We know that cloning is a very big thing in the old EU. Palpating even went so far as to clone himself as insurance, so I definitely expect them to use some sort of cloning technology in the new trilogy.
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We know that cloning is a very big thing in the old EU. Palpating even went so far as to clone himself as insurance, so I definitely expect them to use some sort of cloning technology in the new trilogy.
i don't see anyone expecting grace from 2 people picking up a light saber for the first time in their lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-DeI3ohVbY
look at this duel. There's so much pushing, shoving, swings not hitting anyone but random objects.
That's not graceful either. It's still the best light saber duel.
A light saber duel is not about 2 light sabers hitting each other.
i'll pay attention tonight during viewing #4. But i'm quite sure all he(? or maybe just the audience) hears are sounds of discomfort and trauma.
"I'm going into hiding so no one can find me, but if you ever need me I'll be right here. "
Makes sense. :/
Also, I hated how R2 woke up for no other reason than to get in before the end credits. They had the lightsaber before the Starkiller battle, that should have at least woken him up then.
Overall I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. I had a few small issues but overall it was very enjoyable.
What I liked:
All 3 new main characters and the actors playing them were great
All the returning actors did a great job, especially Harrison Ford
The plot moved along at a good speed
Kylo Ren was a great new bad guy
Great lightsaber fights
Good mix of CGI and practical effects, it all looked great
Great humor/jokes
The things I didn't like:
We didn't learn much of/see the new republic before the capital was destroyed
Maybe a few too many nods/references to the OT
The leader of the new order looks like a generic evil alien but we didn't get to see much of him. It will be interesting to see if we find out how he rose to power since the Empire was very anti Alien.
Also a personal disappointment to me was the new Republic Fleet didn't help in the planet attack since I love capital ship battles, hopefully we get a big RotJ type fleet battle by the end of the trilogy.
What I liked:
All 3 new main characters and the actors playing them were great
All the returning actors did a great job, especially Harrison Ford
The plot moved along at a good speed
Kylo Ren was a great new bad guy
Great lightsaber fights
Good mix of CGI and practical effects, it all looked great
Great humor/jokes
The things I didn't like:
We didn't learn much of/see the new republic before the capital was destroyed
Maybe a few too many nods/references to the OT
The leader of the new order looks like a generic evil alien but we didn't get to see much of him. It will be interesting to see if we find out how he rose to power since the Empire was very anti Alien.
Also a personal disappointment to me was the new Republic Fleet didn't help in the planet attack since I love capital ship battles, hopefully we get a big RotJ type fleet battle by the end of the trilogy.
But Rey wasn't around, then.
If we assume that Luke knows Rey, so does R2.
all we knew of Alderaan was that they had no weapons, before it was blown up
The first time we hear about the galactic senate is also the time we find out that it has been dissolved by the emperor.
didn't the fleet get blown up too? wasn't that the point? There's ships in orbit of the planet when it's hit by the starkiller beam, and those ships get obliterated, too.
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I am almost certain that in the next movie we'll have doctors report that while Finn is in a coma they noticed his midichlorian count has been steadily rising, only a little but it is rising.
This way they can kill the notion that it's DNA-like, it becomes more of a biological sude effect than the force itself. And it ties in to the idea that the force awakens.
That should become a plot point in explaining why he quit, and I would expect Phasma to potentially go through the same, but probably darkside.
There is no way midichlorians will be mentioned in this series.
Is this mentioned in the film or novel?
I don't know if someone want to be found when he has just create another big mess for the galaxy.
Haloid1177
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I'm honestly shocked at the people saying Kylo wasn't a good villain. Comparing him to ANH Vader, he's a much more compelling character, and has more characterization than almost anyone in ANH overall. Driver was fantastic and really made him seem like a tortured soul. Even in the end battle, he'd had the shit beaten out of him before fighting Rey, and was probably way out of practice with dueling, so anyone semi-competent with a saber should have done okay. Even Snoke admitted he needed to complete his training.
