She saw his feelings for Rey and knew he would deliver the lightsaber to her (which he did) which is what she wanted.
I'm curious to she how she came across the lightsaber after it fell into Bespin along with Luke's hand.
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She saw his feelings for Rey and knew he would deliver the lightsaber to her (which he did) which is what she wanted.
I'm curious to she how she came across the lightsaber after it fell into Bespin along with Luke's hand.
Admiral Woofington
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If that's the case then Poe surviving seems a bit too convenient too.
"oh man I jumped at the last second when no one was watching and like found a place to give me a ride and shit yall wouldn't want to know the details boring shit"
Yeah, I mean, I get it's movie timing and framing... but shit just happens so quickly it seems like - it feels improbable that many if any of the First Order guys survived that.
An explicit scene with Kylo Ren been loaded in would've probably have made it a more logical transition.
I was 13, and I understood everything. Never had much issues with the background plot. It doesn't actually deal too much with politics. You just have to know that there's a war between the Republic and the Federation. No big deal.
Croatoan
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POV 1: Finn, Poe, BB-8 and new female (hopefully Twi lek) love triangle interest vs Benicio Del Thrawn and Hux
POV 2: Rey, Chewie, Luke and R2 looking for Jedi Holocrons
POV 3: Kylo, Snoke, Knights of Ren helping Benicio Del Thrawn and searching for Holocron
Leia not in the second movie save for a few lines at the beginning.
DrROBschiz
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ProudCanuck
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I have heard 20 minutes
2 major lines from trailers were cut, the you have the power too and let it in line. Also when Rey is looking up at someone while she is sitting and a bunch of other screens
Omegasquash
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He really is, despite him being a complete shitlord at his core.
Kor of Memory
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I wonder if the whole "first Jedi Temple" stuff will actually lead to Luke finding out that the whole Light/Dark side thing is an load of shit, and that the force should always be fully explored by all its "students" or whatever.
I don't know why, but after watching all 7 movies in the past 2 weeks, I kept getting this feelings that the Dark Side has crazy knowledge, but at a price or mental health. Compared to the Light side.
I kept thinking about the expression "ignorance is bliss." Almost like, the Light side of the force is easier. It's easier to live in ignorance, and only follow the easy parts of the force. It would take a powerful person to learn the dark side of the force, and yet not take on the corruption that could come with it.
Kind of like how they say people of higher intelligence are much more prone to things like depression, anxiety, and suicide.
The Dark Side has always been painted as being so much more than we can imagine.
I just want to see a person who has a constitution powerful enough to tread into dark side territory, but with stand the corruption. I feel like Luke walked this line a lot in RotJ, but I want to see more of it.
I don't know why, but after watching all 7 movies in the past 2 weeks, I kept getting this feelings that the Dark Side has crazy knowledge, but at a price or mental health. Compared to the Light side.
I kept thinking about the expression "ignorance is bliss." Almost like, the Light side of the force is easier. It's easier to live in ignorance, and only follow the easy parts of the force. It would take a powerful person to learn the dark side of the force, and yet not take on the corruption that could come with it.
Kind of like how they say people of higher intelligence are much more prone to things like depression, anxiety, and suicide.
The Dark Side has always been painted as being so much more than we can imagine.
I just want to see a person who has a constitution powerful enough to tread into dark side territory, but with stand the corruption. I feel like Luke walked this line a lot in RotJ, but I want to see more of it.
I was satisfied with the movie but i would totally welcome a director's cut
Anton Sugar
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phazedplasma
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Did we watch the same movie? It was pretty obvious a lot was cut.
Arrowgigantic
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He has to be, what else was going to make a Stormtrooper since birth like him develop a conscience other than the "awakening" putting the whammy on him?
Skellig Gra
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lol, look I'm not an idiot. I know he survived because they want to use him in the rest of the trilogy. I'm just saying its perfectly understandable how someone would be confused how he survived.
So in other words, the story need to bash you over the head with dialogue saying he will survive and then show him getting picked up in order for it be reasonable.
