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[lastplayed]

got it

 

[Nostremitus]

I think it would be cool if Finn is force sensitive, but in a different way from Rey and other Jedi. It would be cool to see him use the force more to make political decisions and rise as a leader in the resistance. Where Rey focuses on the traditional martial arts side of the force.

Makes sense, how else do you explain the sudden growth of individuality and conscience despite being brainwashed since birth.

 

[MMarston]

Nothing stops this ship dude.

Are you sure?

 

[TheRedSnifit]

I feel like the comparison is mute when you consider that those movies are typically based on some YA series. They don't really have to be interesting with the endings because people want faithful adaptions and the answers can be had in ten seconds with a Google search.

There's just no point.

The Marvel movies are a little better a comparison as they change more and it's hard to tell what they will or won't adapt ahead of time, but SW really is a beast all its own. This is the series with decades of books/comics to adapt that is fighting tooth and nail not to. It's a fascinating juxtaposition.

They apparently do, seeing the massive dropoff in tickets Mockingjay Part II sold in comparison to Part I. Nobody wants to see a movie with no end.

 

[takriel]

Meaning the teaser should be this summer.



All aboard GAF.

My guess for the teaser: Kylo Ren is shown with a more stable version of his lightsaber. No helmet is needed anymore. His scarred face is menacing enough.

Rey is shown training with Luke. In order to unleash the force she must dive deep into her past.

Finn and Poe are shown doing some shenanigans to stormtroopers.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Was it just fate that brought Finn and Rey together or was it the force? The way Finn just seems to be good and how Kylo almost senses him and how he just stumbles upon Rey.. like I know its just a movie and they had to meet somehow but I have this feeling that the light side of the force is calling on Finn.

 

[ironmang]

Why is that ?

I thought it was a great cliffhanger and that last shot of Rey and Luke standing across from each other was a brilliant last shot.

They really should have cut to credits soon as he turned around and showed his face. It ended up dragging on too long as they awkwardly stared at each other before she pulled out the lightsaber and held it there with nothing happening.

 

[snaffles]

I'm starting to feel that the movie would have been better off not showing Rey meeting with Luke and leaving it for the sequel entirely.

I kind of thought the same thing, that it would be better to just show Rey and Chewie taking off in the falcon going searching for Luke but not the actual finding him part. But the way it was shot with her having already found Luke makes it easier to skip forward in time at the start of the next film.

 

[bananafactory]

Was it just fate that brought Finn and Rey together or was it the force? The way Finn just seems to be good and how Kylo almost senses him and how he just stumbles upon Rey.. like I know its just a movie and yhey had to meet somehow but I have this feeling that the light side of the force is calling on Finn.

I finished listening to Bobby Roberts' podcast and they touch on it - The Force affects even people who aren't Force sensitive (maybe it's what brought Han back after he leaves near the end of ANH).

Either way, it's definitely Force or destiny or something like that. These two were meant to find each other.

 

[lastplayed]

Is the last planet Luke is hiding on possibly Earth?

No, different galaxy and stuff.

 

[Pandy]

got it

Now THAT would have been a cliff-hanger ending! lol

 

[MMarston]

My guess for the teaser: Kylo Ren is shown with a more stable version of his lightsaber. No helmet is needed anymore. His scarred face is menacing enough.

Rey is shown training with Luke. In order to unleash the force she must dive deep into her past.

Finn and Poe are shown doing some shenanigans to stormtroopers.

A good ending shot would be Finn and Rey facing Kylo again, then 7 figures walk in by his side.

 

[rekameohs]

Is the last planet Luke is hiding on possibly Earth?

Yeah I heard they even filmed it there

 

[Donthizz#]

when Kylo was smashing up his room, those two storm troopers were like...

one of the best scenes in the movie.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

I finished listening to Bobby Roberts' podcast and they touch on it - The Force affects even people who aren't Force sensitive (maybe it's what brought Han back after he leaves near the end of ANH).

Either way, it's definitely Force or destiny or something like that. These two were meant to find each other.

I still have to listen to that podcast. I was saving it for work tomorrow.

 

[Squire]

They apparently do, seeing the massive dropoff in tickets Mockingjay Part II sold in comparison to Part I. Nobody wants to see a movie with no end.

Harry Potter and Twilight called and said you're incorrect!

