[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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Anton Sugar
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Yeah, I was a bit disappointed in the ships in this movie. All were just VERY slightly different modifications of the OT. Wish we had gotten just a few new ones.
Although it seemed like the First Order had these really slim AT-ATs? You only seem them walk in a very brief scene (and they're far away), so I couldn't tell.
ThisGuy
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Blah, my fav character gone. I had no idea he wanted that. But I'd be lying if I said I didn't want his old ass slinging a pistol in a wheel chair.
I did like the way he die. Reminiscent of Vader and Luke in some ways.
If she is still alive, I could totally dig her being a drunk runaway like Commodore Norrington from POTC as previously mentioned.
I would argue you've got it backwardsthe guts are the same (ie. the character archetypes... well, not so much the archetypes so much as their arcs, particularly their relationships to others), but the framework is all chopped up and remixed in a way that isn't as effective. I just think there's something to be said for how patient and, even, confident the Original Trilogy is in its own identity. For me, this film feels stuck between cribbing relentlessly from A New Hope tonally and visually, without fully owning the narrative legwork needed for A New Hope to be as successful as it is.
And you're right that these characters are far more interesting than anything to be found in the prequel trilogy. though, I will sayand I did not expect this to be the case going in, because I find so much of the prequels to be uninspired green screen garbage (Naboo, being the worst offender)but the world design, ship design, etc. was disappointingly generic in this one. I was half-joking when I said I expected better because I thought they would want to sell more toys, but, seriously, I was taken aback by how closely they stuck to the OT designs, for the most part.
DragonSworne
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Loved the movie. Best star wars movie by far.
I just wish they cut all the exposition. The scene with Han and Leia explaining everything about Ren was needless. It was so clumsy and heavy handed that it felt out of place. The scene should have been cut.
Also, Leia in general was off character. She came across as fragile and feable. Completely different from her character in the previous movies. They really failed with Leia.
I just wish they cut all the exposition. The scene with Han and Leia explaining everything about Ren was needless. It was so clumsy and heavy handed that it felt out of place. The scene should have been cut.
Also, Leia in general was off character. She came across as fragile and feable. Completely different from her character in the previous movies. They really failed with Leia.
SmackAttack
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Lol, no kidding. People in my theater were like "She's gonna want him dead now".
Tesseract
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Some [shitty quality] stills from Rey's vision: http://imgur.com/a/2JNFX
Anton Sugar
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Yeah, it really bothers me how Chewie, very specifically (it's a close shot on Leia), walks right by her. Could have had an embrace, then her and Rey make eye contact, etc.
I *love* that shot of Leia and Rey hugging alone while everyone else celebrates, though.
Dubbedinenglish
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I think that's what the second shot from Starkiller base was for. Locate Luke, then destroy the system and planet he is on and then the Republic with the other shot.
dead dead dead dead dead
bananafactory
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A lot of shit has happened since ROTJ. I think it's a bit silly to expect to see the same happy go lucky crew we last left 30 years ago. Leia is fragile and feeble emotionally because she lost her son and her brother disappeared. I don't know why she'd be cracking jokes.
User 479360
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I got there with about 13 minutes to spare before showtime, and figured with my luck it'd be sold out, but my town's theatre was barely sold at all. It was the 1pm 3D matinee, and there was only about 20-25 people there.
The girl at the concessions stand laughed when I asked.
The girl at the concessions stand laughed when I asked.
Anton Sugar
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1) I think he is a force user only because Ren took notice of him in the village. Other than that, there isn't anything else that suggests that he is.
2) You don't have to be a force user to wield a light saber.
3) Han is dead.
"not a human hand"
I thought that was clearly the junk-dealer's hand, as it was also his voice.
civilstrife
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Honestly, the biggest reference to the prequels was just the use of the word Sith, which is never once spoken in the original trilogy.
It became a bit un-needed after a bit, facts talk by themselves - She's the one to actually get most of the shit done anyway.
But eh, social situation can use any help anyway.
Robot Pants
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Maybe Plaegus created Rey and is using her as a sleeper agent that will "Awaken" when the correct phrase is used. Like in Manchurian Candidate (or Bioshock for you, Gaffers).
Boy that Plaegus. Real jerk huh?
Boy that Plaegus. Real jerk huh?
LookAtMeGo
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Cool thanks. I still get the feeling that shot of the Knights in the rain, the hallway... its a premoniton. This is stuff that will come to pass, not things from the past.
As I was sitting in the theater, watching the credits, a group of four kids about seven or eight years old started chanting, "Disney sucks! Disney sucks!" "Bring back Lucas!" they said.
I'm not sure what they're so mad about, though it might have had something to do with Han's death. But now I can't help but imagine internet discussions ten years from now where college kids complain about Disney and Abrams ruining Lucas's original vision.
