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[JaggedSac]

Sweet jeebus. Gonna wait a bit.

 

[Alienous]

Is the price of this expected to be low just because it's related to gaming? Think about how insane the $500 price tag of the ipad seemed at the time

I think it has more to do with it being a peripheral. It doesn't come with VR motion controllers. It is one part in a package that requires other parts (like a $1000+ computer), and it costs $600+.

 

[AngerdX]

Yah no thanks, 699 euro definitly puts this in the waiting bin for me, will be intresting to see the other vr headsets pricing.

 

[PdotMichael]

It's material nonpublic information.

Because that affects share prices and even if you were planning to based on success, you wouldn't announce it until they slowed down so you can announce the biggest number possible.

When there are is a publicly traded company involved usually you don't spontaneously release numbers.

Companies releasing pre-order numbers all the time. This is like not even trying.

 

[Psykoboy2]

Not buying one?

I'm not. I was expecting $400 and thought I was prepared for $500, but seeing it at $600, I realized that even at $500, I was probably going to pass on it.

 

[Cth]

I'm not sure where all the doom is coming from in this thread. Company starts selling product for X price, tons of people are buying the product at X price, NeoGAF: "Wow this company is fucking doomed"

To be fair, there's no guarantee that every OR pre-ordered is going to an enthusiast.

Given the hype around VR and announcement of it going on sale, I wouldn't be surprised at how many of the pre-orders are from scalpers.

Presumably they'll find their audience, but it'll be interesting to find out how many are unaware of the additional costs on top of this and if that'll result in some cancellations.

 

[qa_engineer]

Hahaha wow! Oh the schadenfreude. No way in hell this sees mass market adoption with a price that high. You even need to pay out the ass for a computer to run the damn thing on top of this?!?! What the hell were they thinking? Yikes.

Sony is our only hope for bringing VR to the masses. THere was a no doubt that Oculus was going to be expensive.



Don't. Fail. Sony.

 

[nemisis0]

£500 without shipping or tax added on top...ouch.

 

[Algebrah]

You don't need a $1000-1500 computer with specific parts to use an iPad for two fucking games.

I would say it's aimed at people that likely already own a computer capable of running it. Not for people that plan on running it on a Dell Inspiron laptop.

 

[KZObsessed]

$600 is ridiculous. I'll be passing on Morpheus if it's anywhere near that price.

 

[Crzy1]

Not that surprised. Probably going to upgrade my monitor this year, so going to give this a pass at that price. Try to keep my upgrades below $1000 in a year and the monitor I want is probably going to eat up most of that. Needs a killer app for me to take a dive.

 

[U2NUMB]

Lets not base the future of this device on it doing well in the first hour its been up for sale. Naturally they will sell the first wave of this due to the hype and a certain % of people have no problem dropping that money. But no way will this become mainstream at that price and the overall entry point.

Guess I will wait for impressions of the final product..

 

[PanicFreak]

I've see the future and it is.... expensive.

Spoiler

I actually haven't see the future

You want to put a bet on that?

Would stake money on it not costing that much, will launch at a price similar to the PS4.

399.

They already gave that clue, that it would cost around the same as a system.

I'm thinking it will cost exactly what the PS4 costs at the time it launches. If that's 299, then the headset will cost 299. Ditto at 350.

The PS3 has sold more than the Wii.

No

 

[baphomet]

Doesn't matter what they say, PS3 was sold out for a while too but it's no Wii.

[Redacted]

 

[CosmicQueso]

Smartphones can make calls, surf the Internet, use apps without extra hardware. I can't use my Oculus Rift to get an Uber when I'm stumbling drunk out of a bar.

Same thing people said when the iPod was released. "Why do I want a device that only plays music when my palm pilot does that and so much more?"

 

[eso76]

And so it begins.

And so it ends you mean.

