[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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When he took the mask out I almost yelled: "Pussy!"

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My pee break was between Finn conversing with the dudes to get him to the outer rim and the first thing I saw when I came back into the theater was Rey opening the lightsaber box.

So I don't THINK I missed anything important. Probably as good a pee break spot as I could get. Anyone wanna fill me in on how Rey knows about the saber though?

She heard a child's crying voice and followed it to the box.
 
So what was up with those set pics of Adam Driver suited up as a member of the resistance? good ol JJ trying to fool us?

it was a super blurry picture, it was simply not adam driver
I am pretty sure I saw a dude with long black hair running on the resistance base
 
any patricide experts here, curious what mythology the writers pulled from

Cronos killed his father to gain power.

If I was at my home in LA I could give a better answer (Text books). That's just the one I thought of first. Oedipus is another one but Kylo knows his linage.

I think they just took the idea and did their own thing.
 
Did I miss who Max Von Sydow's character was? Was it someone we were supposed to know? I don't even remember them giving him a name.

I'm hoping its because he was a hologram and that's just how they look now. Maybe they could add some scanlines or something. Or just make them blue again.

Agreed- I thought the CG there looked like something out of the first Harry Potter. Didn't like it at all. Scanlines would have helped a lot I think.

The Art of The Force Awakens has some real interesting shit in it.

Is it just straight up art or do they have a fair bit of interesting written info? If the latter then I might have to pick it up.


Essentially is there some kind of "The Making of TFA" on stands?
 
So what was up with those set pics of Adam Driver suited up as a member of the resistance? good ol JJ trying to fool us?

That was never confirmed as Driver. It looked like him sure, but was too blurry and far away for a definite answer.

Could be anyone really.

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My pee break was between Finn conversing with the dudes to get him to the outer rim and the first thing I saw when I came back into the theater was Rey opening the lightsaber box.

So I don't THINK I missed anything important. Probably as good a pee break spot as I could get. Anyone wanna fill me in on how Rey knows about the saber though?

Basically she heard kids moaning and crying a la Temple of Doom and got drawn to the room with the box.
 
She heard a child's crying voice and followed it to the box.

Ah okay, that might be significant. Did Finn do any important talking there though? I was a little lost on how EVERYONE suddenly knew that he was a former stormtrooper, when he really only told Rey. I guess Rey told Han? Or did FInn tell Han?
 
Gotta say, I wasn't impressed when I heard the soundtrack before the movie.

But during the movie, it worked wonders.
 
is it about quality of CG or are you saying maz was doing stuff she wouldnt have done if she were a puppet? sorry, i'm unfamiliar with this

Badly superimposed 3D character not blending well with actual actors / backgrounds.

Every single CG alien in this movie.
 
Ah okay, that might be significant. Did Finn do any important talking there though? I was a little lost on how EVERYONE suddenly knew that he was a former stormtrooper, when he really only told Rey. I guess Rey told Han? Or did FInn tell Han?

Oh shit, yeah, that's right. Finn confessed to Rey that he was lying and that he was just a stormtrooper. Rey actually kinda took it well. No big dramatic "OH MY GOD YOU'VE BEEN LYING GET THE HELL OUT".
 
Yet he was in charge of a fleet searching for Luke Skywalker, the last known Jedi. For not being fully trained I thought that was quite a big responsability.

He's probably the best they got, and assuming they know who Mummy is don't care about his lack of experience with the force as they know who Grandad is.
 
Eh. I think they way TFA was a retread of ANH was a good thing. The pandering to the fans of the OT who felt alienated by the PT was also a good thing. The movie has done enough fan service and nostalgia tickling to make those who wanted it happy and also brought enough new stuff with the characters to make it feel new. I doubt the other movies will follow the same formula and it will take its own direction from here on out. I agree that it was a "safe" movie, but it had to be. If JJ had taken a chance and failed, it would have been absolutely disaterous. Its been ~30 years since the last movie chronologically and its one of the biggest movie franchises of all time. Reintoducing the old characters and introducing the new while keeping the old fans happy and those who want something new is no small task. I think JJ handled it very well.

The new starkiller base looks like another Death Star? Cool. The old movies rehashed the Death Star and it worked perfectly. This is just much bigger and badder than the Death Star. Seems like a natural evolution of the most bad ass weapon the Empire ever came up with to me (I know its not technically the Empire this time).

I never paid attention to the EU so I can't speak about any similarities there.

I just dont agree that we will look back at this as mediocre and it's not just hype thats praising this movie. I think we will look back at this movie favorably. I think a lot of that also depends on the quality of the next few films as well. I dunno. Maybe im wrong but when the last few decades are a measuring stick of quality when it comes to Star Wars movies, this shit is god tier in comparison.
 
Is it just straight up art or do they have a fair bit of interesting written info? If the latter then I might have to pick it up.


Essentially is there some kind of "The Making of TFA" on stands?

Haven't looked at it too thoroughly yet, but a lot of the captions give context and insight for the art. There isn't a Rinzler style "Making Of" yet, though.
 
yeah, he uses the mask to appear more menacing than he actually is.

People complaining about Kylo Ren being "an angsty teen without his mask", that's the intention of the way he was portrayed.
Very much so. When he took his mask off you realized that he didn't need the mask like Vader needed it. He is a wannabe, using a mask to be like Vader. Without it he's just a kid. He felt like one of the most 'real' characters in the SW universe so far. I think people will get the badass Kylo Ren they want in Ep 8 or 9. He's a villain on the start of his journey.

So good. BB-8 <3
 
I think he's alluding to "I thought that character was practical effects but it was really CGI." and that no CG character in the film fooled him.

Many people thought Davy Jones face was prosthetics when that movie came out.

Badly superimposed 3D character not blending well with actual actors / backgrounds.