I'm not sure what they're so mad about, though it might have had something to do with Han's death. But now I can't help but imagine internet discussions ten years from now where college kids complain about Disney and Abrams ruining Lucas's original vision.
Calcium
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I read that as "Midichlorian Candidate". I need sleep.
Maybe but it doesn't make sense if he was left to take care of her.
Why is he being such a dick about giving her food and then rats her out to the New Order? He'd be the galaxy's worst guardian.
So she had a mix of previsions of the future and memories, so that renn vision with the knights killing people may be a prevision
Dusktildawn48
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Holy shit. Couldn't talk star wars for almost an hour. Scary times
wanderingprostheyltite
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I like how a lot of us thought The Raid dudes would be part of this outfit, damn they were a disposable lot in the end lol.
Yup. Don't see it.
igordennis
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Just got back from seeing it for the first time and this is the first thing i see on gaf
WAT
Don't watch her during thunderstrikes, only when she turns away from Kylo and appears on Jakku.
Spiritreaver
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The joys of having a movie theater that's a ten minute walk from my home. Just got back from my fourth viewing.
I wanted to chime in on the Ren vs Finn/Rey discussion we had last night. Anyone who thinks Ren was in a proper state of mind and in full control/health during that fight needs to see the film again, period.
Watch how Ren fights Rey especially, (before she goes superjedi) his swings lack control. He swings hard, but he has trouble recovering from the swing. There's like 2-3 swings where he nearly falls over and almost stabs the ground with his saber. He has no momentum, he's out of it. I'm not seeing things either. I watched him the whole fight, he takes a second to get back up for another swing. Catching Rey on the ledge was a desperate attempt to end it.
I wanted to chime in on the Ren vs Finn/Rey discussion we had last night. Anyone who thinks Ren was in a proper state of mind and in full control/health during that fight needs to see the film again, period.
Watch how Ren fights Rey especially, (before she goes superjedi) his swings lack control. He swings hard, but he has trouble recovering from the swing. There's like 2-3 swings where he nearly falls over and almost stabs the ground with his saber. He has no momentum, he's out of it. I'm not seeing things either. I watched him the whole fight, he takes a second to get back up for another swing. Catching Rey on the ledge was a desperate attempt to end it.
Oh god that was wonderful. Too bad Mark Hamill didn't even have any lines I think (unless from one of the flashbacks?). Han Solo's death I sadly got spoiled beforehand, but I probably wouldn't have been too surprise still really given that Harrsion Ford just seems to want to be done with this.
Yeah I was like, er Chewie shouldn't be moving to Leia, and not just passing her?D: Miss opportunity there.
Yeah I was like, er Chewie shouldn't be moving to Leia, and not just passing her?D: Miss opportunity there.
I would actually love to see a ewan mcgregor force ghost in the upcoming movies.
I wasn't aware.
Agent Gibbs
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Why do people keep saying Rey could be a Kenobi? seriously he died in a new hope, which was 34 years before The Force Awakens - Rey is in her 20's so its impossible, theres no logic behind it,
She's either a Skywalker or a nobody
She's either a Skywalker or a nobody
I'd be.. okay with this, sorta, but why would he be an old man ghost in ESB/ROTJ but a younger ghost 30 years later?
Dusktildawn48
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Tainted
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The Star Wars franchise is certainly a strange beast. You have the generation in their late 30s/early 40s (like myself) who grew up with the original trilogy, watched on in horror as Lucas messed with them and squirm at the prequels.
Then we have the 20 somethings who 'aapreciated' the original movies but dont hold them in the same regard as the older gen..whos starting off point is essentially the prequels and then finally the new generation who almost treat those prequels as the benchmark.
It's quite fascinating in a way to see how the franchise has evolved, in both the content and the viwers / fans.
If Rey is so good at premonitions... I'm thinking she's Sheev's grand daughter.
So annoyed i got spoiled on hans death on a youtube comment that wasnt even anything to do with star wars.
Just got back though. Loved it and thought it was great, although agreed with people that it followed episode 4 way to much in terms of story structure. But loved the film anyway and cant wait to see the next two
Also i really hope that Rey has no relation to any character. have Luke as the Obi-Wan/ Yoda character, just have rey as her own hero
Just got back though. Loved it and thought it was great, although agreed with people that it followed episode 4 way to much in terms of story structure. But loved the film anyway and cant wait to see the next two
Also i really hope that Rey has no relation to any character. have Luke as the Obi-Wan/ Yoda character, just have rey as her own hero
[shitty quality] video of Rey's vision: http://sendvid.com/i0q9ybuc
Clearly OT Obi-Wan/Alec Guinness saying "Rey."
Clearly OT Obi-Wan/Alec Guinness saying "Rey."
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