase and a way of acknowledging that it's not the Episode VII that he would have made.

If you recall, he wrote broad outlines of what he envisioned Eps. VII, VIII and IX as being. Disney promptly threw them in the trash and started over doing their own thing.

 

[rrc1594]

I wonder how salty George is right now

A billions worth

While the film doesn't make it explicit, I think it's abundantly clear that he knows that Vader is his grandfather. The mask, the comment about how Rey's lightsaber is his, etc.

I suspect part of the whole fall to the Dark Side is about him trying to live up to Vader's family legacy.

That right there, but he should know his grad-daddy turn his back on Dark Side. Which makes me more confused

 

[Skele7on]

Ben Solo-Organa breaks bad and becomes Kylo Ren, at the behest of a still-somewhat-mysterious villain.
As Leia laments, he just had too much Vader in him, which must be a persistent concern for any and all Skywalker offspring.
Which would include Rey (or whatever her name was when she was just another Solo-Organa kid).
Luke, whose training inadvertently caused Kylo Ren to join the Dark Side,
realizes what a potential danger Rey is to everyone around her.
He takes her from her parents — something we see in a very, very brief flashback as young Rey is left on Jakku
Then uses the Force to mind-wipe everybody he can get to, to erase their knowledge of Rey's existence.
Which makes sense to me in a way
Han/Leia's kid
Luke hides here and mind wipes to protect her
yeah that's what I thought
which is why he seemed to look so sad when she turned up
But like "the force guided her here"
"For still yet another, it explains why Kylo Ren — the only character who couldn't have been mind-wiped — seems so fascinated by the person he calls "the girl."
He must know, on some level, who she is. and brother vs sister is more dramatic than fight between cousins

 

[Grover Cleveland]

I wonder how salty George is right now

Not at all. If he wanted to keep making Star Wars movies he wouldn't have sold Lucasfilm.

This way he gets to enjoy this wonderful franchise he created without any of the pressure or stress of living up to the demands of its fanbase.

 

[Maybesew]

Kashykk and Wookies would have been stupid as hell though. Why would the Empire build the shield generator to the new Death Star on a planet full of 8 foot tall dangerous animals that could easily endanger their entire plan to trap the rebels? Instead they built it on a planet full of 3 foot tall teddy bears that they clearly underestimated them.

You mean the species that they enslaved? It would have made total sense when you consider all of the history and lore.

 

[Anton Sugar]

There were just a few moments that I felt didn't need to be in the movie, or felt even a little actively out-of-character/universe.

Han's blind shot to kill a trooper was one of those moments. Just felt a little too cute and not really like anything he's ever done before. Han's never been the Ultimate Bad Ass, as cool as he is. It felt a little weird.

I think you can have a movie with a lot of callbacks and still make the movie good. Jurassic World had a ton of callbacks but the problem was the second half of the movie turns into a really braindead monster movie that does nothing but ride on callbacks. Force Awakens has a ton of callbacks to A New Hope while still remaining its own movie and not going full braindead.

I'm not saying the movie is braindead (I really enjoyed it), but just felt liked I was being elbow-nudged a little too hard at times. They packed as many homages in as they could--that, in combination with the retread of ANH, felt a little tired to me.

 

[Kaibutsu]

So do we know anymore about Supreme Leader Snoke? Do we think he could be a sith that broke the rule of two or just an evil asshole? Loved the movie but damn it just left me wanting more.

The rule of two was broken a long time ago when people like Palpatine started having secret apprentices thus you could even say the sith haven't been a thing for a long time, even with people still taking titles and what not.

 

[Einchy]

ANH is exciting from the first scene till the end with the bonus of being original.

It being the original doesn't make the film better in my eyes, if anything it makes it a bit worse since there's a lot of janky things in ANH since it came out in the 70s. Things that I overlook because I know the movie is old as hell but those things are still there.

If I'm just looking at them as movies and not cultural phenomenons than TFA is just all around better.

It's more emotional, funny, exciting and scary.

 

[Ashhong]

ANH is exciting from the first scene till the end with the bonus of being original.

Man, disagree wholeheartedly.

 

[TheOctodad]

Its just me or there was a waste of characters in this film... or loose ends.


Maz Kanata
Snooky
Lor San Tekka
Captain Phasma

and whats up with the knights of Ren?

A lot of these clearly are being established for future movies.

 

[Fliesen]

I know.

I was like well bye Han.

I knew when i realized that Han Solo was Rey's Ben Kenobi. Which is the moment he tells them about the force and ends up offering her a job.

 

[Blader]

Nothing about the movie hinted that.

The movie made it clear though that Finn is a master at getting friendzoned.

Dat forehead kiss.

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

Honestly Mark Hamill's not far behind him so he could be dead as well. Carrie Fisher's seems the most safe of the three age wise.