Every single CG alien in this movie.
gotcha.
i don't disagree and generally dislike cg characters.
 
The falling object you see in ESB is not the Saber.

In the script it's a broken weathervane.

LUKE
Ben. Leia!

There is an ominous cracking sound from the base of the
weather vane and a piece breaks off, falling into the clouds far below.

In the novelisation it's a broken piece of weathervane.

In conclusion. Its a broken piece of weathervane and not the saber.
 
leia and han divorced because ben wanted that sweet mommy booty and it was becoming way too creepy, hence why they send him off to luke, incest expert

hahahhahaa.

I really liked it.

I noticed with people I went with that no one understood that Rey
is Luke's daughter. The lightsaber scene is all the proof you need.

that sounds pretty arrogant tbh. It's not that obvious. I'd be careful with that theory because It'd be a REALLY lazy twist, especially since we already HAD a "character A is character B's kid" situation in TFA.

All that is implied is that Rey has a deeper connection to Luke than she was aware of. Beyond that it's purely speculation.
 
The falling object you see in ESB is not the Saber.

In the script it's a broken weathervane.



In the novelisation it's a broken piece of weathervane.

In conclusion. Its a broken piece of weathervane and not the saber.
Although technically the Making of Empire Strikes Back says that Luke sees his lightsaber fall behind him.. :P

It's probably still a part of the weathervane
 
is it about quality of CG or are you saying maz was doing stuff she wouldnt have done if she were a puppet? sorry, i'm unfamiliar with this
I did a bad job of explaining myself: the question is "do the CG characters look and feel more believable in a scene than Davy Jones did in Pirates of the Caribbean"?

I don't feel super strongly about this, Snoke and the alien with the lightsaber weren't awful, but they already felt a little dated. Loved the staging of Snoke's hologram chamber, though.
 
Eh. I think they way TFA was a retread of ANH was a good thing. The pandering to the fans of the OT who felt alienated by the PT was also a good thing. The movie has done enough fan service and nostalgia tickling to make those who wanted it happy and also brought enough new stuff with the characters to make it feel new. I doubt the other movies will follow the same formula and it will take its own direction from here on out. I agree that it was a "safe" movie, but it had to be. If JJ had taken a chance and failed, it would have been absolutely disaterous. Its been ~30 years since the last movie chronologically and its one of the biggest movie franchises of all time. Reintoducing the old characters and introducing the new while keeping the old fans happy and those who want something new is no small task. I think JJ handled it very well.

The new starkiller base looks like another Death Star? Cool. The old movies rehashed the Death Star and it worked perfectly. This is just much bigger and badder than the Death Star. Seems like a natural evolution of the most bad ass weapon the Empire ever came up with to me (I know its not technically the Empire this time).

I never paid attention to the EU so I can't speak about any similarities there.

I just dont agree that we will look back at this as mediocre and it's not just hype thats praising this movie. I think we will look back at this movie favorably. I think a lot of that also depends on the quality of the next few films as well. I dunno. Maybe im wrong but when the last few decades are a measuring stick of quality when it comes to Star Wars movies, this shit is god tier in comparison.

This is the post I agree with the most so far. I think the overwhelming opinion as we move forward is going to be "it was a rehash for a reason and that's okay!"

TFA was all about the characters. 100%. It puts them in the same situation we're already familiar with so we can see how they develop as their own characters in contrast to the originals. I think going in a lot of people expected it to be Finn as Luke, Poe as Han, and Rey as Leia, but they each mix and match some of those characters aspects. rey is our luke, but how is she going to develop different than luke? How is Luke, who is now presumably Yoda, going to train her differently? We already saw how different Kylo is to Vader, and how bad he wants to BE Vader.

The movie sets up the rest of the trilogy excellently.

I thought that Poe was the one who told people?


Oh, duh. Yeah that would make sense. Guess Poe just filled everyone in on the escape details offscreen when he made his way back to the rebels.
 
So we're gonna have a scene where Luke will tell Rey "Rey... I'm your father."?

Also, anyone noticed how it's possibly implied that Ren already knew about Rey?

1- When they captured her, when he meets her, he says something along the lines of "Finally, the girl I've heard so much about."

2- He basically asks her to join him, because he knows she's force sensitive, but possibly because he knows more than that too.
 
So what's the likelihood that Snoke is going to push Kylo too hard and the dude's just going to snap and slice him to ribbons. He has one hell of a temper

Oh, and we better get a a fight scene with Luke and Rey versus the Knights.
 
The puns were great in the first half of the movie like Rey with a look on her face ready to stab Finn when BB-8 tells her that he had Poe's jacket.

It got out of hand however when they escaped Han's enemies and that weird tentacle monster. "It looks like that." It was like 5 or 6 puns in a row, so cringy.
 
Thats what a lot of us are assuming. ASSUMING

yeah, people are way too fast treating fan-theories as fact.

The puns were great in the first half of the movie like Rey with a look on her face ready to stab Finn when BB-8 tells her that he had Poe's jacket.

It got out of hand however when they escaped Han's enemies and that weird tentacle monster. "It looks like that." It was like 5 or 6 puns in a row, so cringy.

i think you're misusing the word "pun"
do you mean ... 'joke' :P
 
Company event ended earlier than planned, so I took the chance, flew home, grabbed my wife and flew over to the nearest cinema to watch Star Wars. I was way too hyped!

As soon as I realised the story was a retread of A New Hope, I knew Han was gonna bite it (being the mentor for Rey, Finn and Rey watching Han from a distance). Still, was sad he had to go, more so when Chewie raged and started going berserk.

Any EU fans notice any rectors on the old material? I've never read a single EU thing in my life but I'm sure I've heard one about Han and Leia's children.
 
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