After this stretch of movies the world will be at his feet imo. like you said he can do comedy, drama, hell I wouldn't be shocked if he got some good VO work after this.
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After this stretch of movies the world will be at his feet imo. like you said he can do comedy, drama, hell I wouldn't be shocked if he got some good VO work after this.
WadiumArcadium
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Lawrence Kasdan, one of the writers of the film has explicitly said this won't be the case. I was listening to Empire's podcast today, which he was on for twenty minutes or so and one of the journalists had the same doubts. He said it would be 10 or so years before ANH but wouldn't delve into answering every question or meeting every reference. It's going to be more to do with what Han was actually like back then.
Wait whoa what!? By adapt you mean by comics?
Boyega can do great impressions and I think he has impressive range but I see Daisy Ridley doing great in VO work too. She has a very pleasant natural speaking voice. iirc she's already slated to do VO work in an upcoming animated film.
These two are going to be stars.
Liquidsnake
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I want to marry Daisy. If I was single.
comics, novels, flashbacks on rebels, they said they'll wait for the right format/author/moment for each story though.
Raven117
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The effer shot first...
Yup their stars and good actors. Will be interesting to see where their careers go.
Proof is in the pudding. I remember Spielberg and Lucas saying over and over how Indy4 will be made oldschool pandering to the 80s viewers.
Literally the first thing in frame was a CG animal.
brandonh83
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He'll be younger, it'd work for me with the right casting and script.
WadiumArcadium
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I trust Kasdan. He knows the character and what makes him work.
DiipuSurotu
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Why not? They recast Indiana Jones. River Phoenix was great.
Rogue one definitely seems like the best spin off idea so far. I think the best approach is 'lets make a stars wars spy film' or 'let's make a western' rather than 'let's do origin stories!, again!'
I said exactly that today! Especially after hugging her the first time, it would have made even more sense this time around
PHOENIXZERO
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Well, it can be another job for the guy who played a young Ford in Age of Adaline.
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gutter_trash
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backstories are fine in comics or on the interweebs, but they usually fail as movies
this is my take on backstories , prequels and side spin offs:
Just got back from my 2nd showing because, damn, this is a good movie. Here are some thoughts after seeing it again.
First, the score, or rather key moments. Originally, I wasn't too hyped about the music used in the film. Nothing stood out that I could remember. However, seeing it twice triggered the same emotions in the same spots.
When we first see Rey against the huge Star Destroyer on Jakku because it's Rey's theme playing. Maybe it helped I listened to the track by itself on youtube, but the Celtic/Gaelic tones and sounds really stood out against the Star Wars usual suspects. That feeling of isolation, of smallness, and of a time gone past really hit me.
When Rey runs out into the forest after touching Luke's lightsaber because of how flustered she felt. Strange visions and the scary unknown. The part is played so nice because you get the sense that she's never experienced anything like it before. BB-8 following her was a cute touch.
At the end, when Rey is climbing to meet Luke. I also listened to this track online it felt appropriate for the setting. It has vibes of Empire: jumping head first into the uncertainty.
Basically, all the best parts of the score had to do with Rey (and weren't just reused tracks). Which I think speaks very well about the movie. Their intention is on this character.
Other stuff
- The opening half of this movie is some of the best cinema I've ever witnessed. It's enthralling, drags you into its pace, makes you interested in these characters. The humor is great, the dialogue is snappy, characters (both good and evil) blend so well together you'd think everything was custom fit.
- When Finn is in the gunner cockpit of the Falcon fending off the Tie Fighters, look closely. There are some shot-for-shot similarities to the original A New Hope scenes. Can't be a coincidence. Seriously, I'm sitting here wishing I could do a play-by-play.
- Hux and Ren really are quite a pair. I'm glad they survive till Episode 8. At the start, you think there's going to be a Vader-Admiral vibe to their interactions, but as the movie marches on, Hux gets more and more equal in status while Ren, due to his follies, drops in threat. Which all leads up to Hux's performance on Starkiller, which is so fucking scary that I don't care how blatant it is. Then, at the end, both of them end up failing in their respective roles. Really helps that they both feel so young.
- Cold, icy atmosphere erupting into a collapsing planet burning bright at its center is a nice counterpart to the Red. vs. Blue. saber fight.
- We've got two teams now. Team A) Luke, Rey, R2, and Chewie. And Team B) Finn, Poe, Leia, BB-8, C3PO. Team Force and Team Rebels. I'm sure for the next movie we'll be floating between the two different perspectives ala Empire.
First, the score, or rather key moments. Originally, I wasn't too hyped about the music used in the film. Nothing stood out that I could remember. However, seeing it twice triggered the same emotions in the same spots.
When we first see Rey against the huge Star Destroyer on Jakku because it's Rey's theme playing. Maybe it helped I listened to the track by itself on youtube, but the Celtic/Gaelic tones and sounds really stood out against the Star Wars usual suspects. That feeling of isolation, of smallness, and of a time gone past really hit me.
When Rey runs out into the forest after touching Luke's lightsaber because of how flustered she felt. Strange visions and the scary unknown. The part is played so nice because you get the sense that she's never experienced anything like it before. BB-8 following her was a cute touch.
At the end, when Rey is climbing to meet Luke. I also listened to this track online it felt appropriate for the setting. It has vibes of Empire: jumping head first into the uncertainty.
Basically, all the best parts of the score had to do with Rey (and weren't just reused tracks). Which I think speaks very well about the movie. Their intention is on this character.
