blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
No trade in deal for my Dk2? 
Oculus Rift available for preorder for $599.99, shipping in March
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He said affordable around $350 before, to target mainstream by getting a product out to many many people. A fancy case, headset, Mic, controller, and remote with a $600 price tag raises many suspicions. I almost ordered it as hyped as I am for VR as its the next level of immersion I've been waiting for for decades. But even I won't with unproven hardware and support packed in with suspect items.
Will wait for Sony now, I'll get my Pascal card, then see how rift is doing in a few months.
That AMA tonight is going to be glorious.
Exactly, that's waaaaay to much for me, and many out there.
Nickdogmoneycash
Member
Cut the price in half and I still wouldn't think it would be worth it.
Mihos
Gold Member
Man, this is almost word for word the same post as posts about CDs, DVDs, HDTV, etc when first announced. (except my examples where actually much more expensive at launch)
Memorabilia
Member
I mis-typed "smart phone" when I meant to say "cell phone", which I definitely think drives home the point: Portable cell phones had a universal and obvious appeal right away that overcame exhorbitant price for the most part, even with crazy bag-phone and brick phone form-factors. I still remember my pops carrying one of those things around for work. EVERYONE wanted one. Companies snapped em up by the millions for their work forces to increase productivity and keep people connected. This happened way before "smart phones". Smart phones were merely the latest iteration that expanded the application of a device with already existing demand that was off the charts. Basically, cell phone adoption was rapid because allowing people to talk while on the move... whether for business, pleasure, or emergency...is a "universal" application. Not so with VR.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Earlier plagiarize said seeing something about them being included in the earliest shipments. Hopeful that's true.
When VCR's launched, everyone with a TV wanted the ability to record things and view movies at home. It was just cost prohibitive to do so. The PC thing... well that goes back to a completely different era so it's difficult to even envision the thought process. I'd like to think that people could see a lot of potential use for a PC as that evolved, but a VR headset? There are countless people that would never even consider putting something like that on their heads. People demonstrated an aversion to wearing simple 3D glasses.
I'm prepared to eat my words in 5 years, but I think the potential market for a VR headset is much, much smaller than the potential for an HDTV or CD/DVD player or VCR. You're comparing things that mom and pop can enjoy, and that have no social boundaries with a piece of tech that is going to go on a single individual's head and wall off social interaction.
Ricky Ricardo
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I can listen Kaz's laughing so hard. And I live in Spain.
Yeah, PSVR will be $399.
What a win.
LEL
Inferno313
Banned
ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE DOLLARS! (*)
(*) the new five hundred and ninty nine dollars!
Depending on what components are in the PC that's not a bad deal probably. I spent about $1200 on building my own PC and it lines up to the suggested Oculus Specs.
ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE DOLLARS! (*)
(*) the new five hundred and ninty nine dollars!
"A good option for normal people". Normal people aren't going to spend $1400 for VR.
That monitor won't be considered ancient tech within a year or two.
He's channeling his best pal, Adam Orth.US price seemed high enough, EU price is laughable. Wow.
Normal people? Im sure "most people" would be a better fit there.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
And I'm simply stating that even if the cost is small, but the increase in sales is nonexistent, they won't bother. Movie studios don't add post production 3D to films just to appease a small niche of 3D enthusiasts, they know they can increase their first week revenue by upwards of 25%.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Given the reaction now, can you imagine what it will be like if PSVR ends up in the $450 or higher range?
Zepp Twofist
Member
They usually handle all that through their shipping company. When I order stuff with included tax from Amazon, everything is taken care of by the shipping company and it's completely transparent to me. No extra fees beyond what I paid at checkout. This will most certainly be the same deal.
Shadowhaxor
Member
I don't know about the rest of you, but I really expected them to eat more of a loss to get more units into more consumers. At $600 with nothing to show for, no "killer app", as much as I want to get my hands on one I can't justify this.
Not yet......
And still, the first wave sold out that quick.
Not yet......
And still, the first wave sold out that quick.
kungfuian
Member
This is clearly a SOFT LAUNCH to measure market demand mixed with the typical early adopter price mark up.
A large part of the $599 cost is likely due to low production numbers along with the fact they know they can sell maybe a few million to the enthusiast crowd. This also allows them to put it on the market sooner than later to start re-couping expenses.
The biggest problem with all of this is software support. For the install base to be large enough to support software sales the price will have to come down pretty quickly. I can also imagine the low install base of the individual VR players will lead to cross platform software development between all the VR players (makes sense).
I'm sure the platform holders are aware of this and much more, and hopefully we'll see significant price reductions within the first year or two, along with some quality PORN, to help VR penetrate the market, to get it on more peoples faces if you will, lol.
