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[Bobby Roberts]

Interesting notion:

Chewie is Han's best friend.
Kylo is Han & Leia's kid.
No way Chewie wasn't there for Ben's birth.
It seems pretty plausible to me that Chewie probably held that kid shortly after he was born
Probably played with him when he was little.
Probably babysat him from time to time.

Chewie doesn't even fucking BLINK and puts a shot dead into what's more or less his nephew with one of the most OP guns in the film.

Chewie is hardcore.

Also it looks like there was a cut sequence with Unkar Plutt tracking the Falcon to Takodana and Chewie rips his fuckin arm off in the Cantina. It shows up in the novel.

 

[Ithil]

Fuck dude. Can we all just start searching 'HAN SOLO IS FINE EVERYTHINGS FINE HOW ARE YOU?' to trip up the google algorithm?

I just watched ANH the other day again, the little recoil Han does after he says "How are you?" and realises how stupid that sounded is hilarious.

 

[Kagari]

YO JUST REMEMBERED CHEWBACCA GETTING HIT ON BY THAT WOMAN.

HOLY FUCK LOL.

I facepalmed so hard. JJ please.

 

[Future PhaZe]

Fuck dude. Can we all just start searching 'HAN SOLO IS FINE EVERYTHINGS FINE HOW ARE YOU?' to trip up the google algorithm?

to be fair, there's absolutely no reason why anyone should type a star wars characters name prior to seeing the film--we all know how the internet works by now

 

[Patryn]

Why did Finn want to run away to the Outer Rim? I feel like I missed something in that whole bar scene. Why did Rey go to the basement?

He didn't care about the Resistance.

He just wanted to get as far away from The First Order as he could. He knew that they would be hunting him down as a traitor.

The Force directed Rey down the stairs. She heard a girl crying and went looking for that.

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

He's of the Skywalker lineage, but technically he's a Solo.

What if he's a Solo-Organa? Or Organa-Solo? Leia's a progressive woman, after all.

 

[gutter_trash]

I'm so glad that i watched it last night.

The guys going around spoiling the punch in other threads would have made me rage

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

This is 30 years later and we know very little about what happened to Luke. I don't know how you can judge this is "out-of-character" based on the infos we have.

Luke wanted to save his father, yet runs away and hides when his nephew turns to the dark side.

 

[Glass]

Domhnall Gleeson was really disappointing, hammed it up sooo much. The OT officers were snooty English people who believed themselves and the Empire above everyone else. The kind of assholes you know exist. Hux was just Scooby Doo villain quality.

 

[entremet]

Fuck dude. Can we all just start searching 'HAN SOLO IS FINE EVERYTHINGS FINE HOW ARE YOU?' to trip up the google algorithm?

This is why if you're an expert spoiler avoider you do the following:

--Don't go to YT. Trolls in the comment sections of all kinds of video spoil stuff there. Maybe there are browser add-ons that disable comments. Idk.

--Use social media only to broadcast, but don't read any of your feeds.

--Don't go in any SW related threads.

--Don't do any SW related Google searches.

It was pretty easy to avoid them.

 

[emb]

He might have been the villain of this movie but he's not the big bad. Snoke is, and he's manipulating Ren for his own ends.

But he's not the big bad. The evil cloaked guy on a throne he was reporting to throughout the film was the big bad.

Right. That's definitely made clear, and I think it's even shown before the unmask. I still thought of him as the bigger (or at least more direct) threat though, and up until that point thought of Kylo very much as Vader. Snoke/Palpatine will pull the string, while Kylo/Vader will cut you.

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

I facepalmed so hard. JJ please.

There was a Jar Jar fart joke in TPM. A fart joke.

 

[John Harker]

Yeah, I could see this. The problem I see is the timing and what you see in Rey's vision.

It appears Rey is taken from her parents? But she claims she was left. Also, I did not see recognition in her face at the end there. Fear yes, but not recognition. Luke did seem to recognize her though. He actually looked shocked.

I don't think Luke has been gone for more than ten years. Hell, he could have only left two years before the events of the movie. Without knowing exactly when Luke left its hard to speculate on who Rey is.

