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[Admiral Woofington]

Why? She already has one.

I mean yeah true, but hopefully she gets to use something like she's more used to making. Luke made his own lightsaber based on the regular blade because I mean come on, it's not like he had more experience with another melee style and it's the standard.

Unless she puts that stuff on her spear that deflects light sabers. Shown in Episode III and VII.

if that shit is so easy to make then cool I guess.

 

[Ishida]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

Because Force.

 

[Armaros]

This is the evidence of her engineering, mechanical, and piloting abilities:

She knows of those 2 space ships, she ran towards one then the other that hasn't flown in years (as they were being shot at), and she is a fan of pilots.

You need more than that to make me believe she's capable of all that. Being a scavenger doesn't make you good at these things. Peppering in a line that says she did maintenance on that piece of garbage for food would have been adequate. People want this movie to be deeper than it really is.

She had a conversation with Han about the modifcations the junkyard owner did to the ship. Its is clear she knows her way around ships.

 

[Toxi]

And how the hell did Poe and Fin escape a Star Destroyer in a Tie Fighter without disabling the Tractor Beam first?

The only time we've ever seen tractor beams used against a fighter was when in Rebels, and in that instance there was a clear vector to target.

Tractor beams likely just aren't very precise.

 

[Perfect Cha0s]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

That's a story for another time.

 

[Jack Scofield]

Wookies would have been even stupider than Ewoks in terms of storyline logic!

#ROTJDefenseForce

Seriously. Why would the Empire build their force field generator on a planet inhabited by a 7-foot-tall, powerful, and sentient race?

 

[Squire]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

It's probably the only legitimate plot hole in the film and it doesn't try to hide it. Maz got it somehow, says it's a story for another time (so a book/comic in 2016, days me.)

it doesn't matter.

That too.

 

[TheOctodad]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

It fell in a different chute, an Ugnaught found it, things happened, Maz got it.

Or something like that.

 

[Brakke]

Maybe? I think a proficient lightspear user could probably beat a lightsaber user simply because a spear allows you to keep your opponent away.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but don't spears always beat swords IRL?

Ask the Red Viper ;_;

The thing is light weapons are different than steel weapons. A sword can't trivially slice the haft of a spear, but a light saber can. And even a broken spear can parry a steel saber, but a broken light spear is effectively tissue paper.

It'd be a weird choice to make a light spear.

 

[Sephzilla]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

>Luke survives a mile long fall in Bespin, is found by someone

Replace Luke's with "Luke's lightsaber"

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

So all the things we literally see her do inside five minutes of meeting her? GEE WHIZ

Everything but the fight sim stuff I'll agree with you.

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

Maz says its a story for another time.
Meaning they didn't want to explain it.

 

[Real Hero]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

be sure to buy the upcoming novel/comicbook/video game to find out!

 

[WadiumArcadium]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

Someone found it.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Saw it. Thought it was decent. I could tell there was a lot more building up to the next films over anything else.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

She had a conversation with Han about the modifcations the junkyard owner did to the ship. I'm s clear she knows her way around ships.

Did she do them? You can tell from a distance if something is being worked on.

 

[Messypandas]

What can you get a wookie for christmas?

 

[Arkos]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

I think it's reasonable to imagine it could have gone out of any one of the many chutes that Luke ended up falling into, where it could have been discovered. It didn't fall at the same time as Luke himself, it has entirely different weight and aerodynamics than Luke, there were bunches of chutes in that shaft, totally believable in my book.

How are you supposed to pronounce "Jakku"? It feels as if it's pronounced different ways by different characters. Is the emphasis on the first or second syllable?

It's pronounced "Not-Tatooine"

 

[Boke1879]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

Maz states "that's a good question for another day" So we'll probably never get the true answer.

But I did read someone that it landed somewhere on the industrial surface of Bespin. So you can assume someone found it and it had just swapped hands.

 

[TheOctodad]

It's probably the only legitimate plot hole in the film and it doesn't try to hide it. Maz got it somehow, says it's a story for another time (so a book/comic in 2016, days me.)



That too.

That's not a plothole then, it's just an undisclosed storyline.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

man fuck ewoks

I'm still salty that they were not wookies

I hope Kylo killed all the Ewoks when he went to retrieve Vador's helmet on Endor.

Making your own lightsaber has in the past at least been implied to be one of the final steps in becoming a fully fledged Jedi.

I think Palpatine might have even had a line in Return of the Jedi about how Luke having made his own lightsaber meant his training was complete. Palpatine really likes the word "complete".

Isn't that old canon? I thought the only reason Luke made one between ESB and ROTJ is because he literally lost his first one on Bespin.

 

[Meowster]

Why? She already has one.

She'll need one eventually, everyone who has owned that lightsaber loses a limb eventually. She'd have been better off snagging Kylo's from him and leaving him with his destiny hehe.

 

[brandonh83]

It's the Force. It's a mystical / midochlorian thing that improves over time with training. Stumbling upon an ability is cliché as hell but it works almost every time.