A large part of the $599 cost is likely due to low production numbers along with the fact they know they can sell maybe a few million to the enthusiast crowd. This also allows them to put it on the market sooner than later to start re-couping expenses.
The biggest problem with all of this is software support. For the install base to be large enough to support software sales the price will have to come down pretty quickly. I can also imagine the low install base of the individual VR players will lead to cross platform software development between all the VR players (makes sense).
I'm sure the platform holders are aware of this and much more, and hopefully we'll see significant price reductions within the first year or two, along with some quality PORN, to help VR penetrate the market, to get it on more peoples faces if you will, lol.
ChaoticBlue
Member
most of GAF buys overpriced graphics cards and gaming PCs and that's expensive?
smh.
smh.
ISee
Member
EVE is very impressive and already included.
I also tested a fly to the moon demo on the DK2 and it was pretty amazing.
Newtype-001
Member
^ Kuro-Law - you probably want to quote that image, it's massive.
I don't think there's a way to provide this kind of data in a meaningful way.
I don't think there's a way to provide this kind of data in a meaningful way.
Well yeah, I mean all retailers are required to charge VAT by law. They can't get around it. The only thing they can do is just make the base price cheaper in Europe so the price is more affordable to normal people. After all affordable is relative depending on the country.
Though it's worth noting since all of them are much larger companies, the costs of logistics will be much cheaper too. In the oculus's case they're charging 50 euros for shipping because they just don't have the infrastructure to make exporting cheaper.
TheVampire
Banned
Its like $850 Australian!
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
Not necessarily the killer app for VR per se, but Minecraft VR should be launching around the time these get sent out. I think that'll do well for them...
Kadayi
Banned
The first part was enough to put me off. I never got as far as looking at shipping on top.
Nearly $1,000 CAD with the inclusion of taxes and shipping. If you're unlucky and get hit with custom fees, yikes! Not to mention the $500+ I'd need to invest in a new graphics card.
Noping the fuck outta here. Ah well, probably for the best. I shouldn't be making such large, risky purchases with my measly discretionary income.
Looking forward to seeing how the VR technology and market evolves over the course of 2016. Maybe Vive, SonyVR, or even Gear VR will be more viable.
Noping the fuck outta here. Ah well, probably for the best. I shouldn't be making such large, risky purchases with my measly discretionary income.
Looking forward to seeing how the VR technology and market evolves over the course of 2016. Maybe Vive, SonyVR, or even Gear VR will be more viable.
Shadowhaxor
Member
Negative sir. While there's a lot of us that do, that's no where the majority, especially if you read up on the PC-GAF threads. Most normal users got R9 380's-390's / GTX 970's, as an example. Under $400.
This is $600...... no way.
Teletraan1
Banned
I 100% agree with that weak value add they are trying with all the mics and controllers that people might not need in a fancy box. If you are trying to get this thing into as many homes as possible you strip all that out and ship in a cardboard box for $50 less at least.
Sleeping Lesson
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Delt31
Member
wow - that's a huge savings now. damn......
I agree with this.
Exactly this, with the caveat that they could still be taking a significant loss and this is the lowest they could go.
Still, with the backing of Facebook's coffers, I'd have taken the loss on the hardware and done everything I could to get it down to $299-$399, and bank on making up for it on peripherals and software.
$600 screams to me either:
1. This thing is way too expensive to produce to make a mass market friendly price; or
2. They don't trust the long term adoption rate and are not confident in their ability to monetize peripherals and software; or
3. They just got impatient, and wanted to produce something that is immediately profitable.
I really wish I'd backed the DK1. I almost did. Ahh well.
I don't get why people are so shocked at the price. The way I see it, that's about the price I'd pay for a new TV. And this is essentially a new form of TV. I can't afford it yet but I can't be mad at the cost if its as good as we hope.
I don't get why people are so shocked at the price. The way I see it, that's about the price I'd pay for a new TV. And this is essentially a new form of TV. I can't afford it yet but I can't be mad at the cost if its as good as we hope.
CDs, DVDs and HD TVs were all iterations on something the general public already knew and understood. While they were expensive, people knew what they were getting and they were safe buys. CDs were the next step from tapes, DVDs were the next step from video tapes, and HD TV was the next step from SD TV. People had gone through these upgrades before.
VR is an unproven accessory that has no proof of the potential to succeed.
Hale-XF11
Member
I wish I could remember where I read a short time ago that someone from Oculus (I think it was someone from Oculus) who said they only expected to sell somewhere under 100,000 units the first year and to them, that would be considered a success. It would really add some perspective to this thread. I don't think even Oculus expects mass adoption for another 2-3 years.
Fair point.
