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Awesome Games Done Quick 2016: January 3rd - 10th.
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Deleted member 30609
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Werster was hilarious during some of the Sonic runs, back whenever. Why is he banned?
Ah, damn. That was such a ridiculous Sonic Adventure run. Embarrassing.
Ah, damn. That was such a ridiculous Sonic Adventure run. Embarrassing.
Lots of shady jazz. For example, romscout - the guy who organized these events so well Twitch hired him - was fired. Big drama there.
Then there's the fact PCF takes most of the money and doesn't actually use it for what they speak about, much like Susan G. Komen. It's one of those bloated charities. MSF was a better model, but that was thanks to romscout.
There's a lot that's soured me for these events. People supporting them today are very likely doing it for the wrong reasons.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/1r2f1k/rip_in_peace_werster/cdj10be
As someone who only watches stuff like this occasionally, it's hard to follow the implications of everything in a thread like that.
I have no idea what I'm talking about, it's my first day on the internet, apparently.
Essentially, Games Done Quick isn't a community event. It's an event run by very specific people who have a very specific agenda in mind for what "they" want the event to be, and community members just happened to be required to achieve their goals.
Anyone who doesn't step 100% in line with the "company" policy is out, no matter how much the "community" might want them there.
Anyone who doesn't step 100% in line with the "company" policy is out, no matter how much the "community" might want them there.
Is there any proofs to back that up? Because that's freaking disgusting, if true.
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Deleted member 30609
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Ha, okay, cool.
As cringeworthy as some of the donation readouts are, relegating to a donation ticker would be even more soul crushing.
Like, there would be no personality left to the whole thing.
There's enough GDQ shadyness to warrant another thread to not seriously derail this one.
Here's my thoughts:
Here's my thoughts:
Dry, yet true.
I don't have any proof off the top of my head, but usual threads on /v/ and /srg/ usually bring up how much people get paid for these events. I think Mike Uyama makes a ton of money for this. We're talking being involved in two events is enough for him to live off of as a contractor for such things. I don't know if that was before the creation of Games Done Quick LLC, which I think also pays 7-10 other people.
I usually ignore this jazz, because it is usually a mountain of salt and shade no matter what way one looks at it. This might give more data, but I believe it looks at PCF as a whole, not just for this. It's probably not Susan G. Komen bad, but it seems a bit bloated. But isn't that the case of nearly every American enterprise in 2015?
I think having someone check them for content and passing them through as text on stream, along with verbal readouts of significant donations would be alright.
Something has to be better than the constant back of forth of "streamer is talking" vs. "I need to read donations out"
I have a ton of problems with the way GDQs are currently being run, but stick with actual issues instead of stuff like
Oh come on. It is a six figure amount... Split among almost 20 people. You can have legitimate complaints about that amount, but don't try to spin it into "it's all going to one guy who's not actually doing anything!"
Never said he didn't do nothing. It's just as the head of this, he's been headless for..what is it, a year and a half now?
I'm more bothered by his public vanishing than anything else.
In all honesty though, despite people's gripes with GDQ, is there really any other alternative?
Who has the:
A. Money
and
B. Time
to set up and run an equivalent operation themselves.
I'm still probably going to watch AGDQ, or at least certain individual runs just to see/support that specific runner, but this is sort of a "Well there isn't anything else" situation.
Who has the:
A. Money
and
B. Time
to set up and run an equivalent operation themselves.
I'm still probably going to watch AGDQ, or at least certain individual runs just to see/support that specific runner, but this is sort of a "Well there isn't anything else" situation.
There's ESA, but that's a European speedrun thing, no?
SmackAttack
Member
Can't wait!
I hope the Battleblock Theater run will be as entertaining as the last one.
