TheOctodad
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And we're done. Why would we read your essay when it's a retread of arguments that he addresses but you refuse to read?
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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And we're done. Why would we read your essay when it's a retread of arguments that he addresses but you refuse to read?
Bobby Roberts
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You're basically advertising right up front why nobody really needs to pay attention to what you're saying.
Which is helpful!
Starsailor
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Now that the movie is out i remember that guy who was dying and wants to see Star Wars 7....
I think he was die peacefully that the Force is still strong =')
I think he was die peacefully that the Force is still strong =')
Wait, what happened to this thread? This is my 1st time in this one so I didn't read what people were saying about it.=O
It's definitely flawed and raised questions but no way this was bad, not even close.
I had to delay it, but yeah I posted my thoughts in the non-spoiler thread.
To be fair, she was locked up from head to toe and he isn't exactly fully grown into his role as of yet. He's still learning.
Kor of Memory
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Finn worked Sanitation at one point. He obviously made his way up the ranks since we see him in an attack squad first thing in the movie.
Phasma stuff had to of been cut. Chick is barely there.
You're undermining how much effort went into that part there.
Someone who have to approach the planet (likely to be picked up by scans) so there was no alarm in the beginning. Han coming out of hyperspace so close to the planet would be seen as a death wish by anyone else.
Then they had to place what seemed to be a very large amount of charges. The charges themselves only opened up the wall of the building. Which then required a very skilled pilot to squeeze into that hole, and blow everything up.
Had Han not been there to pull off the hyperspace jump, or had Poe not been there to fly into the structure, the entire mission would have been a failure.
Edit: Basically, there was like 4 fail-safes that all got bypassed.
Don't worry, it's not like this all the time.
It's like, every 100 pages, the thread has to devolve to criticism and nitpicking for some reason.
Not that they are invalid ones, it's just that they're the same ones we've talked about over and over.
I was thinking about Daniel as the credits began to roll. I hope it was a great for him as it was to my wife and I.
Yup. Would be nice to see insight on this.
I think in episode 8 we'll be getting lots of exposition. It'll have plenty of action but I believe we'll be getting scenes with lots of good back and forth with Rey/Luke and Snoke/Ren.
I also expect the knights to play a bigger role in this movie. Maybe Snoke uses them as assassins/Bounty Hunters to hunt down Luke and Rey.
NYCmetsfan
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Was Finn joking when he said that? He was on the mission to get the map and had been on one before and phasma spoke highly of his training. He said sanitation which is what spys/mobsters/hitmen often call their line of business.
Messypandas
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To be fair, that guard was James Bond.
I mean is better than the prequels
More than disappointed I was like... well there it is, more star wars
I definitely have my second, third and possibly fourth viewings lined up. Gotta go see it with my mom, then I got a friend who has yet to see it, then I'm gonna try to drag my sister, dad and step mom as well. Hell, might see it again with my cousins now that the New York bound one is home for the holidays, even though we've all seen it already!
Haven't really shared my overall thoughts on the film, but I think it's pretty evident from my posts in this thread that I really liked it. It's far from a perfect movie, but it's almost a perfect Star Wars movie. Main negatives for me are the overall kind of messiness of the plot, which is most interested in continually plowing ahead, and the several big conveniences that come about because of that. But the movie is so damn fun and likable and entertaining, Abrams as a filmmaker is so good at keeping things moving and making you kind of not care about that stuff in the moment (almost simultaneously his biggest strength and weakness as a filmmaker, really), and from a base filmmaking perspective it gets so many things right that it mostly overrides the problems I have. It made me smile from start to finish practically. The movie feels earnest in the same way the OT did, compared to the stilted pretension of the prequels. I don't think there's been a movie of this type and feel done as successfully since Star Trek '09.
It's funny that in Empire Magazine's podcast interview with Kasdan, he cites Kurosawa as saying that in stories, heroes change and villains are stuck as they are. Yet, I feel like he and JJ built a villain that will inevitably change and grow with this trilogy. And not into becoming a quasi-good guy like Vader did by the end, but maybe just change and grow into a very different kind of villain than we have seen of him in this first film. I'm very interested to see what Kylo Ren becomes by the end of this epic.
