Primethius
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Hard to say, but probably near 1 million at the very least given that this number includes BF sales.
Likely the Battlefront one since it was at the $299 price point for a much longer time frame.
PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users
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Hard to say, but probably near 1 million at the very least given that this number includes BF sales.
Likely the Battlefront one since it was at the $299 price point for a much longer time frame.
Omotesando
Member
In terms of your argument of a hypothetical shorter cycle:
If PS2 is any indication, shorter console cycles mean little to the sole dominating console of its generation. I believe being succesfull will deter Sony from killing off PS4 production and counterbalance a potentially faster arrival of new consoles. PS4 will be the biggest rival of the next leading console(s), in its first years, even if it is PS5.The question is, how long will that last, but I certainly see a preservation of the PS4 life in any case.
The zeitgeist has fallen to the PS4 this Gen pretty much is why, and deservingly so
Omnistalgic
Member
Hmmm, not sure there's really been a lot of that in this thread man, guy in the first page I think was even baiting and ppl were taking him seriously. But yeah, I adore a few Sony studios myself, but I'd rather them delay, and stay quiet and the games come that out and are actually high quality. I have no doubt UC4 is going to be the best Uncharted ever, TLG is going to be a beautiful story, and there's so much more else published by Sony to get excited for. Quality takes time though.
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Member
You start off talking about a lack of intelligent discussion due to salt, then the rest of your rant reads like... another salty rant and doesn't actually bring up anything intelligent to discuss.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
In fairness, most of the PS4's greatness to me is in games that aren't out yet. So yeah, I can see the pessimism. I don't agree with it, but I can see it.
nycgamer4ever
Member
I don't think so. It feels to me like they really want to stick it to the competition this generation. VR, Uncharted 4, Rachet and Clank The Last Guardian, Horizon, exclusive content, marketing deals, and so many of their studios haven't released games this gen yet. Everything is just lining up for Playstation.
The Baron Count
Member
Hmmm, maybe so.
My point is really just that I think being disappointed with the system from a software perspective is a valid opinion. And that Sony have kind of sat back and let the third parties take the wheel.
This is changing this year however. I bought this thing a few months ago specifically BECAUSE of the fact that 2016 looks killer for the PS4. It's just taken so damn long.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
Imagine it when it have games.
I'm dying
Dangoesforth
Member
The Baron Count
Member
No, I explained why I feel the platform is weak for me personally at this moment instead of just saying "it has no games!" which is non-sense.
I don't think the proper response to something like that is to go "lol salt" either though.
Primethius
Banned
That kind of post is "salty" because people who post it can't seem to reconcile their opinions with why the the console is selling extremely well. When you preface said opinion with, "I don't know why it's selling so well", you're pretty much emitting unlimited salt.
Since we discuss about Uncharted bundle, well... in November, USA, PS4 has sold 1,539,000 unit, and 626,000 unit were from Call of Duty and Battlefront bundle (251k BO and 375k SW).
So, another 913,000 unit... let's say that 20-25% of those sales are random bundle, this leave... almost 700-750k for Uncharted bundle.
Only in the US.
Only in November.
I think that, Worldwide, Uncharted Collection should be close to FOUR MILLION SOLD.
So, another 913,000 unit... let's say that 20-25% of those sales are random bundle, this leave... almost 700-750k for Uncharted bundle.
Only in the US.
Only in November.
I think that, Worldwide, Uncharted Collection should be close to FOUR MILLION SOLD.
wapplew
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Snkfanatic
Banned
Imagine it when it have games.
How do people still think this joke is clever?
Mass Effect
Member
So 5.7 million during the holidays this year. That's insane. How much did the PS4 do last holiday? Anyone know?
And to the people wondering why they announced it now on such a strange number, it's because CES (Consumer Electronics Show) started today
Enough with your fanboy nonsense already.
And yes to the people wondering, this guy is being totally serious. He's always doing this crap. Just look at his post history.
Well, in the case of Jumpers, he has no interest in intelligent discussion for reasons mentioned above. As far as your points go, it's not like Sony's developers are sitting around doing nothing. Many of them have been having unforeseen issues that have been causing delays, such as Amy Hennig leaving Naughty Dog, causing them to have to redo much of the story (which means having to redo dialog and motion capturing), or SSM having to can their new IP that Stig was working on.