I'm just saying we've seen Force users just "feel" things through the Force. There's a LOT of instinct to it. I don't have an issue with Rey just knowing she can mind trick. Leia just "knew" Luke was dangling at the bottom of Bespin, or that he wasn't in the second Death Star explosion. As fantasy, these are things I don't question.

 

[Jumeira]

You know what I was thinking? JJ's movie seems to have a strict "no prequel anything" rule to it, which is probably a good thing as a pallet cleanser. But if future movies aren't as strict about that, I'd love to see...

Coruscant. Somebody has to go back there for something, and it's now all grown over with flora and fauna. The senate room, the Jedi council room, Palpatine's office. They all have roofs missing and vines growing everywhere. The old senate room is part caved in with the sun pouring in and all the old seats have animal nests in them.

I know that's kind of an old trope, but it would be a cool scene to see the iconic "all city" planet so subverted that way.

Not sure that's entirely true. There was a reference to clone troopers, ANH only mentioned clone wars. The Republic was featured, while I know this was the case with OT, but it was central to PT. I'd encourage more elements from the PT, such as alien races and some world's (like Naboo, where the Skywalker's have legacy ties) but not too much, just for consistency. I also thought the light saber battles where more like PT, which is good as they were awesome. And Rey carrying Anakins saber (that Obi picked up from defeating Anakin). Possibility of Darth Plagiues.It's subtle but its there.

I loved that blasters were absolutely terrifying, storm troopers where more like clone troopers, precise, organised and lethal. And the best part about the combat was that the sabers where extremely dangerous, they not only had devastating impact, they caused horrific damage. Sabers clashing, sparks and fire being created from the mini explosions. Ren deflecting each blast from Reys gub was so damn cool, but you know he couldn't keep it up.

I'm now looking forward to the making of almost as much as the movie. I want to know every detail and thought gone into creating this film.

 

[Experien]

But living on a junk planet by yourself, scavenging and fixing and flying starships isn't enough to be a good pilot.

Being good enough to be complimented by Han and knowing what's wrong with the Falcon don't count either.

Wait, I wasn't discounting her flying skills nor fixing skills.

 

[LegendofLex]

You need more than that to make me believe she's capable of all that. Being a scavenger doesn't make you good at these things. Peppering in a line that says she did maintenance on that piece of garbage for food would have been adequate. People want this movie to be deeper than it really is.

Shortly after meeting Han, she delivers her negative commentary on modifications they made to the ship (a commentary that is much to Han's approval), then proceeds to hack her way around them (again, much to Han's approval).

As a scavenger, she knows what pieces of ships do what and why since it's her job to identify the pieces that are valuable and test them to see if they still work. On top of that she's clearly pretty confident at her abilities to fly and fight, and can speak astromech droid fluently apparently as well.

What, do we need people to come out and tell us everything about themselves? Are we saying that's good filmmaking now? Part of me wants to say this movie is objectively head-and-shoulders better than any of the previous ones precisely because it rarely feels the need to do this, just to drill into people's heads how their ability to read films is based on their assumption that every film is going to treat the audience like idiots like the older Star Wars films did.

 

[Armaros]

Did she do them? You can tell from a distance if something is being worked on.

...she is the person the fixes the problem of the 'new additions' to the Falcon to get it working on Han's freighter.

She also identifies the problematic part by name. Right before Han was about to say it.

 

[Sephzilla]

Why? She already has one.

She should make a new one just so she doesn't have to used that cursed lightsaber.

Does Luke even have his RoTJ green lightsaber? He tossed it after cutting off Vader's hand. Shouldn't it be floating around the wreckage of Death Star II around Endor?

They could just say Luke got it between scenes

 

[broncobuster]

Does Luke even have his RoTJ green lightsaber? He tossed it after cutting off Vader's hand. Shouldn't it be floating around the wreckage of Death Star II around Endor?

 

[Brakke]

The only time we've ever seen tractor beams used against a fighter was when in Rebels, and in that instance there was a clear vector to target.

Tractor beams likely just aren't very precise.

Plus it's not like they didn't deploy countermeasures. They used turrets and scored a Victory. Not using a tractor beam didn't bother me at all.

 

[Azerare]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

Damn I forgot about that. Now I want them to explain how it wound up with Maz.

 

[Ishida]

I hope Kylo killed all the Ewoks when he went to retrieve Vador's helmet on Endor.

My man.

 

[Future PhaZe]

I'm not entirely against it to be honest. It just seems quite unlikely. If Snoke is Plageuis, I'd have thought they would have kept him a Muun instead of changing him to...whatever Snoke is. I know it's no longer canon but changing his race for seemingly no reason would also be a bit weird. If the hologram is how he actually looks.

There's also the fact JJ said they were considering making Snoke a female at one point. Obviously that might have been before they decided to go the Plageuis route, if they have.

Can't trust anything JJ has said after Khan though--amongst other things he's done in the past to keep things secret.

As well, Plageuis died. That's a fact. The idea is that as a force ghost, he found a way to come back to life somehow, through possession or some other means.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

You know when Rey builds her own lightsaber its going to be staff style.

