[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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One reference that they COMPLETELY missed out on that would have been perfect:

When Han dies and Leia gets the wind knocked out of her, they should have had 3PO ask her what's wrong, and she should have responded "I sense a disturbance in the force."

Nah, that would have been stupid. You could already see in her eyes that she knew and felt what had happened. Showing is enough.
 
One reference that they COMPLETELY missed out on that would have been perfect:

When Han dies and Leia gets the wind knocked out of her, they should have had 3PO ask her what's wrong, and she should have responded "I sense a disturbance in the force."

But...Han isn't force sensitive. Why would his death cause a disturbance in the force?
 
You know, I don't really care who Rey's parents are. I mean clearly that'll be a plot point they explain at some point, but I feel that thematically, the way the movie was structured, it really doesn't matter, and the way it was done makes it not matter for me regardless of what the rest of the films do. Her character arc as introduced makes it clear that whoever her real parents are, whether it is Luke or otherwise, Luke will be the father she needs, and he could well be the "father" she had when she was young, if she was in his academy.

When we first meet her at the start, she's independent but desperately lonely. She clings to false hope because she wants to belong. She has a home but she doesn't have a pace to call home. Throughout the film she finds pieces which hints at her destiny, at where she belongs, but she's afraid to reach out and accept it until the end, because she still clings to that simpler false hope - that she can just wait and her parents will return to her. In the end she goes halfway across the galaxy with her new friends to find a man she only remembers hearing legends of , and at that moment she probably felt for the first time in her life that she actually made a step towards finding a place to belong.

So who cares who her parents really were?

I mean in one particular instance Luke gets to say "Rey, I am your father" which is ironic, to say the absolute least
 
One reference that they COMPLETELY missed out on that would have been perfect:

When Han dies and Leia gets the wind knocked out of her, they should have had 3PO ask her what's wrong, and she should have responded "I sense a disturbance in the force."

I'm glad they resisted the temptation of the dark side to make a bunch of bad OT jokes and references
 
But...Han isn't force sensitive. Why would his death cause a disturbance in the force?

To be fair, when he arrived on the planet, Ren sensed him immediately. So the force can definitely link people who aren't force sensitive with those who are, if they're close enough.
 
One reference that they COMPLETELY missed out on that would have been perfect:

When Han dies and Leia gets the wind knocked out of her, they should have had 3PO ask her what's wrong, and she should have responded "I sense a disturbance in the force."

Man between this and the "Han should have shot Kylo first" post I'm beginning to notice a lot of posters have terrible ideas for fanservice LOL.
 
So asked this a few pages back.

After Rey touches the lightsaber that little alien woman says to her that it was her grandfathers, her fathers and now she should have it right?

Which then means that Luke is her father.
 
The only wrench in the "Rey is a Kenobi" thing for me is that trying to explain this to the audience would get really exposition heavy because you'd need to explain;

--When Obi-Wan found a wife/love
--What happened to her before A New Hope
--What happened to Obi-Wan's child/children before A New Hope
--Why Obi-Wan didn't train his own offspring to be Jedi
--What happened to Rey's parents
--Why Rey was left alone

That honestly might be too much to lay on an audience.

His love (Satine Kryze) dies
in the Clone Wars series though. Unless all of that EU has been deemed non-canon.
edit: Yeah, Clone Wars series is canon.
 
They're saving that for when Luke dies.

Tbh, I wouldn't be upset if Leia is the only survivor of the original trio by the end of this trilogy. The story is almost as much her's as it is Luke's. And I think after all these years, we're all dying for one truly bad-ass moment of Leia using the force.
 
So asked this a few pages back.

After Rey touches the lightsaber that little alien woman says to her that it was her grandfathers, her fathers and now she should have it right?

Which then means that Luke is her father.

She does not say that. She says it was Luke's father's and then Luke's. She doesn't mention grandfather.
 
Was there a clear explanation for why R2-D2 woke up when he did? Or is that a mystery to answer in a sequel?

There is no answer yet, but it coincides with Rey's arrival and R2 accompanies her to find Luke, sooo... It could be that Luke set it up that way, or R2 was being R2.
 
Yeah, I think Kylo as an emotionally unstable brat, essentially, is awesome. Felt fresh and a good departure from the usual Sith/dark side mumbo jumbo.
Yep, makes him a much more interesting villain. I love that he isn't a standard dark side bad guy.
 
Was there a clear explanation for why R2-D2 woke up when he did? Or is that a mystery to answer in a sequel?

He went silent when Luke, the last Jedi remaining in the galaxy, retreated to the far reaches of space. He woke up when Rey finally embraced her own nature and harnessed the force to fight against Ren. I'm sure the events will be connected and explained in the next film, even if it was designed as a simple narrative trigger to allow the characters to get to Luke after the final battle in this movie.
 
Man, talking to some of my black friends about this movie is like stepping into a minefield.

Finn is still an elephant in the room. Many of them straight up pissed off, and it totally destroys their liking of the movie.

Personally, I really liked Finn, and thought he helped carry numerous parts along with his overall charisma and heart. But the incompetency, in conjunction with the sanitation reveal (never mind the not Jedi stuff) is a huge point of anger.

Wow. It never crossed my mind as being a reflection of his skin color. He's a n00b stormtrooper which is why in his first real battle, he's questioning his conditioning. His skin color isn't a reflection on that. As to what he was doing before his first battle, I saw sanitation as a joke to contrast with his claim that he knew how to bring down the planet weapon. Again, nothing to do with skin color. The incompetency is due to the idea that stormtroopers shouldn't think for themselves, ideally. He's been trained not to think, so he's still picking it up. Frankly, he moves pretty far from being a braindead stormtrooper to competently fighting the lead enemy in the story with a lightsaber, and he's not even force-aware (apparently). All of which has absolutely zero to do with his skin color.
 
I think so.

He was confronted with the same opportunity as Luke...to complete his transition to the dark side by killing his father. Obviously, Luke didn't do it but Kylo did.
That's a good parallel I hadn't really thought about.

Either way, based on what he says about needing to do it, I assume he's going to be powerful/evil/terrifying in the next movie.
 
I see them going for something new. Her being Kenobi would be a long shot, a very risky narrative choice to explain whithout sounding silly.
The idea for her is that she is a nobody, she has no link with OT, at least I see it as an opportunity for Lucasfilm to have more creative freedom. I love Kenobi tho, he should definitely have a standalone movie
 
Do not think so. Perhaps he was on a timer since computer?
Or R2D2 responds to genetics since Rey never was close to R2D2 until the end.

There is no answer yet, but it coincides with Rey's arrival and R2 accompanies her to find Luke, sooo... It could be that Luke set it up that way, or R2 was being R2.

He went silent when Luke, the last Jedi remaining in the galaxy, retreated to the far reaches of space. He woke up when Rey finally embraced her own nature and harnessed the force to fight against Ren. I'm sure the events will be connected and explained in the next film, even if it was designed as a simple narrative trigger to allow the characters to get to Luke after the final battle in this movie.

That's right, I keep forgetting that was the first time Rey was there.
 
Rey turning out to be a shaved Ewok would be pretty legit imo

would explain why Chewy liked her

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