CassidyIzABeast
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Rey levels of powerful posting right here.
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I read up to the part about the black hole character, but that isn't a Mary Sue. I posted what the defined characteristics are that I am referring to.
Look whatever you want t call it, its bad. It's lazy writing and is detrimental to the plot and builds her character at the expense of others.
Starsailor
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kopitarrulez_11
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Try telling that to my 5 friends lol one of them said this was guardians of the galaxy with star was skins lol
Starsailor
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Let see next christmas movies...
2016: Assassin's Creed
2017: Avatar 2
2018: Avatar 3
2019: Avatar 4
So... Star wars 8 and 9 on May?
2016: Assassin's Creed
2017: Avatar 2
2018: Avatar 3
2019: Avatar 4
So... Star wars 8 and 9 on May?
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Any good reads on Rey theories?
Had some serious debates whether she is a Skywalker. I feel like there were so many hints dropping that she is Luke's child.
Had some serious debates whether she is a Skywalker. I feel like there were so many hints dropping that she is Luke's child.
Kor of Memory
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Character is in his 20s. They have 19.9 years of life experience behind them. Being assigned to sanitation at some point in those 19.9 years is totally possible.
I was part of a computer programmer flight in the Air Force. When we had offers to deploy to the middle east, you know what we did? Sanitation. Once a year 3 people in our office were offered to go to the desert and watch trucks suck shit out of porto-johns.
If the Starkiller sucks the energy out of the sun, why would it even need to shoot at any planet in the system? There's no more sun
It's actually absorbing energy from the sun in it's own system, and firing on planets in different systems. I assume the Starkiller's system was binary, otherwise you'd think the sun would have been depleted after the first time it fired.
TheOctodad
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He literally address everything you said. Including why she's a Mary Sue.
hipsterpants
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Shit, well clearly they shouldn't have made that joke (?) about Finn then. You're going to have a lot of people like me who don't read the expanded material assume he was literally a janitor.
And idk, I just find it hard to believe that there can be regular security patrols throughout the base but then the most important locations/people go relatively unguarded. It's a little too convenient.
And idk, I just find it hard to believe that there can be regular security patrols throughout the base but then the most important locations/people go relatively unguarded. It's a little too convenient.
NYCmetsfan
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It seems to go between her being a Leia and Hans other son or Luke's. The end of the movie clearly makes you think she's lukes but the beginning theirs hints of her being a solo
The Elite
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8 and 9 are May.
You can probably add a year to those Avatar sequels (and a bomba to AC). But yes, 8 and 9 in the summer.
If you ignore every single piece of context given in the movie then yes you are correct.
But only people that argue on the internet do that.
Kor of Memory
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I went into the movie blind and I pieced together pretty quick that the sanitation thing was just a point in his career.
Though I have a military background, so this isn't a far fetched scenario.
Well of course it's convenient. It is a movie. The fact that Obi Wan was literally walking slow as hell around the Death Star and no one saw him until Vader did was convenient as well.
brandonh83
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I really can't imagine how bad it's going to be.
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What context would that be
MrPressStart
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Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but I have to say that if you are a Star Wars fan and you don't like this movie .... then I don't think you will ever be satisfied.
Bobby Roberts
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Movie absolutely rules out that she's Han & Leia's, though. That shouldn't even be on the table anymore.
Starsailor
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There is a good theory that Rey = Shmi skywalker and that she will travel through time before Episode 1 at the end of Episode 9
it's been explained multiple times.
That wasn't just one guard. It was James Bond!
I really hope she's related to Kenobi in one way or another. The fact that we hear both Alec Guiness' and Ewan McGregor's voices in her vision is what makes me think there's a chance. I'd be down with her being a Skywalker, but it's definitely what everyone's expecting.
LegendofLex
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Not really.
If she's Han and Leia's kid, then surely Han and Leia know why she was hidden on Jakku, and know not to tell her about her parentage until she's ready.
