As soon as we see the pricepoint we will be wiser.Only question mark left for Ps4 is VR. They are going to have some hits in software this year more than likely. Uc4 Sfv, FF15, and another big Holiday with very strong 3rd party and Indy support. It's just what is VR going to do?
Sony low projected numbers?
Kinect like boost?
Wii like craze?
Complete flop?
I'm gonna assume PS5 is gonna be a clusterfuck a la PS3. Company execs never learn.
SshhhSony loves to toss their numbers out every chance they get. We all get it. They sold a TON of consoles...now how about they fix their network and put out some damn games.
So it's PS4 sales bingo time?
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Oh?Was waiting for this to be posted, think we nearly have a bingo already
Only question mark left for Ps4 is VR. They are going to have some hits in software this year more than likely. Uc4 Sfv, FF15, and another big Holiday with very strong 3rd party and Indy support. It's just what is VR going to do?
Sony low projected numbers?
Kinect like boost?
Wii like craze?
Complete flop?
I hear impressions, and I'm only certain it won't be a complete flop, but dunnon where it will fall with so many question marks. I honestly think the writing is on the wall for X1, they will for the duration of the gen, have weak ROTW sales, timid sales throughout the year and strong holidays in U.S and UK. Nintendo I think will have another successful handheld debut, but VR may be the deciding factor whether Ps4 hits 100+ million or stays in the 70-80 by the time the gen comes to a close
New and improved
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.Another PS3 won't happen again. Ps2 was pretty much based on a monopoly strategy
as you can see above, I'm expecting PS4 to end higher than his projections, but let's not pretend he has no clue, I think that, even if I don't agree with his forecast, there is a theory behind his projections.
For example: PS4 is surely going better than PS3 in the West, but will probably lose 4 millions to PS3 in japan (PS3 ltd is around 11 millions I think, and with the actual sales it will probably be able to reach 6 millions ltd).
We also saw recently that the % of the other Asian markets (where the pS4 is growing compared to the PS3) are still veeeeeeeery lower than Japan)
more importantly, because western markets are way bigger than Japanese one for home consoles, I think that his theory (that could be wrong, of course) is that the main difference between PS3 and PS4 is the trajectory of the sales, and the shortened life cycle. Exaclty because PS4 was better positioned on the market compared to the PS3 (in general terms - price, lineup etc...; in terms of competition - lower costs than the Xone, way better product than the Wii U; and in terms of previous gen offer - PS3 sales were more stagnant than PS2 ones probably because the longer gen that PS360 offered somehow caused a gen fatigue at least for the more enthusiast gamers) we could see a faster penetration but also a shorter "tail", or in other words, a different sinusoid
note, me too I'm expecting higher sales (not around 99/100 millions as he said, but around 115 millions), but I'm open to different opinions, especially if coming from a user that usually sustain his projection with many data analsys.
Off-topic, but I'm playing through Until Dawn for the first time right now and Emily is so hilariously bitchy. I love her.
Agreed. Even my fiance, who is the nicest girl I've ever met, turned to me and said "I don't normally advocate hitting women, but I'll make an exception for Emily".
... And I love her for that so much. She has the best sections of the game too.
Until Dawn definitely made me happy with my PS4 over the holidays.
#teamEmily
I think it's very likely that the PS5 will be an "evolution" of the PS4 instead of starting from scratch like most gens.Hmm, I'm almost certain that Cerny will head up the project again. Most of what PlayStation doing going forward will integrate into PSNow and build a ubiquitous platform for all things PlayStation. The PS3 suffered from high costs and exotic design. The advances in technology and media delivery has made many of Sony's blunders harder to repeat. Couple that with the hopeful continuation of x86 based development, and you have hope for the future.
That certainty of Japan selling less is definitely already being countered by new markets like East Europe, Russia and waht not.
For those who were saying PS4 is lacking games and features, this is partly true. You think with close to 40 million people owning one, there would be a deluge of games. I dunno, I feel the same way. Although 2015 really saw forward momentum. The "lack of games", however has been in the back of my mind. It doesn't help there isn't much though in 2016 I am looking forward too.