Yea I was just speculating, but I do think it was laid pretty thick Kylo, Rey and Luke are all related. It's a Skywalker film trilogy and Rey and the grave are our Only implied connections past Luke right now

 

[Anton Sugar]

YO JUST REMEMBERED CHEWBACCA GETTING HIT ON BY THAT WOMAN.

HOLY FUCK LOL.

Loved everything Chewie in this! He had some great reactions and moments.

 

[Mr Cola]

https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/sith-markings.7656/

Interesting, people here are claiming Rey has some tattoos, markings, that are only seen for a split second, they say Sith but who knows.

Would be interesting to get a freeze frame

 

[Ithil]

Right. That's definitely made clear, and I think it's even shown before the unmask. I still thought of him as the bigger (or at least more direct) threat though, and up until that point thought of Kylo very much as Vader. Snoke/Palpatine will pull the string, while Kylo/Vader will cut you.

That's what you're meant to think at first, then it veers off in an unexpected direction.

 

[NimbusD]

I just watched ANH the other day again, the little recoil Han does after he says "How are you?" and realises how stupid that sounded is hilarious.

I was watching behind the scenes stuff. He purposely didn't remember his lines for that part to make it sound stupider too. Great stuff.

 

[Sylas]

YO JUST REMEMBERED CHEWBACCA GETTING HIT ON BY THAT WOMAN.

HOLY FUCK LOL.

I feel immense pity for anyone that thinks, "Uh huh..." "I'm sure it was very scary..." "Oh, you're so brave..." delivered in the vocal equivalent of an eyeroll is flirtatious.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

YO JUST REMEMBERED CHEWBACCA GETTING HIT ON BY THAT WOMAN.

This is why all the "friendzone" talk upthread is weird - there's kind of a disconnect between what the movie is showing and what audiences are interpreting. Rey isn't "friendzoning" (ugh) Finn all movie long. That nurse isn't "hitting on" Chewbacca. She's placating him. It's like a school nurse congratulating a 2nd grader for being a big boy after getting bactine on his knee.

 

[Future PhaZe]

Domhnall Gleeson was really disappointing, hammed it up sooo much. The OT officers were snooty English people who believed themselves and the Empire above everyone else. The kind of assholes you know exist. Hux was just Scooby Doo villain quality.

yea, it was a bit forced for my tastes--gleeson is definitely capable of more subtlety--a very fine actor

 

[OmegaFax]

Whoops.

Edit: Misfired and didn't mean to post.

C-3PO didn't really hit the same marks he did when he was cock blocking Han in Empire Strikes Back. He kept forgetting that Leia wasn't a princess but a general ... and he still called Luke "Master Luke" ... kept wondering how long had gone by from Leia going from princess -> general and how long Luke was gone for.

 

[Kagari]

What if he's a Solo-Organa? Or Organa-Solo? Leia's a progressive woman, after all.

If we're going off the EU it's probably just Ben Solo.

 

[sgjackson]

I thought it was great, but I also totally understand how people thought it calls back too much to the originals and had issues with pacing and some plot holes. My issues were minor - I felt like the giant planet/star laser thing was poorly explained and was just an excuse to have another Death Star/trench run sequence, and Snoke feels like a poorly executed mix of Thanos and Palpatine. The weird thing is, I feel like both of those problems and the minor plot holes could have been rectified with a few extra minutes of expository footage, though. Think they might have been a little overzealous in editing this one.

In general though, I feel like it stuck the landing - it sets up new characters who are charming and fun in different ways than the originals and has a ton of awesome looking practical effects. For the most part the callbacks and nods to the originals weren't too heinous, either.

 

[foxtrot3d]

Why did Finn want to run away to the Outer Rim? I feel like I missed something in that whole bar scene. Why did Rey go to the basement?

You see reading this thread made me misremember and think he wanted to get away from the Outer Rim, but you confirmed I was right he wanted to get to the Outer Rom. But, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the First Order strong within the Outer Rim with the Republic controlling the Core Worlds? Seems kind of dumb for him to want to go to the area controlled by the New Order.