 

[bananafactory]

I still have to listen to that podcast. I was saving it for work tomorrow.

Really good stuff. I'm sad I just discovered it as he is leaving =(

 

[MMarston]

Harry Potter and Twilight called and said you're incorrect!

From what I've seen, Hunger Games kinda failed to grab the successful things of both those spectrums.

 

[BudokaiMR2]

I think you're missing the main reason why Anakin turned in the first place. He was tormented by not being able to save his mother from dying because he thought he was too weak so when he believed Padme was going to die he saught out any means necessary to save her. He didn't want to betray the Jedi but when Windu tried to kill the one person who he believed could help him save Padme. When he killed Windu I think he believed there was no going back and went along with Palpatine and used the whole "Jedi are evil" thing as some mental gymnastics to justify it all. Then once Padme was dead he just gave up on the world and went full evil. I don't think it's perfect but to some degree it kind of makes sense.

Except at that point he knew that the person who was claiming to have a way to save her had in fact been trying to kill her in the past? Why in the world would he ever believe Palpatine? The only answer is he is a sucker, which doesn't make him a very interesting character!

I can understand his motivations to an extent although they do come from an almost child-like perspective on death which he should have easily outgrown thanks to not being a child and being trained by some of the wisest people in the galaxy.

My problem with the entire thing is the fact that he was actually stupid enough to believe Palpatine. There was absolutely no reason for him to believe anything he said at that point. And if he was just trying to go along with things to justify using Palpatine to save Padme, I don't think he would have gone to the lengths he did such as murdering younglings.

My problem isn't so much with his motivations but just how clumsy the entire thing felt.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Harry Potter and Twilight called and said you're incorrect!

I haven't seen Twilight, but even in Deathly Hallows they tied up the main storyline (finding the Hallows).

 

[Sesuadra]

I'm starting to feel that the movie would have been better off not showing Rey meeting with Luke and leaving it for the sequel entirely.

nah. but that helicopter shot needs to go lol.

My guess for the teaser: Kylo Ren is shown with a more stable version of his lightsaber. No helmet is needed anymore. His scarred face is menacing enough.

Rey is shown training with Luke. In order to unleash the force she must dive deep into her past.

Finn and Poe are shown doing some shenanigans to stormtroopers.

I'm actually expecting Kylo to need a mask now. maybe not a full head cover but more of a mask like Darth Malgus used!

 

[Shuggananas]

My guess for the teaser: Kylo Ren is shown with a more stable version of his lightsaber. No helmet is needed anymore. His scarred face is menacing enough.

Rey is shown training with Luke. In order to unleash the force she must dive deep into her past.

Finn and Poe are shown doing some shenanigans to stormtroopers.

I'm hoping Ren gets a brand new helmet

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Is the last planet Luke is hiding on possibly Earth?

They are in a galaxy far far away.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

The final twist of the trilogy will be that everyone becomes a Jedi. Even Chewbacca. He will get his revenge.

 

[Alex_Mexico]

i also feel this way, but given they marketed the shit out of Hamill while simultaneously hiding him, they were kinda obliged

That is factually incorrect and an outright lie from you.

Other than announcing Hamill had indeed joined the cast of the film could you point me in the direction of any official marketing of the film where they used Luke/Hamill to hype up the film? I'm serious, I'd love to see that because AFAIK he was not once present in any trailer, poster or picture whatsoever.

 

[Shuggananas]

I'm starting to feel that the movie would have been better off not showing Rey meeting with Luke and leaving it for the sequel entirely.

"waaaah we didn't even see luke worst star wars evah"
nah not a good idea breh

 

[darkwing-buck]

I wonder if luke was standing there because he was taking a piss.

 

[KingSnake]

After reading through the the spoiler threads and seeing all the strange questions (I guess people just can't focus on a movie anymore) and "suspending disbelief" thing about a series that has always was pretty wild on the probability of the actions, now I'm certain that Snoke is in fact Jar Jar.

 

[Tookay]

I'm pretty sure that in both the EU and how Lucas envisioned it, the Force is inherently good. So any Sith or other darksiders are causing the Force to lose its balance. There can be a million jedi but as long as they're all light sided it would be in balance.