I really don't know what you want them to do about it. They can either rush the game out, which then people would (rightly) complain about and probably cause sales to suffer, cancel the games, or you can just wait. I really don't see any other alternatives here. And more importantly, we're getting quite a few first party games this year. If those don't interest you, then, well... you bought the wrong console.
And to the people wondering why they announced it now on such a strange number, it's because CES (Consumer Electronics Show) started today
Enough with your fanboy nonsense already.
And yes to the people wondering, this guy is being totally serious. He's always doing this crap. Just look at his post history.
Well, in the case of Jumpers, he has no interest in intelligent discussion for reasons mentioned above. As far as your points go, it's not like Sony's developers are sitting around doing nothing. Many of them have been having unforeseen issues that have been causing delays, such as Amy Hennig leaving Naughty Dog, causing them to have to redo much of the story (which means having to redo dialog and motion capturing), or SSM having to can their new IP that Stig was working on.
I really don't know what you want them to do about it. They can either rush the game out, which then people would (rightly) complain about and probably cause sales to suffer, cancel the games, or you can just wait. I really don't see any other alternatives here. And more importantly, we're getting quite a few first party games this year. If those don't interest you, then, well... you bought the wrong console.
RealityCheque
Banned
Money fight in the Sony boardroom, 10am.
Every, single, day.
Every, single, day.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
They haven't sat back in any way. All of their studio's are making games they can't magically start releasing stuff that isn't ready. What do you want them to do?
I gotta ask, which ones?
Greatness awaits.
Personally can't wait for the flood of Japanese support.
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Perhaps it wasn't, but you know what I mean. You can't complain about a discussion lacking any, well, discussion and proceed . continue adding to the noise
The Baron Count
Member
I get that I guess, but I just don't feel that being dismissive of people is ever a recipe for discussion.
Honestly I have actually looked at these figures before and wondered why it's selling so well myself, but then I take a step back and realize that most people can only afford one system and then it makes sense.
I just instantly tend to throw the third party stuff out of the picture in my head, which isn't exactly logical. But since I have no reason to care about third party stuff on it, it's instinctive for me to do that.
Exactly its not like first partys werent releasing PS3 games late into the gen which aptly explains the delays in PS4 sequels/IPs from those devs. These games arent missing just prescribed to the normal dev time...
ps3ud0 8)
Probably because it's still relevant? We had a thread just last week about Eurogamer were people were still waving the 'no games' flag.
JetBlackPanda
Member
So long N64! Sega Genesis next on the list.
Sidewinder
Member
Probably Uncharted, GT and GoW.
Primethius
Banned
I'm not sure about the exact holiday breakdown but I think we have some rough estimates.
For the entire year, PS4 sold the following:
2014: 14.3m
2015: 17.4m
In 2014, 13.5 million consoles had been sold by September 30. The next update we had was January 4, 2015, which was 18.5 million. So 5 million were sold in 3 months last year as opposed to 5.7 million in 1 month and 1 week this year.
I think people do the whole "salt" thing in response to those who make posts that have no factual basis or are illogical. "No games" is just one of the things that entices such a response.
But to take your initial post head on, you implied that people are buying the consoles more for the hardware, and not for the software. I mean, that's as illogical as it gets. People buy consoles to play games, and we can see that in the software sales figures, which are generally extremely high. I mean, I don't know what other conclusion to draw from your post when you write things like this...
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
He probably has not come to terms that as you get older, the giddiness is not the same. Your expectations are more leveled, and younger nostalgia has weight with it all.
13.5 million was shipped, not sold.
I find it awkward to congratulate big ass corporations that don't give a damn about us but those are some insanely good numbers considering what the media has been saying about console gaming being dead. They are alive than ever! I think PS4 is actually selling at a more faster rate than PS2 on the same period of time isn'it??? Props to Sony.
Holy shit now that you put it that way is indeed absolutely beyond depressing for Nintendo. That lil console has been out for more than 3 years!
Holy shit now that you put it that way is indeed absolutely beyond depressing for Nintendo. That lil console has been out for more than 3 years!
I want games released when they are good and the devs are ready but why haven't the studios released anything?! Whaaaaaa!