 

[Cybit]

I think if this movie ends up surpassing Titanic and/or Avatar in sales, it'll be tough for him. There's that footage of him (during the filming of Episode I, iirc) saying something along the lines of "well, we'll never beat Titanic. No one will." Think he said it a few times. That seemed to be a big personal goal for him.

honestly - once you factor in inflation - I don't think anything ever beats Gone with the Wind.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

 

[VistraNorrez]

There was a Jar Jar fart joke in TPM. A fart joke.

Let's not forget the Sarlcacc pit burping in RotJ.

 

[timewyrm]

This is 30 years later and we know very little about what happened to Luke. I don't know how you can judge this is "out-of-character" based on the infos we have.

Based on ESB since there's no other information available at the moment.

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

Domhnall Gleeson was really disappointing, hammed it up sooo much. The OT officers were snooty English people who believed themselves and the Empire above everyone else. The kind of assholes you know exist. Hux was just Scooby Doo villain quality.

America needs to learn to get over the idea of the English being the bad guys, have a Londoner lead and force him to be American, destroyed my fragile heart

 

[SpaceHorror]

Loved everything Chewie in this! He had some great reactions and moments.

Best Chewie reaction was when the chess board started up.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Domhnall Gleeson was really disappointing, hammed it up sooo much. The OT officers were snooty English people who believed themselves and the Empire above everyone else. The kind of assholes you know exist. Hux was just Scooby Doo villain quality.

Yeah, I was mixed on him. Thought his battle speech was actually *perfect* but the rest didn't really work for me.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Let's not forget the Sarlcacc pit burping in RotJ.

Rathtar burped up a boot in this movie.

 

[Maybesew]

Domhnall Gleeson was really disappointing, hammed it up sooo much. The OT officers were snooty English people who believed themselves and the Empire above everyone else. The kind of assholes you know exist. Hux was just Scooby Doo villain quality.

I believe their archetype was actually based on apartheid era south african

 

[The Hermit]

What did you guys think of BB8? I was way more into him than I expected to be. I bet those toys will see a second wave of hysteria

best droid

*lighter thumbs up*

 

[NumberThree]

The biggest plot hole in the film is how after all these years this is somehow the first time Han has used Chewie's bowcaster.

 

[NimbusD]

It was obvious Han was going to die the second he walked over to his son on that ominous and bleak walkway. What a great scene though. You knew what Kylo Ren was talking about, you knew what he was going to do, but you still had that hope that might just.. and then nope. It was a great conclusion to Han Solo as a character.

Spoiler

I still want to cry though

Thank you! I hate when people say 'oh you knew it was gonna happen it was bad'. That's what made it great. You knew what was going to happen because it made sense in the story. But they built it properly and it had proper emotional weight. It was a fitting death. It would have sucked if it were unexpected and out of nowhere.

 

[Ithil]

honestly - once you factor in inflation - I don't think anything ever beats Gone with the Wind.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

Gone with the Wind had many re-releases that aren't detailed in that total. Cinema releases worked very differently back then.

 

[Inspector Jones]

Really? Hm. Guess I misinterpreted that. But people saw it as a reaction to something Finn was doing and laughed pretty hard at it.

Yeah no way that was anything then a thumbs up. The whole audience bursted out laughing at that scene. It was really funny.

EDIT: If he didn't trust Finn, he wouldn't have told Rey where there resistance was.

EDIT:

Thank you! I hate when people say 'oh you knew it was gonna happen it was bad'. That's what made it great. You knew what was going to happen because it made sense in the story. But they built it properly and it had proper emotional weight. It was a fitting death. It would have sucked if it were unexpected and out of nowhere.

Agreed. The audience may have saw it coming, but that just means it made sense. The scene was powerful because Han doesn't know what Kylo is going through and truly believes his son can be saved and we as an audience hope that Han will be alright.

 

[orava]

Now i'm going to feel sad every time i watch the original trilogy and han solo is scoundreling around

The character was handled perfectly in this.

 

[foxtrot3d]

The biggest plot hole in the film is how after all these years this is somehow the first time Han has used Chewie's bowcaster.

So I wasn't the only person thinking that.