Other stuff
- The opening half of this movie is some of the best cinema I've ever witnessed. It's enthralling, drags you into its pace, makes you interested in these characters. The humor is great, the dialogue is snappy, characters (both good and evil) blend so well together you'd think everything was custom fit.
- When Finn is in the gunner cockpit of the Falcon fending off the Tie Fighters, look closely. There are some shot-for-shot similarities to the original A New Hope scenes. Can't be a coincidence. Seriously, I'm sitting here wishing I could do a play-by-play.
- Hux and Ren really are quite a pair. I'm glad they survive till Episode 8. At the start, you think there's going to be a Vader-Admiral vibe to their interactions, but as the movie marches on, Hux gets more and more equal in status while Ren, due to his follies, drops in threat. Which all leads up to Hux's performance on Starkiller, which is so fucking scary that I don't care how blatant it is. Then, at the end, both of them end up failing in their respective roles. Really helps that they both feel so young.
- Cold, icy atmosphere erupting into a collapsing planet burning bright at its center is a nice counterpart to the Red. vs. Blue. saber fight.
- We've got two teams now. Team A) Luke, Rey, R2, and Chewie. And Team B) Finn, Poe, Leia, BB-8, C3PO. Team Force and Team Rebels. I'm sure for the next movie we'll be floating between the two different perspectives ala Empire.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
What if Rey's last name is revealed to be Shan?
I mean think about it.
she had her memory and connection the force blocked
she starts remembering things and the force
she the force awakens in her
just like Revan.
But of course this will literally never happen.
I mean think about it.
she had her memory and connection the force blocked
she starts remembering things and the force
she the force awakens in her
just like Revan.
But of course this will literally never happen.
MisterHero
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Han should've been jungle buddies with Chewie since he was very little
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Boyega has great timing, but I'm coming to love old carrie fisher more and more as she does more interviews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcXJXNSy4fk
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The opposite is true, actually. Nothing is canon and everything can be changed or retconned in the next movie, as has happend in virtualy every Star Wars movie after the first.
Liquidsnake
Banned
If there is a god, Ewan will get to come back and get his own film.
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I'm still sticking to my theory that Felicity Jones plays Rey's mother in Rogue one.
bananafactory
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I'd say the prequels are game for some retcons but Disney seems pretty determined to take better care of the EU this time around. I'd say the Clone Wars/Rebels shows and the books are probably going to hold up
brandonh83
Banned
Things are a bit different now. Back then they were making up the OT as they went along, the new stuff has a story group. The whole point of eradicating the previous EU was to establish a solid canon to move forward on.
There was a theory posted maybe ~100 pages ago that floated the idea of KOTOR being canon. Wasn't too far out there, either.
I think a key is all less admirable parts of his characters actions came from relatable places. It all came from his understandable fear of the New Order and his desire to stay on good terms with Rey. So we never felt like he was being a jerk or a coward because he was being pretty reasonable.
On that note - how great was it that Finn's reveal to Rey about him not being in the Resistance was no big thing? He says it, and Rey shrugs it off and asks him to come with her anyways. I totally thought that reveal was going to drive some bullshit out of character wedge between them. Instead she instantly understood why he did what he did and made it no big deal.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Yeeeeah, that's the part that kind of sucks. Harrison Ford is what made that role. Not sure how they're going to get around that.
WHOA! Can you elaborate? You have my full attention.
False, we have an entire "Story Group" making sure any new material does not contradict the established canon.
For sure. A wedge would've sucked.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I feel like they've been toying with the idea of introducing kotor into the official canon for a very long time.
I mean Kylo Ren's lightsaber is described as an ancient design dating back to the Scourge of Malachor, which could easily be referring to the events at Malachor V which gave us the rise of Darth Revan.
And Revan was ALMOST in the Clone Wars show.
So you know? It might maybe one day be canon.
MisterHero
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They treated this secret as a source of humor. Between him and BB-8, him and Han, it didn't feel like it was going to blow up
BattleMonkey
Member
The new books are pretty mediocre really. Aftermath isn't all that good either but it is part of the new EU that is supposed to give alot of gap filling info for the universe from ROTJ to TFA
I wish I could find it for you, but I think it was something like: The planet Rey goes to at the end of TFA is from KOTOR and Snoke might be Plagieus (so I guess it's a combination of theories) who was taught by Darth Bane, who actually got the Rule of Two from Revan.
Something like that.
WadiumArcadium
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Lost Stars is a young adult novel but it's really great. Lords of the Sith, A New Dawn and Tarkin are good. Aftermath is decent. There's still a few I haven't read.
Most of the new Marvel comics range from good to excellent - Vader, Star Wars, Lando, Kanan, Shattered Empire.
She ain't single either.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I think they explicitly said The Old Republic is not canon.
Eh they may be mediocre but I kinda just want to be up on the lore and backstory really. I'll check it out.
Right. It's just a trope for that kind of thing to create stupid drama among friends I was relieved they didn't go that route here.
Also known as Ministry of Truth, I presume.
demosthenes
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Do we know how long Luke has been missing for, when Ben killed his Jedi class and and how long ago that Rey was dropped off?
friskykillface
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Yeah, that's exactly it. There was also the mitigating factor that Finn didn't hesitate to go back for Rey.
I appreciated that too. I think it was a little odd how Finn was talking about how Rey looked at him like no one else ever had before and it made him feel ashamed of who he was - I don't think that completely earned, it felt a little too much like a melodramatic confession of love from a romcom - but, yeah, I really liked that Rey didn't make a big deal out of it. He lied to her, but she understood why.
PrivateWHudson
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Rey really looks like Keira knightly. Is she a descendant of Anakin banging the decoy?
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