 

[Sky Chief]

I nailed it in the price prediction thread yesterday

My other predictions were PSVR $399 and Vive $799

 

[shira]

I just don't get why the reaction is this huge. It may be more expensive than you thought but there has been almost no news stating anything other than VR is going to cost you a lot. I can only imagine the reaction if people weren't out there saying how VR was going to be expensive.

The price is fine, the international exchange rate is pretty bonkers though especially when people will inevitably be paying 1.5-1.7x the base $599 USD.

 

[wachie]

$120 - Shipping

That seems reasonable

lol, what are they shipping you? A rock?

 

[Jolkien]

Yeah. I think the PS3 was $650 before tax at the time? Maybe $699?

I bought my PS3 for 650$

 

[ISee]

741€ with shipping here in Germany...

 

[Shuggananas]

Sony is our only hope for bringing VR to the masses. THere was a no doubt that Oculus was going to be expensive.



Don't. Fail. Sony.

Psvr isn't for pc, so lol to that

 

[tuxfool]

1) Sony have experience in manufacturing and general supply chain management, vs likely very limited experience between oculus and Facebook.

2) cheaper to have a single panel vs two on the OR.

3) entry level PSVR could be headset only which saves money on the camera and controller (could be $100 saving right there)

I could see PSVR being $399 headset-only, but it might not be easy for them to go much cheaper, assuming OR is selling at or near cost.

Vive conversely :
1) two tracking lighthouses vs one webcam
2) two motion controllers vs one non-motion controller in OR
3) HTC aren't in this as a charity and have no platform to push unlike Oculus/Facebook or Sony.

I could see Vive being $1-200 more than OR

I should point out that the lighthouse basestations should be much more cheap to manufacture than the OR based on their internals.

One should also consider that the OR includes a XB1 controller which is then wasted if one wants to use Oculus touch (which may or may not require a second camera).

 

[Backlogger]

A couple months ago, Apple released another IPad for $600+ and everyone rushed to the Apple Store.

Apples to Oranges

 

[Pathfinder]

Unfortunately, that's about $200 more than I was willing to spend on the device. I'll wait around for the used market.

 

[kamakazi5]

Companies releasing pre-order numbers all the time. This is like not even trying.

Do they usually release them an hour after pre-orders open(no snark, I just wouldn't think that would be a normal thing)?

 

[TheFrza]

Right? $600 for a new hot tech item isn't really high at all.

600 by itself, but add on a recommended 970 and the price just went up substantially

 

[Bookoo]

Why? Because Oculus said that it will cost around the same as DK2. And because the differences between DK2 and CV1 are pretty small. Basically just better screen and some design differences.

They said that a long time ago I think even before they shipped DK2 which was in July 2014

Based on all the interviews and talks I have seen CV1 is miles ahead of DK2. CV1 and Cresent bay prototype were closer in specs...not sure how much of that remained true.

 

[NeOak]

The PS3 has sold more than the Wii.

What are you smoking?

 

[qa_engineer]

I nailed it in the price prediction thread yesterday

My other predictions were PSVR $399 and Vive $799

If Sony can eek out a $299 PSVR then I will be pleasantly surprised.

 

[MikeE21286]

$600 was way more than I expected. Can't justify it

 

[baphomet]

lol, what are they shipping you? A rock?

A 10ish pound box by express mail.

 

[KatamariOnTheRocks]

I'm in for $629.00 USD shipped

So psyched to finally jump into VR and at exactly the price I expected the first generation to cost.

I'll also still be buying a Vive and PSVR day 1 as I've had years of putting money on the side for VR, basically since I heard about the Rift Kickstarter

 

[exmachina64]

Smartphones can make calls, surf the Internet, use apps without extra hardware. I can't use my Oculus Rift to get an Uber when I'm stumbling drunk out of a bar.

You'll typically spend $600-800 for a new phone, over $100 per month on a plan from a U.S. carrier and get spotty service when you feel like it's most necessary.