Starsailor
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Ubisoft is behind the movie and Justin Kurzel is really a good filmmaker... just watch Macbeth it's like AC in Scotland.
hipsterpants
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Also if this movie was true to star wars canon, shouldn't Finn not been able to actually hit anyone at all? He did get stormtrooper training after all lol
MrPressStart
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Obi-Wan made a career out of sneaking around. He did it alteast 2-3 times in the prequels alone.
There isn't any evidence to refute that Obi-Wan was just walking in circles in the Death Star waiting for Vader after he got separated from the group. /s
At the time of the movie, none of that exists.
TheOctodad
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Fixed that.
It's a theory, but it's kind of a joke too...no way most people are being serious.
We discussed a lot of Rey theories yesterday. There way to far back to properly find and link, but some of them include (and yes, also sound wtf)
1.) She is a Skywalker daughter due to her obviously strong Force powers
2.) She is a Kenobi granddaughter due to a remarkable amount of on-screen similarities to the Obi-Wan's appearances in the films.
3.) She's a clone of Shmi Skywalker, who Snoke wants to birth Ani 2.0
4.) She's a 1000 year old girl who was found in the Jedi Temple, or something similar to that degree
5.) She's another creation of the midi-chlorians much like Anakin was
6.) She's actually a sleeper cell Knights of Ren who got the Bourne memory treatment
Have just seen it and wasn't expecting much as soon as I got done reading the yellow writing.
As a stand alone movie it's 'good' but as sequel to return of the Jedi it is completely awful.
For something like an organisation such as the order and knights of wren, to just pop out of no where and also have a super Death Star that nobody knew about it just lol. Is this halo 4 where you're supposed to read up on the lore that's hidden?
I know Disney are there to make bank but is this the best they could come up with to continue the story? I haven't read any of the eu but I'm sure there is a wealth of content they could have used that was better than this.
It makes no sense in the Star Wars universe that the empire would have survived like it has in TFA.
Why are the rebels still called the resistance? They won and a new republic was founded, the emperor and Vader were dead along with most of the empire officers. If this is the route they are going they need to explain those 30 years or whatever it is better.
And Kylo wren come the fuck on, when he takes that mask off he became abit of a joke, voice was cool with it on though. Has skywalker force power and years of training, but manages to get hurt by a tiny storm trooper who has never used a sabre before. Then gets beat by someone who has never used a sabre before to.
Maybe it's me getting older, however when I see nonsensical things in films they don't ruin it for me but makes me hold a low opinion.
Ray was good though
As a stand alone movie it's 'good' but as sequel to return of the Jedi it is completely awful.
For something like an organisation such as the order and knights of wren, to just pop out of no where and also have a super Death Star that nobody knew about it just lol. Is this halo 4 where you're supposed to read up on the lore that's hidden?
I know Disney are there to make bank but is this the best they could come up with to continue the story? I haven't read any of the eu but I'm sure there is a wealth of content they could have used that was better than this.
It makes no sense in the Star Wars universe that the empire would have survived like it has in TFA.
Why are the rebels still called the resistance? They won and a new republic was founded, the emperor and Vader were dead along with most of the empire officers. If this is the route they are going they need to explain those 30 years or whatever it is better.
And Kylo wren come the fuck on, when he takes that mask off he became abit of a joke, voice was cool with it on though. Has skywalker force power and years of training, but manages to get hurt by a tiny storm trooper who has never used a sabre before. Then gets beat by someone who has never used a sabre before to.
Maybe it's me getting older, however when I see nonsensical things in films they don't ruin it for me but makes me hold a low opinion.
Ray was good though
If the Starkiller sucks the energy out of the sun, why would it even need to shoot at any planet in the system? There's no more sun
Well, as the movie shows, it doesn't absorb the sun immediately. There's enough time in between it begins sucking in a star and when it fires off a shot for someone to mount an attack against you.
On the one hand, AC has a lot of great talent going for it.
On the other hand, it's a video game movie.
I'm not especially looking forward to it, but there is hope.
Ignatz Mouse
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