[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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I thought the opposite. The lightsaber duels were clumsy and lacked grace and fluidity that even the OT films had. Like JJ wanted to move away from the prequel style, but he went too far in that direction.

One got shotted in the leg another is new face to the force.

It cannot be a fight of Yoda vs Dooku level.
 
Part of this is a post from another thread:

Their friendship made no sense to me. They knew each other for 5 minutes and were only helping each other because of circumstance. The Finn/Rey stuff didn't make much sense, either. He basically fell in love with her as soon as she hit him in the face. The relationships in general came together way too quickly. They all met for like a couple days but acted like they were old friends.

Nearly dieing together will do that to people. Plus they're basically the first friends either of them had.
 
Part of this is a post from another thread:

Their friendship made no sense to me. They knew each other for 5 minutes and were only helping each other because of circumstance. The Finn/Rey stuff didn't make much sense, either. He basically fell in love with her as soon as she hit him in the face. The relationships in general came together way too quickly. They all met for like a couple days but acted like they were old friends.

Rey hasn't had a close friendship with anyone for years on Jakku and that kind of thing is frowned on in the First Order. It really didn't seem that unlikely to me.
 
Rey is definitely related to Luke because in the original trailer Luke is telling her the force runs strong in his family. He says his father, himself, his sister and You have that power too.

So, it's a Skywalker family relation of some sort. He's probably going to apprentice her and together they'll chase down Kylo and the big creepy Dark Side guy.
 
Rey is definitely related to Luke because in the original trailer Luke is telling her the force runs strong in his family. He says his father, himself, his sister and You have that power too.

So, it's a Skywalker family relation of some sort. He's probably going to apprentice her and together they'll chase down Kylo and the big creepy Dark Side guy.

The trailer voice over could also be directed at Ben.
 
Looking back on it a day later, the scene in Han's freighter with the rathtars was really unnecessary. Not terrible, but there could have been a different way to move the plot along and get the characters acquainted with each other than giant CG monsters out of nowhere.
 
Rey is definitely related to Luke because in the original trailer Luke is telling her the force runs strong in his family. He says his father, himself, his sister and You have that power too.

So, it's a Skywalker family relation of some sort. He's probably going to apprentice her and together they'll chase down Kylo and the big creepy Dark Side guy.

The the last time, that quote from Luke is from Return of the Jedi.
 
Rey hasn't had a close friendship with anyone for years on Jakku and that kind of thing is frowned on in the First Order. It really didn't seem that unlikely to me.
I'm not saying that it's completely ridiculous that they became friends but it all happened way too quickly, like everything was on fast forward to get to other things.
 
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Maybe it's by design, but 90% of the film is delivered in ANH Luke style. Hokey and corny as fuck. The last 20 seconds is pretty much all I needed to redeem it. Take me back to the mystical jedi. The conflict within.

It's why Phantom Menace is the best film for pure jedi and universe lore. Seeing so many jedi, how people view and interact with them, the council, the different styles of saber/force techniques, the decisions they have to make.. it's the only glimpse we see of the world before sith. So I want to see this new world and how jedi interact with it.
 
So true. And the best acting in the entire movie is the last 20 seconds. Hamil's face when he sees her/the saber is just incredible. It is the only part that felt classic SW to me.
What does classic Star Wars even mean? We got cool lightsaber battles, we got Han Solo and Chewie being awesome, we got a cantina like sequences with tons of strange aliens, a new and memorable droid with BB-8, a great cast of new characters taking on evil in the galaxy. If this is not classic Star Wars, I don't know what it.
 
They aren't going to pull another immaculate conception, that was one of the most despised parts of the prequel lore. It's in the dustbin along with midichlorians, we will never get that on screen again.

I wouldn't want it either. But I don't think she's a Skywalker. She has all the traits but with how quick they were to tell us that Kylo was Solo's kid which is less obvious than Rey being Luke's kid, that I don't think they're going to do it. So the only other explanation I got is the whole birth by force shit.

Or maybe they will go with the obvious. Actually now that I think about it, the last scene pretty much felt like Luke telling her that he was her father without saying a word.

Fuck. I need to go to sleep.
 
It seems clear that like ESB, the next movie will split the main characters into two groups. Luke, Rey, Chewie and R2 doing the Jedi business, and Poe, Finn, BB-8 and Leia doing the military stuff.
 
bit of a piss take that han getting temporarily frozen in carbonite is a far more emotionally significant scene for both the characters and audience than his actual death.

it'll still be an iconic scene long after episode vii has been mostly forgotten.
 
We literally had someone yesterday saying TFA was the worst of all the Star Wars movies, even worse than all the prequels. And that TPM was "underrated"

I just don't even know

Y'all should take my advice and not listen to the intense shit anyone here says (except for me in this post). I've been watching conferences and shows this past year before looking on GAF, and I've thoroughly enjoyed them much more than I would have had I been involved in the exaggerated cynicism in a lot of threads. Things are just not as enjoyable when you read the depressing shit here first. Sure, some of it may be true, but many posters here phrase their criticism in such a shitty, over-the-top way that shapes your view of the product.

The same can also be said for popular things that people herald as the best thing ever. Don't listen to that shit either. Often ends in disappointment. Just experience the product first, whatever it may be, and then read what people have to say here. I've always read this forum in the past before experiencing a movie or game, and I know damn well that my opinion was adversely affected because of it. Lol
 
I really don't get why people keep acting like Rey beating Ren was unrealistic even though he was hurt to the point where he had to keep beating his wound to stay conscious.

Is that really what he was doing though? No one else that went with me knew what that was about, and assumed it was just him venting anger or trying to focus. I guess we just all missed exactly where Han shot him, but I thought it was in the leg, and I thought he was pounding his side/chest/shoulder before it got hit with the lightsaber.