If Apple made a vr solution I'd pay $600

I know this is tongue in cheek, but I'd like to add that if Apple decided to start working on consumer VR today, it'd take at least several years to get to release -- similar to their car efforts. By that point, they're competing with Rift CV 3 or 4.

 

[SmartBase]

Price isn't bad at all though it'd probably be marginally lower if it didn't have that superfluous controller bundled with it. Now we just need Vive pricing.

 

[Jisgsaw]

 

[CosmicQueso]

600 by itself, but add on a recommended 970 and the price just went up substantially

Sure. But for the early adopter niche? This isn't that bad. This isn't meant to be mass market out the gate.

 

[Zepp Twofist]

Hmmm. I struggled a lot with getting my card through, and now my order history doesn't list a price and I didn't get a confirmation email. Still says I ordered it though. If they fuck me over I'll use the money to hire an assassin instead.

 

[blackdevil]

We don't even know what PSVR will cost. Don't even mention the PS4 on top.

well it will be less than a $600 Rift + $1000 PC that`s for sure.

 

[Militant17]

But VR seems to still be in a nebulous place. No uniform control mechanism. Things like eye-tracking coming into the picture recently.

If I bought a BluRay player as they came out it pretty much does what a BluRay player will do down the line, just clunkier. With VR I get the impression that an Oculus Rift CV2 will have a killer new feature than invalidates the last, more like an iPhone than a BluRay player.

Well it is a new and evolving technology. Just like most electronics they start off rudimentary and evolve as the technology allows it. Usually both getting better and cheaper, look at mobile phones for a recent example. When first introduced they were expensive and impractical and only used in a niche market. Now not so much.

This shouldn't be that difficult to see and I think most people spouting this nonsense are just being ignorant.

 

[Randy]

Do we know the final specs of the device? (Resolution, FoV,...?)

 

[Keric]

Damn, I got stuck in a meeting. Just pre-ordered.

May for me :/

Oh well. It gives me more time to build a new PC. Maybe Pascal will be out by then?

 

[gundamkyoukai]

You only build a product around licensing fees if you think the market is large enough that the number of games sold and their respective licensing fees make up for the difference.

This isn't a console model. The market is way too small. Don't even try and argue that there is a massive market here. Kinect sold ~25M at it was at a much lower price point than this. I don't see anyone expecting VR to sell 25M on the PS4.

I think if they sell 1-2M of them, they will be absolutely ecstatic.

Sony sells PSVR people buy software for it , they make money off the software .
It's the same model they use for everything from PS1 to VITA .
How it sell going to play a part yes but it's the same model and no one know how big the VR market is right now.
Also they want to make it mass market it's in there interest for that to happen .

 

[imBask]

Sure. But for the early adopter niche? This isn't that bad. This isn't meant to be mass market out the gate.

but cosmicfriend, quality games and movies won't get made if they can't sell any because the audience is too niche

 

[Leonsito]

Seeing all the Sony fanboys celebrating I thought I stepped in a dimension where Oculus works on PS4 and the PSVR on computers...

 

[baphomet]

What are you smoking?

My apologies. That was software sales.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

The sarcasm makes him sound super mad at the backlash

I think you're projecting, I don't see the sarcasm. They expected the backlash, this isn't Palmer's first tour of the Internet.

 

[Neander]

Fuck it, I just preordered. It's not like they take you're money right away so I still have time to think it over. Now I have to build or buy a decent PC to do this thing justice. Goddam.

 

[Samus4145]

If Sony can eek out a $299 PSVR then I will be pleasantly surprised.

I think they will, cause look at what is included with the Rift. So much extra stuff. Sony needs to sell just the PSVR, so the price can look attractive.

 

[Algebrah]

Apples to Oranges

A new piece of technology costing $600+ out the gate. I am wishing this didn't cost as much as the next person and am going to wait to see the Vive but I don't find this pricing at all surprising.