Primethius
Banned
;_;
This is not a Sony phenomenon. Microsoft fans did it last gen when 360 is in the lead over PS3, Nintendo fans did it to both of them with Wii sales and DS > PSP sales. And it happens every generation. I don't disagree with the notion that merely calling someone salty kills "actual intelligent discussion" in of itself. But look at the posts that typically make someone say you're salty.
"PS4 has no games, why is it doing well? I don't understand it!" is the average refrain that makes people say someone is salty. In what way did you expect intellectual conversation to arise from that? Those people haven't demonstrated they really want conversation, instead they're just mad something which doesn't have extremely specific and arbitrary categories of games they want is successful. They can't even acknowledge PS4 has more higher rated games, more exclusives and keeps selling tons of software to the very people they're gobsmacked ever wanted it in the first place. These are facts, and ones we can gain separate from our subjective evaluation on the quality of the games.
So intellectually both comments are a deadend. I'd say people should just stop responding to such individuals since they clearly don't want to contribute anyway.
It's not that they've done a pisspoor job of supporting the thing with software. Compare the Sony exclusives from Sony in 2015 and their ratings to the ones for Microsoft in 2015. Very comparable. Bloodborne is one of the highest rated games of the generation, Until Dawn has become a cult hit with very positive reviews, Tearaway is an astonishing game which might as well be a full sequel with all the new content. And I'm just touching the surface of games from Sony.
And much of where the "interpretation" of poor software comes from is that the type of software they've been able to offer this year is not from their biggest franchises, and that much of their biggest games got delayed into 2016. But they still had tons on offer, even from first party.
See, again, what this amounts to is simply you not getting the games you personally wanted, not whether or not Sony actually failed to deliver to its customers great first party titles. They did, and most reviewed well. You just didn't like them.
See you say as much here. For you, "good software" and a "good effort" from Sony = MUST HAVE THEIR BIGGEST FRANCHISES. Nevermind how good Bloodborne or Tearaway or Until Dawn are. They're not their BIGGEST FRANCHISES. Sony acknowledged they didn't have the lineup they wanted due to development delays, but I don't think they should have even said that. Because we need to get away from the idea that only the most AAA of AAA titles amounts to good lineups.
On top of that, the implication from posts like your own is that "development delays" somehow equals Sony not trying hard enough or being lazy. The reality, however, is that they delay games because they are not up to their quality standards, and they take a financial hit for doing so. The opposite of being lazy. It's doing the hard thing for the right reasons.
Where is your evidence they are buying it more for hardware or software? FYI, the data does not support this. The software attach rate is quite good and comparable to XBO.
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Member
The "PS4 haz no gamez" argument has been pretty stupid for awhile now.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
Between the sales thread yesterday and now this I have no clue how you haven't been banned yet.
get2sammyb
Member
It's a valid opinion but I don't think it's one the majority of people share with you. I've been astounded by the sheer variety of PS4 already, and it's only going to get better as this year develops -- something you wilfully acknowledge.
Your point of view is fine, but surely you must appreciate that it's representative of a small minority.
King Gilga
Member
Well it's true? I bought one recently with 3 games and now I have every game I want on the system.
I mean 2016 looks steller but it's pretty lacking right now for reals.
The Baron Count
Member
I didn't mean to imply that they aren't doing anything. Obviously they are working on it, but it really seems like this whole generation caught every developer with their pants down. It just sucks being this far in and still waiting on the things that I care about from them.
Well, I usually eagerly anticipate anything Sony Santa Monica works on and we haven't gotten to see exactly what that is yet, Uncharted obviously, but that's coming soon. And of course Gran Turismo which we are finally starting to see. They are certainly taking care of the one area that I feel they have been weak in so far, it's just taking so long and it's frustrating.
I can see that. I'm tired and always multi tasking. I should have been more concise. You're right.
Bait? Can't tell
I don't understand why I've seen people say Sony can't afford this or that in different gaming threads. I remember in the thread about the GOTY edition of Bloodborne someone said something about Sony including vouchers for the DLC because it costs too much to make the discs. HUH?!
Even if Sony are having financial troubles in some other areas it seems to me like it makes sense to support a system selling as well as the PS4 is.
Even if Sony are having financial troubles in some other areas it seems to me like it makes sense to support a system selling as well as the PS4 is.
Possumowner
Member
If only it had games to play on it /s