That and his Force powers were amazing.
That and his Force powers were amazing.
Shuggananas
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who do you think put the map piece in R2 ?
……forgetit
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I liked the PT callbacks, a ton of people grew up with the prequels and not the original trilogy, myself included. The clone army, the flashback to Anakin killing children with his lightsaber, a few of the flags. I felt worried that they'd completely ignore it and I'm happy they didn't.
WadiumArcadium
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Yeah. I'm surprised as well. Driver did an excellent job and Kylo's actually a much more interesting villain that I expected. Love the angle of a someone being tempted by the light instead of the opposite.
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It's not a map by Luke, it's probably just a map of where the first temple was. There's no indication Luke made the map himself.
Netherscourge
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1. I hated the Poe character. He reminded me of little Annie in Phantom Menace, especially with all the "Whoa, these ships are awesome. I can fly anything." Overacting and annoying.
2. Leia was too stiff and had none of her classic attitude.
3. I thought they should have shown more of Chewie mourning Han. All we got was a couple seconds of him with his head down on the way back from Starkiller base. That should have been one of the biggest moments in the whole Star Wars saga, but it seemed to just skip right along.
4. Finn wasn't as great as I thought he would be. He seemed to be dragging along most of the time. But he had a more genuine personality than Poe did, so that's something.
Kylo and Rey were hands down the best part of the movie. Everything between those two was amazing. The force tug of war, the lightsaber battle, etc...
The big creepy Dark Side guy was interesting though. Wondering what's up with him and if he has any connection to Palpatine.
2. Leia was too stiff and had none of her classic attitude.
3. I thought they should have shown more of Chewie mourning Han. All we got was a couple seconds of him with his head down on the way back from Starkiller base. That should have been one of the biggest moments in the whole Star Wars saga, but it seemed to just skip right along.
4. Finn wasn't as great as I thought he would be. He seemed to be dragging along most of the time. But he had a more genuine personality than Poe did, so that's something.
Kylo and Rey were hands down the best part of the movie. Everything between those two was amazing. The force tug of war, the lightsaber battle, etc...
The big creepy Dark Side guy was interesting though. Wondering what's up with him and if he has any connection to Palpatine.
He might be disable. Lightsaber hit him in his back and would have cut his spinal cord.
Wasn't middle of his back but a side, spinal cord not in danger. IMO.
Doubt he's in coma in the beginning of the next film though.
I would assume it was to hurt himself to lead to pain and anger and increase his dark side power. I am sure the novel will provide an official explanation.
Discotheque
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i can understand dislike of any of the new characters (though I liked all of them...well not Snoke) except Poe...that guy was a bro. he had this great self-assured attitude of han solo at the start but was also approachable/friendly too.
I don't like the idea of a clone army period. The fact that a clone army is basically disposable people solely created to kill is a bit creepy. I guess it would work better for, you know, THE BAD GUYS, but it left a bad taste in my mouth in the PT. Yoda was like, "Ok you sacks of shit, kill the enemies you must. Your deaths, I care not."
Some exhibition mentioned it's supposedly an ancient design, so maybe they didn't figure out lightsaber tech at that point. Though I was sold on the lightsaber in this film. I like how wild and almost demonic it looks. The part where Kylo burns Finn with the hilt, damn now I know why he's got that hilt.
No, you see him wince from the pain and stumble a bit every time before he does that.
It was a map TO Luke. With half left in R2 and half left on Jakku. Likely by whoever left Ray on Jakku. (Aka, Luke, her dad).
shira
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You don't see many disabled people in this universe. I'm sure they have a bacta tank/cybernetic replacement for everything.
So he fled to some random star after he known that he messed up and leave the map in R2D2 in form of message like "if you got into trouble find me here, dude."
Well...
The visual dictionary explains it.l very well. Relevant sample page is shown in Amazon.