 

[LegendofLex]

Luke wanted to save his father, yet runs away and hides when his nephew turns to the dark side.

He's probably a big part of what drove his nephew to the dark side in the first place.

He's probably hiding because he wants Rey to find him on her own initiative by following the breadcrumbs he left, so he doesn't make the same mistakes with her that he did with Ben by forcing him into something he clearly wasn't ready for.

The biggest plot hole in the film is how after all these years this is somehow the first time Han has used Chewie's bowcaster.

Yes!

 

[entremet]

The biggest plot hole in the film is how after all these years this is somehow the first time Han has used Chewie's bowcaster.

Not really.

Weapons are very personal things. You just don't use someone else's personal arms.

 

[Fliesen]

This is why all the "friendzone" talk upthread is weird - there's kind of a disconnect between what the movie is showing and what audiences are interpreting. Rey isn't "friendzoning" (ugh) Finn all movie long. That nurse isn't "hitting on" Chewbacca. She's placating him. It's like a school nurse congratulating a 2nd grader for being a big boy after getting bactine on his knee.

aye, people are being really weird. I can't tell if some people in here are seriously that unable to understand what a woman is saying.

Finn isn't friendzoned, he's being treated like a friend.
Similarly, the nurse is just being a nurse. The joke's actually (at least that's how i took it) that she's talking to Chewie - big ass hairy monster who shoots gun - like a child who has an ouchie.

 

[Maybesew]

The biggest plot hole in the film is how after all these years this is somehow the first time Han has used Chewie's bowcaster.

That really threw me off too. lol "I like this thing"

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

Best Chewie reaction was when the chess board started up.

I felt that was so fake, just like the Han crossbow scenes.

 

[borghe]

Yeah, this really bugged me. For being one of the most legendary SW characters ever, the aftermath of his death felt very understated. IDK, just an extended shot of Leia grieving or something to really reinforce how sad this was would have made his death feel a little more real and final I think.

Han and Leia had been apart for many years.. we can possibly even presume 1-2 decades. Nothing about their interactions came off as two people in love with each other.. More like people who had a tremendous amount of love for each other, but had moved on..

Honestly I thought her reaction was pretty spot on. Yeah she lost the love of her life, but at the same time someone she hadn't seen for possibly 10 or more years.

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

If we're going off the EU it's probably just Ben Solo.

The EU is dead.

Let's not forget the Sarlcacc pit burping in RotJ.

True, but that wasn't as egregious as the TPM fart joke, at least in my opinion.

 

[Sectorseven]

I thought Hux was a bit too baby faced to be a general. Maybe as a captain or something, but a general should be more like Veers.

 

[Sylas]

Thank you! I hate when people say 'oh you knew it was gonna happen it was bad'. That's what made it great. You knew what was going to happen because it made sense in the story. But they built it properly and it had proper emotional weight. It was a fitting death. It would have sucked if it were unexpected and out of nowhere.

I was super on board with the cinematography in that scene, too. Kylo being cast in red on one half and blue on the other while his decision remains ambiguous, and once he's "made up his mind" the blue light fades away entirely.

It was cheesey but goddamn did it work.

 

[Skele7on]

I facepalmed so hard. JJ please.

It was great.

Loved everything Chewie in this! He had some great reactions and moments.

He was amazing

This is why all the "friendzone" talk upthread is weird - there's kind of a disconnect between what the movie is showing and what audiences are interpreting. Rey isn't "friendzoning" (ugh) Finn all movie long. That nurse isn't "hitting on" Chewbacca. She's placating him. It's like a school nurse congratulating a 2nd grader for being a big boy after getting bactine on his knee.

Listen "Love Expert" I just saw it that way, Maz CLEARLY wanted him, so there was that. HE WAS HIT ON ONCE DAMNIT

I feel immense pity for anyone that thinks, "Uh huh..." "I'm sure it was very scary..." "Oh, you're so brave..." delivered in the vocal equivalent of an eyeroll is flirtatious.

Well having a girl friend for ages means my "flirting" radar is not working great. I still think she was though.

 

[Maybesew]

What does EU stand for?