I personally find that attitude pretty lame. I much prefer the interpretation of there having to be equal amounts light and dark. That's why I enjoy The Old Republic (KOTOR and TOR) eras. Shitloads of Sith and Jedi. Fun times.

You can still have shitloads of Sith, though, under the canon interpretation. It's just that the moral definition of the universe recognizes that as a bad thing.

Which is a good governing concept for any story about good triumphing over evil.

 

[MMarston]

That is factually incorrect and an outright lie from you.

Other than announcing Hamill had indeed joined the cast of the film could you point me in the direction of any official marketing of the film where they used Luke/Hamill to hype up the film? I'm serious, I'd love to see that because AFAIK he was not once present in any trailer, poster or picture whatsoever.

Yeah that was a poor choice of words on my behalf. I was thinking more on press conferences and such

 

[duckroll]

That is factually incorrect and an outright lie from you.

Other than announcing Hamill had indeed joined the cast of the film could you point me in the direction of any official marketing of the film where they used Luke/Hamill to hype up the film? I'm serious, I'd love to see that because AFAIK he was not once present in any trailer, poster or picture whatsoever.

Are you kidding? The first teaser for the movie has Luke's robo arm resting on R2D2, and the entire teaser was narrated by him.

 

[Paganmoon]

Saw it yesterday, was good, need to let it sink in for a bit then watch it again before making a final verdict.
First impressions though, there was so much happening in the first hour, after about an hour 10 minutes, I glanced at my clock, and shit there was still another hour left.
Quite a few telltale Abramhs shots (a few instances of lens flare, lots of shaky cam, favorite actors and so on).

Some fucker spoiled Han for me, so the final scene with him lost all it's suspense, pissed me right off.

Also, got the feeling they were trying to make a Boba Fett with Phasma, she's hardly in the movie at all. Guessing she'll return for the next one, with maybe a larger role?

 

[half a moon]

Are you kidding? The first teaser for the movie has Luke's robo arm resting on R2D2, and the entire teaser was narrated by him.

Word

 

[foxuzamaki]

Was it just fate that brought Finn and Rey together or was it the force? The way Finn just seems to be good and how Kylo almost senses him and how he just stumbles upon Rey.. like I know its just a movie and they had to meet somehow but I have this feeling that the light side of the force is calling on Finn.

oh yeah, thanks for reminding me, ben did sense something from him in fhe beginning, finn def has some type of precense in the force, and it seems to be connected most strongly with the way he thinks and feels

 

[bananafactory]

Saw it yesterday, was good, need to let it sink in for a bit then watch it again before making a final verdict.
First impressions though, there was so much happening in the first hour, after about an hour 10 minutes, I glanced at my clock, and shit there was still another hour left.
Quite a few telltale Abramhs shots (a few instances of lens flare, lots of shaky cam, favorite actors and so on).

Some fucker spoiled Han for me, so the final scene with him lost all it's suspense, pissed me right off.

Also, got the feeling they were trying to make a Boba Fett with Phasma, she's hardly in the movie at all. Guessing she'll return for the next one, with maybe a larger role?

The scene with Han could be seen coming from quite a ways away - I really don't think that's as much of a spoiler as people are making it out to be.

It was spoiled for me as well but since it wasn't ever intended to really be a shock moment, the scene was just as effective even though I knew it would happen before entering the theatre.

 

[duckroll]

Sorry it was the SECOND teaser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngElkyQ6Rhs

Yeah, totally not using Luke/Hamill to hype the film. Nope.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Yeah I hope Finn suddenly being able to think for himself is a big deal later on the story.

 

[liquidtmd]

Now THAT would have been a cliff-hanger ending! lol

GAF and half the internet would still be currently offline if that had been the final shot.

'Messa help you I will. Find your friiiiiend'

The world. It would have burnt down.

 

[Chuckie]

That is factually incorrect and an outright lie from you.

Other than announcing Hamill had indeed joined the cast of the film could you point me in the direction of any official marketing of the film where they used Luke/Hamill to hype up the film? I'm serious, I'd love to see that because AFAIK he was not once present in any trailer, poster or picture whatsoever.

The Force is strong in my family. My father has it. I have it. My sister has it. You have that power, too.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Yeah, outside of some of the acting there I did like the concept in general.

I just think that his actual turn to the Dark side was ill-conceived and there wasn't very much that led up to it.