RuinerPrime
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Spider legs hopefully
Shuggananas
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Could it be that Luke himself got his saber back on bespin and then gave it to maz ? She seems to be aware of a lot of shit when she gives the talk to Rey
darkazcura
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It was to distract his pain from the wound he already had.
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Glass Shark
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Guys, don't forget that the Clone Wars were mentioned in A New Hope. Mentioning clones in itself is not necessarily a PT callback.
World SkiFree
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Yes, I look forward to seeing it again just to take in some of the finer details.
……forgetit
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But the children screaming when Rey touched Anakin's lightsaber definitely was.
graffix13
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Agree. And I am of the OT generation.
Look, the prequels happened. They are canon. People can't close their eyes click their heels x3, and wish them away.
If you truly hate them that much, just stop watching the movies. It would save you a lot of anger. But people like to complain so they won't.
jesus christ why
WadiumArcadium
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It is though isn't it? We never had any context for the Clone Wars in the original. Here they explicitly mention replacing their existing troops with a clone army. Hux is disgusted at the thought.
The show's great. Don't knock it til you try it.
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Everything after Jakku is such a slog.
Inferno313
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I interpreted that as the screams of the students at Luke's academy being killed by the Knights of Ren.
Don't think there is enough to go on. It's the biggest question so far.
Here's my speculation: Rey is another Anakin. By that I mean she has no direct lineage. Anakin was birth by the force as so was Rey. She has a mother but she probably plays no importance much like Anakin's mother (abandoned her most likely). Luke finds her and senses the immense force in her or at the very least that she's special in some way. Around the same time Leigh senses Ben having something in him too but it's very lenient towards the dark side. Luke decides to train Ben as practice but with the intention of using that practice towards Rey as she will be his true apprentice. Doesn't train both at the same time since I'd say Rey is a bit younger and Luke wouldn't want to train someone that young yet. Ren goes crazy, Luke hides Rey from Ren as he's the only who can defeat her and then goes into hiding out of shame. He probably erased her memory in order to keep her safe as she probably displayed that adventurous attitude at a young age.
I'm most likely way off but this is what I think her backstory is. I'm gonna have to see the movie again in order to be certain.
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So true. And the best acting in the entire movie is the last 20 seconds. Hamil's face when he sees her/the saber is just incredible. It is the only part that felt classic SW to me.
But R2 didn't make the trip with Rey to find Luke, so I don't find that theory likely. R2 is Luke's doid, not BB-8, so he'd probably want to be reconnected as well.
I really don't see them following on that bullshit from the prequels.
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They aren't going to pull another immaculate conception, that was one of the most despised parts of the prequel lore. It's in the dustbin along with midichlorians, we will never get that on screen again.
The OT lightsaber duels were pretty bad. Just two men going back and forth in circles and hitting each other's blade, with the occasional lunge to keep things lively.
The duels here were brutal and violent, as if the people involved were actually trying to hit each other with their swords.
……forgetit
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The flashback goes threw a lot, heck you can even hear Yoda talking. While that is a place you could take it I feel like it's prequel history adds to Rey being disgusted by it.
Glass Shark
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We literally had someone yesterday saying TFA was the worst of all the Star Wars movies, even worse than all the prequels. And that TPM was "underrated"
I just don't even know
The movie really needs it.
Some scenes are way to short and just rush the story forward. Give those more room to breath and add some scenes.
Part of this is a post from another thread:
Their friendship made no sense to me. They knew each other for 5 minutes and were only helping each other because of circumstance. The Finn/Rey stuff didn't make much sense, either. He basically fell in love with her as soon as she hit him in the face. The relationships in general came together way too quickly. They all met for like a couple days but acted like they were old friends.
Their friendship made no sense to me. They knew each other for 5 minutes and were only helping each other because of circumstance. The Finn/Rey stuff didn't make much sense, either. He basically fell in love with her as soon as she hit him in the face. The relationships in general came together way too quickly. They all met for like a couple days but acted like they were old friends.
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