Age isn't the only factor, though. Harrison Ford is expensive, Mark Hamill is not. Harrison Ford has had a huge, full career, an absolute legend in Hollywood. Mark Hamill has not. I imagine that Hamill will gladly continue as Luke for years to come if the writers want his character around. I'm a little more dubious of how long Carrie Fisher will want to keep this up.

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

You'd think the First Order would check for force sensitivity when abducting future soldiers.

The most annoying thing for me about the prequels is that the Jedu actively check for force sensitive individuals born within the republic, but didn't identify a certain individual born on Naboo/

 

[Future PhaZe]

I have no shame Episode 3 is my third fav Star Wars.

5>6>3>4>1>2. No shame

I won't rate 7 because to me everything is great in movie theaters.

i actually walked out of AoTC knowing it was a piece of shit

and underwhelmed by TPM


ESB > TFA > ANH >>ROTJ=RotS>>>>TPM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AotC

 

[diaspora]

Ton of people.



True. I guess it's more like a super-mind-trick? Those are temporary by nature. Putting the whammy on someone for almost 2 decades? That's some SHIT. (that's if Luke actually did do that to Rey)



Nah.

I guess, though we've never seen anyone try to use a mind trick for anything other than a simple suggestion. Who the hell knows what can be done with it when using sufficient time and power.

 

[Inferno313]

Didn't he write Looper? If so, that is not a strong script at all. The dialogue was really good though.

Yes it is. It plays with audience expectations and genre in such a delicious way. It also has interesting characters who go through compelling arcs, and world building that is mostly done by showing and not telling. In addition, it's thematically rich, it's essentially a sci-fi action thriller that is ultimately an argument for the necessity of strong parenting.

 

[Seventy_X_Seven]

When people complain about Rey being proficient with a lightsaber right off the bat, ignoring a force power up, are people forgetting she showed god efficiency earlier in the film with another melee stick weapon?

Kylo reminds me of a young Anakin. Extremely powerful in the force but unstable, fearful, unfocused, and improperly trained. I don't know if he will be redeemed or if I want him to be, but if he does I hope that as of now he doesn't know Vader is his grandfather and that he redeemed himself.

Definitely agree he felt a lot like PT Anakin which was definitely intentional. Also, he straight up says "grandfather" when looking at Vader's mask. He was also trained by Luke, so I bet he knows about the redemption.

 

[Sephzilla]

You mean the species that they enslaved? It would have made total sense when you consider all of the history and lore.

The "Wookies were enslaved" stuff was EU only and never conveyed in the movies at all, that's glorified fan fiction. The only Wookie we actually see in the OT is a free one who runs with Han Solo. Plus, enslaved or not, what sounds like a safer plan? Working on a planet with 8 foot tall beasts that hate you because you enslaved them or 3 foot tall teddy bears that generally didn't give a single crap about you until the Rebels showed up.

 

[markhimself46]

Funniest scene in the movie.

Almost on the edge of what you could do humor wise without cheapening the main villain, but it worked..

Really great..

Loved this scene, but I thought the funniest scene was when they capture Phasma and Finn gets right in her face going "I'm in charge now! Me! I'm in charge!" and Han just goes "Ok dial it back."

That and the "that's not how the force works!" line. Man, the chemistry between all the characters in this movie is so great. Bummed we won't be getting anymore Finn/Han banter. RIP.

 

[Calabi]

I doubt it is quicker or cheaper to make.

They had to make a huge hole through the centre of the planet.

Then also make it capable of travelling through hyper space, and also being able to split off and target individual locations.

Well they probably have all the resources on the planet. Logistics wise its a better plan than building a giant space station. You've got to move all that steel into orbit. It has to have a power source. This at least explains where it gets its power from. I think it would be a lot cheaper as long as you have the technology. Re purposing is generally easier than building from scratch.

 

[Skele7on]

I wonder how salty George is right now

 

[BronsonLee]

The "Wookies were enslaved" stuff was EU only and never conveyed in the movies at all, that's glorified fan fiction. The only Wookie we actually see in the OT is a free one who runs with Han Solo.

Well, he's free NOW...

 

[Patryn]

That right there, but he should know his grad-daddy turn his back on Dark Side. Which makes me more confused

My personal guess is that Snoke has been fucking with his mind since he was a little kid. He probably fed him lines about how Vader lost his power and died because he gave up the Dark Side, that he lost the true path and it's up to Kylo to set things right.

 

[Digital-Hero]

Kylo reminds me of a young Anakin. Extremely powerful in the force but unstable, fearful, unfocused, and improperly trained. I don't know if he will be redeemed or if I want him to be, but if he does I hope that as of now he doesn't know Vader is his grandfather and that he redeemed himself.