Does any supplementary media explain why Kylo Ren lightsaber hilt has extra uhhh...mini lightsaber?

It's venting unstable energy. His lightsaber is based off of a much earlier design, and if you notice, when they showed closeups, the energy that was coming out of the hilt was twisted and almost spiderlike around the core of the blade. I'm not really sure why they decided to use the old design other than "because laser claymore is cool!" either. Even if they were just trying to ape the sith, without actually doing everything right, they should have at least been able to replicate the more modern technology. Although if Kylo Ren didn't actually have any guidance at all with creating the weapon, and could only find old schematics it might make sense, but I feel like that's kind of a stretch.
 
Part of this is a post from another thread:

Their friendship made no sense to me. They knew each other for 5 minutes and were only helping each other because of circumstance. The Finn/Rey stuff didn't make much sense, either. He basically fell in love with her as soon as she hit him in the face. The relationships in general came together way too quickly. They all met for like a couple days but acted like they were old friends.


I remember these people named Luke, Leia and Han who were all pretty fam by the end of a movie called A New Hope.

"A Princess and a guy like me...?"

"No."
 
It was chewie that shot him, in the side
He's beating the wound to keep focused. There's even a shot of his blood leaking the first time he does it.
 
Is that really what he was doing though? No one else that went with me knew what that was about, and assumed it was just him venting anger or trying to focus. I guess we just all missed exactly where Han shot him, but I thought it was in the leg, and I thought he was pounding his side/chest/shoulder before it got hit with the lightsaber.

I need to rewatch but I thought Chewie shot him in the gut.
 
Personally I loved the bromance between Poe and Finn, I thought it was pretty believable considering what they went through together. But I'm not that hard to please.
 
Part of this is a post from another thread:

Their friendship made no sense to me. They knew each other for 5 minutes and were only helping each other because of circumstance. The Finn/Rey stuff didn't make much sense, either. He basically fell in love with her as soon as she hit him in the face. The relationships in general came together way too quickly. They all met for like a couple days but acted like they were old friends.

If I was being tortured by an evil masked wizard with a demon sword, I would instantly be friends with whoever bailed me out.

I also fell in love with Daisy Ridley instantly. You saying our love isn't believable?
 
I interpreted that as the screams of the students at Luke's academy being killed by the Knights of Ren.

definitely not, because the lightsaber was not present there as far as we know.
but it was exactly this lightsaber that sliced the younglings in episode 3.
 
The Thrawn trilogy story as a direct sequel to Jedi absolutely shits on this movie. Can't believe how much it dropped the ball in not bridging that 30 year gap in story. Unbelievable.

Eh. It's not so much a direct sequel. It's set 30 years later, and makes no qualms about the fact that it's mostly following new characters.
 
Is that really what he was doing though? No one else that went with me knew what that was about, and assumed it was just him venting anger or trying to focus. I guess we just all missed exactly where Han shot him, but I thought it was in the leg, and I thought he was pounding his side/chest/shoulder before it got hit with the lightsaber.
Chewie put a major shot with his bow in Ren's leg after Han got killed. It was very obvious to me at least that he was wounded a lot from that.

If you are in a lot of pain, you do the pounding thing to take your focus of it.
 
You'll see, they'll have the docs report that Finn is force sensitive and once he wakens Leia will ask him about it, and will explain to him what the force is a la Yoda, paralleling Rey's own knowledge.

They might not explicitly say he has a rising midichlorian count, but they will probably say he is force sensitive while he's in a coma.

About Luke's saber, maybe he got it back himself, Kylo might even have used it (he says "this belongs to me", could imply that). Luke gave it to Maz after everything went down with Kylo.
 
That "two" minutes before the Mega Death Star's ready rival Dragon Ball Z.

And mark my words: In either VIII or IX Rey will fall to the dark side given her face expression when she hugged Leia in the end. And Finn is there to get her back to the light.
And Kylo is probably getting the same treatment Anakin got in the end of III.
 
Looking back on it a day later, the scene in Han's freighter with the rathtars was really unnecessary. Not terrible, but there could have been a different way to move the plot along and get the characters acquainted with each other than giant CG monsters out of nowhere.

Have no idea how that didn't end up on the cutting room floor.
 
What does classic Star Wars even mean? We got cool lightsaber battles, we got Han Solo and Chewie being awesome, we got a cantina like sequences with tons of strange aliens, a new and memorable droid with BB-8, a great cast of new characters taking on evil in the galaxy. If this is not classic Star Wars, I don't know what it.

I expanded in the post before this one.
 
Pretty good.

I don't think Rey is related to anybody personally. At least I kind of hope not.

The skywalkers aren't the only force sensitive family in the galaxy!

I was not really a fan of emo Kylo... I think Star Wars is kind of fucked that the 1st movie had the most bad ass villain ever.

Also kind of disappointed we got so little Luke. I was half convinced at the start I heard mark Hamill's voice coming out of kylo Ren's mask. I wanted an awesome "Luke infiltrating jabba's palace" scene.
 
I'm talking about the visuals
I can't be arsed to watch 5+ seasons of something that ugly, no matter how good it is
also darth maul revived and having a brother is dumb as shit

The early seasons are rough, but the look grows on you. Also
it isn't Darth Maul's brother, there species refers to anyone in their tribe as brothers. The way it's presented makes sense.
 
Is that really what he was doing though? No one else that went with me knew what that was about, and assumed it was just him venting anger or trying to focus. I guess we just all missed exactly where Han shot him, but I thought it was in the leg, and I thought he was pounding his side/chest/shoulder before it got hit with the lightsaber.

Han didn't shoot him, Chewie hit him with the bowcaster. In the side, not too far from where he's thumping himself. It's a bad wound, you see blood dripping out his pants cuff.
 
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