I would love if they set up Kylo as a more troubled youth from an early age, and have Snoke be a little less on the nose with his plots as Palpatine.

I mean the one thing that convinces him is the fact that Palpatine claims he can save Padme from some vision.
And I guess it doesn't even cross Anakin's mind that he was also the one who tried to assassinate her on multiple occasions? But instead takes him for his word and cuts down one of his masters?

From the way they have already started developing Kylo, I have a feeling his turn will be a lot more convincing. At least I hope so....

Eh Clone Wars kinda fixes it so everything but killing younglings you could kinda understand.

The council members besides Obi-Wan and Yoda are awful.

 

[Alex_Mexico]

Are you kidding? The first teaser for the movie has Luke's robo arm resting on R2D2, and the entire teaser was narrated by him.

It was never clear if that robot hand guy was him (no face) and yes it featured recycled narration from a movie from 32 years ago but you're right. I guess they did use him a little.

But it's a stretch to call that "heavily marketed" regarding them using Luke.

 

[duckroll]

It was never clear if that robot hand guy was him (no face) and yes it featured recycled narration from a movie from 32 years ago but you're right. I guess they did use him a little.

But it's a stretch to call that "heavily marketed" regarding them using Luke.

I don't think it was "heavily marketed" at all, but for the most hardcore fans, there is no question that they put the expectations there. They knew what they were doing.

 

[Chuckie]

It was never clear if that robot hand guy was him (no face) and yes it featured recycled narration from a movie from 32 years ago but you're right. I guess they did use him a little.

But it's a stretch to call that "heavily marketed" regarding them using Luke.

Yeah it was pretty clear it was Luke. I do agree with you that 'heavily' seems a bit too much.

 

[B-B-Bomba!]

How is his hand not on fire?

Midichlorians.

 

[Sesuadra]

can we just take a moment to talk about how awesome lukes new hand looks?


also he is standing in the remains of the first jedi temple. there are stairs going up, you can see walls that have been destroyed over the years...at least that's how I understood the scene.

and damn the hot toys Rey does not have the lightsaber!! >.< and no "ep VII luke" yet :/.

 

[liquidtmd]

It was never clear if that robot hand guy was him (no face) and yes it featured recycled narration from a movie from 32 years ago but you're right. I guess they did use him a little.

But it's a stretch to call that "heavily marketed" regarding them using Luke.

Exactly.

No face shots, a picture of a hand on R2 and recycled / slightly re-recorded dialogue from Jedi in one trailer does not equal "marketed the shit out of".

I thought they played Hamill marketing just right. He's the mcguffin, not a player here.

I don't think it was "heavily marketed" at all, but for the most hardcore fans, there is no question that they put the expectations there. They knew what they were doing.

The hardcore fans put the expectations there mostly themselves. I mean look at the reaction of all the posters they released:

'Whereslukewhereslukewherelukewheresluke' a million goddamn times.

 

[Donthizz#]

I hope Luke takes Rey to a Jedi temple so she can make her own lightsaber like in clone wars/rebels.

 

[Kitschkraft]

Are you sure?

I'd be completely okay with this if they went all-in, with no caveats.

KK seems like she really wanted to break down a barrier of sorts with Rey, so who knows, maybe she'd look at this as another issue worth taking on.

nah. but that helicopter shot needs to go lol.



I'm actually expecting Kylo to need a mask now. maybe not a full head cover but more of a mask like Darth Malgus used!

It might be the simply/predictable thing to do, but I was kinda thinking that he will keep getting fucked up until he truly does become like Vader.

Of course, he'll probably "strike back" in Episode 8, so maybe him getting another beatdown is out of the question until 9.

The more I think about him, the more I like Kylo. Kudos to whoever came up with his design, voice, and of course Driver for the performance. I think it says a lot that people were pretty much able to deduce that Ren was a dweeb from the first moment they saw him. I mean, some of the shit like "I bet he can't even use the force" clearly ended up being false, but, there did seem to be a lot of people questioning just how serious he actually was, based on so little footage.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Kylo looks more like Richard Gere in this than Harrison Ford.

 

[bananafactory]

The moment Rey grabs the lightsaber has got to be in my top 5 Star Wars moments of all time. Maybe top 3.

The buildup combined with the music and the lighting was just....oh my god.