Uh, he knows. He said "grandfather" in the movie. He may not know the redemption part but that is unlikely. Who knows what Luke told him.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I really liked getting the shots of the planets that were about to be vaporized by the Star Killer. Added some needed weight to those shots.

Ton of people.

I don't think it was a coincidence that Leia and Rey's hug was suuuuper long. Plus, some of the looks Leia gave her. I think Leia knows--maybe not the whole truth, but she can feel something there.

 

[gutter_trash]

anyone who rates ROTS over ROTJ is not a real Star Wars fan

ROTJ has the real Anakin.

ROTS has the fake Anakin.

 

[Maybesew]

was anyone else surprised by all the similarities to episode 4?

droid gets important data
droid stranded on desert planet
droid stumbles into unlikely hero
unlikely hero takes droid off world
important data provided to underdog organization
trench run
big explosion of ultimate weapon

 

[ReplacementPelican]

Where the fuck is this 'romance' angle coming from? There is absolutely none. Yeah, Finn may have a crush on her or vice-versa but it's hardly a romance. They're both probably incredible emotionally stunted and undeveloped when it comes to shit like this so I'm pretty happy where it was left.

Nor is it really important to the story at all. I personally hope there's nothing between them, especially when one of them is learning to be a Jedi.

 

[Shuggananas]

Ben Solo-Organa breaks bad and becomes Kylo Ren, at the behest of a still-somewhat-mysterious villain.
As Leia laments, he just had too much Vader in him, which must be a persistent concern for any and all Skywalker offspring.
Which would include Rey (or whatever her name was when she was just another Solo-Organa kid).
Luke, whose training inadvertently caused Kylo Ren to join the Dark Side,
realizes what a potential danger Rey is to everyone around her.
He takes her from her parents — something we see in a very, very brief flashback as young Rey is left on Jakku
Then uses the Force to mind-wipe everybody he can get to, to erase their knowledge of Rey's existence.
Which makes sense to me in a way
Han/Leia's kid
Luke hides here and mind wipes to protect her
yeah that's what I thought
which is why he seemed to look so sad when she turned up
But like "the force guided her here"
"For still yet another, it explains why Kylo Ren — the only character who couldn't have been mind-wiped — seems so fascinated by the person he calls "the girl."
He must know, on some level, who she is. and brother vs sister is more dramatic than fight between cousins

A hideo kojima movie

 

[Seventy_X_Seven]

The most annoying thing for me about the prequels is that the Jedu actively check for force sensitive individuals born within the republic, but didn't identify a certain individual born on Naboo/

The darkside clouding their judgement.

 

[The Flash]

Not at all. If he wanted to keep making Star Wars movies he wouldn't have sold Lucasfilm.

This way he gets to enjoy this wonderful franchise he created without any of the pressure or stress of living up to the demands of its fanbase.

Yeah that's a good point. I just wonder what he thinks the reaction to VII would've been if he had done it his way.

 

[jett]

Nah.

Kiss to the forehead.

"Friend."

Friendzoned for life. At this rate he has more chances of getting it on with Poe.

 

[Fliesen]

A lot of these clearly are being established for future movies.

I think Luke will be Rey's Yoda, while Maz Tanaka seems to be the 'knows the galaxy inside out, knows cultures, gives life advice' character which Obiwan was.

Lor San Tekka might simply be a 'hook' placed as a connection to some prequel film / tv show / comic book

Captain Phasma will play a bigger role in later parts.

 

[Sephzilla]

The trench run was the only time I thought Force Awakens paralleled A New Hope a little too much.

 

[Patryn]

was anyone else surprised by all the similarities to episode 4?

droid gets important data
droid stranded on desert planet
droid stumbles into unlikely hero
unlikely hero takes droid off world
important data provided to underdog organization
trench run
big explosion of ultimate weapon

Very deliberately done, I believe. They wanted to echo A New Hope and show a return to the "classic" Star Wars.

 

[kirblar]

Rey being a survivor of the Kylo massacre definitely would explain the absurdly quick learning.

 

[Slacker]

Didn't [Rian Johnson]write Looper? If so, that is not a strong script at all. The dialogue was really good though.

Looper was based on a really good book, too. I'm not sure if that makes the movie script more or less disappointing though.

 

[Slaythe]

Yeah, that's the same dude, not sure why the photoshop issue even matters.

When he was cast, people were immediately speculating he was Han Solo's kid because of his resemblance to a young Harrison Ford. Is he a young Harrison Ford double? No, but there's a resemblance there. Not sure how you don't see it.

Corrected facial proportions, fixed jaw line, altered lips shape, clearer eyes, Hair placed over the ears. Surface blur on the skin.
That's the corrections I see on the photoshop cover.

Wow where is the young Ford, I can't tell them apart ...