 

[Perfect Cha0s]

Why? She already has one.

Because I need to see Bastilla Shan's doppleganger on screen, goddamnit

 

[Squire]

Everything but the fight sim stuff I'll agree with you.

Maz says its a story for another time.
Meaning they didn't want to explain it.

So you didn't see her speak to BB-8? She studies droid speak. That's the inference.

Did she not know her way around the Falcon? What nobs to turn, what buttons to press, and what happens when you do? She studies schematics. That's the inference.

I'm not sure what there is you can disagree with. These are scenes in the film.

 

[emb]

Do we know any history of Jakku? Seems implied that some larger battles or wars went down there in the past, with the destroyer and the AT AT just around in the rubble.

Was Jakku even the name of a planet before this movie?

 

[Luigi87]

Maz states "that's a good question for another day" So we'll probably never get the true answer.

But I did read someone that it landed somewhere on the industrial surface of Bespin. So you can assume someone found it and it had just swapped hands.

They'll probably make a comic or a novel explaining it, lol

 

[brandonh83]

You know when Rey builds her own lightsaber its going to be staff style.

I knew Rey was Darth Maul's daughter.

 

[FloatOn]

You know when Rey builds her own lightsaber its going to be staff style.

this is what I'm hoping for

but I really don't want her to go ham like darth maul did. it would be cool to see someone use a lightstaff in a more grounded fashion

 

[Arkos]

There is so much light saber fighting in hallways with no damage to the hallways in the prequels.

 

[Kor of Memory]

So since that was Anakin's/Luke's old Light Saber.

Did anyone notice that in the previews when Finn was holding it? Or were all the trailers shot in a way that you couldn't see the hilt each time?

I ask because I know the shape of the hilts are very specific/iconic to the die hards. I have a cousin that has a few hilts mounted on his wall.

 

[KHarvey16]

This is the evidence of her engineering, mechanical, and piloting abilities:

She knows of those 2 space ships, she ran towards one then the other that hasn't flown in years (as they were being shot at), and she is a fan of pilots.

You need more than that to make me believe she's capable of all that. Being a scavenger doesn't make you good at these things. Peppering in a line that says she did maintenance on that piece of garbage for food would have been adequate. People want this movie to be deeper than it really is.

The evidence is she did those things. She's scavenging around and selling parts. That she can pilot ships is shown to us. That she understands ships and how they work and what the parts do is shown to us. Movies are a visual medium. If you want an audience to know a character can do something, have them do it. This "I need to know exactly how she learned those things!" is weird.

 

[Fury451]

Does it matter?

Kind of. Lazy writing just to establish a 'legacy' connection if there isn't a good reason that makes sense for the saber to be recovered.

I don't get why plot holes are dismissed as "not a big deal". It was a really good movie, but it had quite a few plot contrivances that are worthy of pointing out.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Anyone else hate that Luke is wearing the stupid PT Jedi robes instead of his kickass RotJ outfit?

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

So you didn't see her speak to BB-8? She studies droid speak. That's the inference.

Did she not know her way around the Falcon? What nobs to turn, what buttons to press, and what happens when you do? She studies schematics. That's the inference.

I'm not sure what there is you can disagree with. These are scenes in the film.

?
I'm agreeing with you except for the fight sim stuff. That isn't showed in the film.

 

[KingSnake]

you two are giving wayyyyy too much credit to the audience.

The audience is allowed not understand everything or pay attention to everything. And most of the audience doesn't care why Rey is able to do most of those things in the end, because it is a fantasy movie.

But the smart asses who ask those questions could at very least pay attention when watching the movie and be able to get simple visual cues. Being a smart ass implies the first word too, not just the last.

 

[Arrowgigantic]

Wait, Luke's saber was lost on Bespin... how did it come back for this film?

Well, we never actually see the surface of Bespin. There could be some dude who just hangs out underneath the cloud city and scavenges everything that falls out that hole in the middle. I'm sure there's lots of stuff falling out there all the time.

 

[brandonh83]

Anyone else hate that Luke is wearing the stupid PT Jedi robes instead of his kickass RotJ outfit?

The robes are stupid now?

 

[-griffy-]

Did she do them? You can tell from a distance if something is being worked on.

Does it matter? She clearly knew enough to know what modifications were a mistake, how to repair the ship on the fly, and how to bypass the modifications. Everything in the movie is telling us she knows her shit, but I guess we need some other asshole to step in for a minute and say "Actually, I can confirm Rey is a pilot as I saw her being a pilot one time and doing pilot stuff. You can trust me as I'm a character who has been in the movie for all of 30 seconds. Carry on." *quad jumper explodes*

 

[More_Badass]

Isn't that old canon? I thought the only reason Luke made one between ESB and ROTJ is because he literally lost his first one on Bespin.

Vader implies that constructing a lightsaber is part of a Jedi's skills and training

"I see you have constructed a new light saber. Your skills are complete. Indeed you are powerful as the Emperor has foreseen."