I hope the Battleblock Theater run will be as entertaining as the last one.
theprodigy
Member
Path of Radiance is a boring speedrun compared to Radiant Dawn though, so much less action and it's not even that much shorter.
it's a shame the NA release of Fates is after this cause they could've done a version bid war
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Deleted member 30609
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It's really hard to follow exactly what these issues are given how decentralised the community seems to an outsider like me. Do you know of anywhere that actually summarises all of this with sources, or is it all spread across forum posts and the like?
(Awesome work with your runs, by the way!)
liliththepale
Banned
This is why I just tune in for the show and don't follow all the behind-the-scenes stuff.
Though I agree with Cyan that they'd be somewhat better off to stick with MSF instead of PCF. Oh well.
Though I agree with Cyan that they'd be somewhat better off to stick with MSF instead of PCF. Oh well.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
So Romscout really was fired? I heard people talking about that, but I wasn't sure if it was a joke or an exaggeration or something like that. Surprising.
Azure Phoenix
Member
ESA or the countless other small charity speedrunning marathons that pop up every few weeks? There is a ridiculous amount of this type of content out there, but for the average viewer AGDQ and SGDQ is all they know/care about due to how prominent it has become. Problem is that it's no longer about the community banding together to do something for a good cause, they're a disposable means to an ends in an event that's clinically planned to maximise exposure and donations.
Adam Prime
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Wowow Prinny can I be the Hero on day 2!!!
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Uhhh Fire Emblem 3DS games would be boring as fuck with black screens of skipping.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
I'm still waiting for that Thracia 776 marathon run personally
MasterHoodie
Member
I have a lot of gripes about the event organizers and their vision of the event, but I really respect their hustle.
I mean hell, the GDQ series started out with a dozen people in someone's living room only a few years ago, right?
I mean hell, the GDQ series started out with a dozen people in someone's living room only a few years ago, right?
Refreshment.01
Member
i' ve been proposing these guys a Wii Punch Out Motion Run.
It would be really entertaining to see these wizards doing a legit run with balance board and Wii Remote/Nunchuk. The other Punch Out runs, while amazing as always, are somewhat burned out by now.
The Mario Maker Race has potential.
It would be really entertaining to see these wizards doing a legit run with balance board and Wii Remote/Nunchuk. The other Punch Out runs, while amazing as always, are somewhat burned out by now.
The Mario Maker Race has potential.
Get Ready! GO!
Diablohead
Member
This is the year where I can already smell the bullshit new business side of GDQ getting in the way, maybe it won't show but who knows.
A lot of stuff changed hands I believe, and certan long time speedrunners who were there from the start are no longer involved.
A lot of stuff changed hands I believe, and certan long time speedrunners who were there from the start are no longer involved.
Velcro Fly
Member
It really isn't all that interesting
And it's definitely the kind of stuff you'd imagine to happen once something goes from a group of friends getting together to do something cool and worthwhile to corporate event that it currently is.
whiterabbit
Member
It's cool that they're doing this so soon after the new year and that it lasts almost a week. I hope to watch some of this. I watched some of SGDQ earlier this year.
But what about those fun times in GAF chat? :C
cloudzack117
Banned
its gonna suck this year. whole lotta mismanagement
liliththepale
Banned
It's gonna be awesome this year. So much more professional and a bevy of great games to boot! I can't wait! ♥
Yeah the picking process is pretty fucking stupid. But whatever. Big Jon is great at the mega man games.
Same. I'll only watch a couple of runs, everything else can fuck off.
Red Arremer
Member
Yeah, ESA is the biggest European speedrunning event, and it also has its own share of issues going on.
That's the problem, too. Doing small scale stuff is easy to set up and generally smooth, since most of the time it's a couple of buddies, but once the event starts growing to a certain size, and more and more people get involved with it in terms of work and money, the more likely it is that there'll be issues between people who are involved, and/or with how things are run.
GDQ is not exempt from this, neither is ESA.
Witwix is big time streamer now, no stopping that train. Also he seems pretty much sick of Boshy. Anyone else running Boshy would have big shoes to fill.
More like organizations are slaves to who foots the bill.
It's just how real world works.