And then we would be here complaining about over the top exposition that insults the audiences intelligence.
Don't know about force sensitive... that stuff seems to be passed along blood lines? But I guess it could make sense - the force is essentially a giant deus ex machina device... so it'd make sense if these force sensitive individuals were brought together through... the force!
What I really want to see is just him wielding a light saber again. You don't need to be force sensitive to be a bad ass light saber fighter, even if it helps.
I feel like there has to be a scene where Rey speaks with Leia that was cut.
Them hugging at the end bugs me since it's the first time we see them together
Hmm...like a third generation from Obi-Wan? So then her parents/grand parents were Force sensitive but never learned it? Obi-Wan got it in? I suppose they could go that route.
dragonyeuw
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Interfectum
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It's a movie. By Snoke saying that line it's basically telling the audience he lives to fight another day.
I think Fin is force sensitive, even if only very little - like Leia. I think Kylo picked up on it when he was walking away from Jakku and sensed Fin's betrayal.
Also he didn't "end up" in sanitation. He obviously had a stint in sanitation while the construction of the Starkiller was fully underway. He can still go on to be top of his field. That happens a lot in the military, and every industry.
Perfect Cha0s
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Yeah, I can understand that people want answers, but it's not really the nature of these movies (nor should it be, IMO) to put everything out there and tie things neatly with a bow by the time the credits roll.
BruceLeeRoy
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You know what was a shocking moment to me.
Blood in Star Wars.
I know there was always the chopping off of arms and what not but seeing what a blaster actually does to someone was pretty crazy. All this time I thought for sure it was just a heavy stun but dudes be getting jacked.
Blood in Star Wars.
I know there was always the chopping off of arms and what not but seeing what a blaster actually does to someone was pretty crazy. All this time I thought for sure it was just a heavy stun but dudes be getting jacked.
Ghost_Messiah
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So now the Star Wars glow has worn off and the hype has died down I'm feeling a little more sober on the movie. Initially I thought it was the best Star Wars movie I'd ever seen because I loved the experience in the theater so much. Super entertaining, enjoyable and overall quite wonderful I thought. However in the cold light of day I'm feeling less enamoured with it. I didn't like the lack of originality and how heavily it borrowed from A New Hope. The movie practically turned in to A New Hope in those last thirty minutes.
Everything from running around the Star Killer/new Death Star to X-wings bolting through half-tunnels to shoot the Star Killer's weak point. It practically became the movie that preceded it. It kind of felt like everything fresh, new and original was concentrated in to the film's first half and by the end the film became a carbon copy of A New Hope. I think the story is going to need to go in to a more original direction to maintain my excitement and interest over episodes 8 and 9. A new story as opposed to a remake of an old one.
It's a fantastic start and beautifully executed but it didn't feel like an original experience as it concluded but rather something I'd seen before.
Everything from running around the Star Killer/new Death Star to X-wings bolting through half-tunnels to shoot the Star Killer's weak point. It practically became the movie that preceded it. It kind of felt like everything fresh, new and original was concentrated in to the film's first half and by the end the film became a carbon copy of A New Hope. I think the story is going to need to go in to a more original direction to maintain my excitement and interest over episodes 8 and 9. A new story as opposed to a remake of an old one.
It's a fantastic start and beautifully executed but it didn't feel like an original experience as it concluded but rather something I'd seen before.
Croatoan
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This was explored by Jacen Solo in the EU and was pretty cool. He became a badass Grey Jedi only to be character assassinated later on and turned into a dumbass sith by a lightwhip using half naked crybaby.
what do you guys think is going happen with Maz in episode 8?
she kind of has had her purpose fulfilled right? get the lightsaber to Rey. Introduce the idea of the force to Finn and Rey.
Do you see her getting her pirate friends to help the resistance in the next one?
Could be cool to see all those aliens come to the rescue in the next film
she kind of has had her purpose fulfilled right? get the lightsaber to Rey. Introduce the idea of the force to Finn and Rey.