As far as OS updates/features, cmon really? Sony released tons of updates but just this last one actually included anything good. Most of the features were ones that should have been available at launch though. My biggest beef: They can't include a better media player? I played an album and I couldn't sort by track. It was all alphabetical.No playlist support? We still can't copy media files to the HD and play them? Lame. "It only does everything": well except support DLNA and play media files well.
It doesn't help there isn't much though in 2016 I am looking forward too.
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"It only does everything": well except support DLNA and play media files well.
I think it's very likely that the PS5 will be an "evolution" of the PS4 instead of starting from scratch like most gens.
Oh youi agree
Now I want to know what they're watching.
You haven't seen it before because it's a week old!This is such a fucking great reaction gif that I'm legit surprised I haven't seen it posted more
For those who were saying PS4 is lacking games and features, this is partly true. You think with close to 40 million people owning one, there would be a deluge of games. I dunno, I feel the same way. Although 2015 really saw forward momentum. The "lack of games", however has been in the back of my mind. It doesn't help there isn't much though in 2016 I am looking forward too.
As far as OS updates/features, cmon really? Sony released tons of updates but just this last one actually included anything good. Most of the features were ones that should have been available at launch though. My biggest beef: They can't include a better media player? I played an album and I couldn't sort by track. It was all alphabetical.No playlist support? We still can't copy media files to the HD and play them? Lame. "It only does everything": well except support DLNA and play media files well.
Oh and PSN broke again.
Full backwards compatibility, party chat between both consoles, and if we're lucky some form of affordable(if not free) upgrade option for crossgren titles.I agree. Likely with complete BC, which makes my digital collection very happy
No you really don't. It's from one of those shitty talent(less) shows. Australia is rife with them at the moment...Now I want to know what they're watching.
This is such a fucking great reaction gif that I'm legit surprised I haven't seen it posted more
Indeed indeed...is Sony at CES this week?As soon as we see the pricepoint we will be wiser.
They have a conference in 9 hours.Indeed indeed...is Sony at CES this week?
Scroll up.Is there a PS4 sales thread bingo?
I think we might have hit it within the first 3 pages.
this one is better
Its cool and all, but i dont understand why its still selling so well.
I mean since its launch, nothing really improved in OS or Services aka PSN. Some of the first Party games for my taste are really uninteresting and really dont provide much if you are multiplayer gamer.
I mean XboxOne IMO does it way better at the moment. Monthly OS Updates, we got a completly redesigned and faster UI, BC and the Games with Gold selection is way better too over the month and with BC even better.
Sure its great that its selling well, but i really cant understand it. Sure the Hardware is better. But cmon nobody can deny that Sony is really lazy so far.
Indeed indeed...is Sony at CES this week?
If we get a $250 slim model in the second half of the year... my god.
note, me too I'm expecting higher sales (not around 99/100 millions as he said, but around 115 millions), but I'm open to different opinions, especially if coming from a user that usually sustain his projection with many data analsys.
PS3 did 14 million in its 7th year, you expect the PS4 (cheaper, more succesfull, dominant console, Sony more willing to lower price etc.) to do only 9 million in its 7th year? Even if PS5 is coming out that year, which is plausible. PS4 is not going to slow that much down, especially at a price range that even poor families can afford.
14,5m in 2018 would mean it is going back to PS3 level sales. in 3 years, not going to happen.
From @ZhugeEX
2013: 4.2m
2014: 14.3m
2015: 17.4m
Console was up almost 20% from YOY
Pretty amazing numbers.
Sshhh
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Its going to be okay my child.
It's pretty true though. This generation of consoles is my least favorite so far.
People like to cling on japan way to much.
In the grand schemes of things, I am sorry japan, but that 4, 5 or 6 million will mean little. We are talking about the highest selling console of its generation. We already got confirmation that PS4 sold 1 million in just 2 years in the Middle East, while PS3 never did above half a million in 10 years. That certainty of Japan selling less is definitely already being countered by new markets like eastern Europe(Polish people play their Witcher 3 on PS4), Russia and waht not. PS4 is more popular then PS2, let alone PS3 in Spain and Italy for example.
this one is better