Do you see her getting her pirate friends to help the resistance in the next one?
Could be cool to see all those aliens come to the rescue in the next film
Shuggananas
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We're not seeing her again
Omegasquash
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I imagine that the First Order tests for that sort of thing, which would have been easy to do since they took Finn from his family at a very, very young age.
Thanks for having my back
I mean it makes sense that they'd keep him... but so much shit is happening in those moments that... we shouldn't be surprised that not everyone is going to catch every detail!
Well *shifts glasses* technically the first time someone's arm gets cut off ever in Star Wars, there's blood
Totally. Han has been estranged from Leia for who knows exactly how long. He felt like she was the "daughter" he never had. Leia could have kept it a secret and hidden her away on Jakku if they already had plans for Ben to train with Luke. It's definitely possible.
why do you think that?
FlashbladeGAF
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If Rey could get off the planet, then Ren could have to.
It's not like he sat there chilling when she ran off to go back to Fin.
And it's not like there weren't people looking for him either. Unlike Chewie, he had more guys at his disposal.
Kor of Memory
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Skellig Gra
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No, once again, the planet blew up within seconds of the fight ending. If anything it insults my intelligence he survived. A quick shot of him getting picked up would have worked well and there would have been less confusion on peoples part. You don't need any dialogue.
Croatoan
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The guns in TFA looked like they were shooting some kind of plasma vs the OG laser bolts.
I am not sure how someone bleeds from either though (should cauterize).
Snoke is highly force sensitive, like all of these high-tier Jedi. He would clearly know if Kylo had been killed. But he doesn't say "Kylo is dead" he says "Kylo is now ready to finish his training".
The fact that we don't see Kylo make it onto his shuttle and fly away doesn't mean it didn't happen. A film's camera only shows you a subset of the events in the narrative and only captures so many moments in its limited time slot.
Dreams-Visions
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I'm not so sure. She had a story to tell Rey and said she would save it for another time, right? I want her to finish that damn story.
Inferno313
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Every movie has a ton of stuff cut out of it. Even movies that don't really cut any major scene, still shorten their running time a lot when you go from assembly cut to final cut. Even something like a Nolan movie, where he doesn't cut anything from the script, starts out close to 4 hours before they cut it down.
I don't get the vibe at all that we'd ever get a "Director's Cut," Abrams has said numerous times that he was allowed to make the movie he wanted to make, and there haven't really been any major rumblings over significant cuts like what we heard about Age of Ultron.
Sorcerer
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It probably has something to do with Phasma and why Finn is so bitter about her. Something to do with her in his time as a Trooper that we do not see in the movie. Perhaps he was as the top of his class, something jars him out of his loyalty as a trooper, we just don't know what exactly.
The trash compactor line at the end works for Finn as Well as Han.
It can't be seconds. It's seconds in movie time but it obviously isn't really seconds.
Admiral Woofington
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I mean they could theoretically just have wanted a new Han Solo figure of rogue/bad guy with heart of gold who joins the good guys.
But I do hope Finn is force sensitive just to give him a better role than "guy who is funny and works really well as the sidekick for both poe and Rey"
Nah they gotta keep the Skywalker family tree. Kyle is gonna die at the end and then that'd be the end of the Skywalker family. And at the end of the day the movies are about them
thecouncil
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In you want to do that then no one should have escaped, it takes more then a few seconds to break orbit of a planet, so all the X wings and the falcon should have been caught in the explosion of the planet.
Time is almost always never 1:1 in movies to real life
Kor of Memory
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Holy crap, that last sentence there has be scratching my head something fierce.
LookAtMeGo
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That almost looks like the same kind of hat that the person who gets stabbed in Reys vision is wearing
BruceLeeRoy
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Well *shifts glasses* technically the first time someone's arm gets cut off ever in Star Wars, there's blood
Ha yeah I know there was the blood from the severed limbs and whatnot but seeing the red blood from the blaster fire on the storm trooper was crazy.
Yeah. There's no way to tell how much time is skipped between cuts.
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