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[Mahonay]

Well this means at bare minimum there are 18 million xbox ones sold. Still better than WiiU

What a huge accomplishment

The XB1 numbers are fine from where they found themselves at the beginning of all this. It's just not competing with the PS4. No need to drag in poor Nintendo.

 

[Lupercal]

If I remember correctly, all X1's still need to connect to the internet on start up, correct? If not, then 18 million is the bare minimum amount of consoles sold, since that amount would be composed of only people who decided to take their machine online.

Dat spin, all those Xbone owners without internet not getting counted.

 

[Disaster Nebraska]

The gap isn't going to shrink unless it starts selling at an even pace. And that just isn't gonna happen anywhere outside the US or UK.

Well it's not happening in those places, either.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

Damn, still at 2:1. There's nothing they can do to shrink that gap now if not even Halo had a notable affect.

Shrink the gap lol? They should be worried the gap won't be 3:1 by the end of the gen. Sony has yet to release GT, Uncharted or God of War. MS has already released a mainline Halo and 3 Forza games. If Soony isn't hit by the power of delays this year, they have a good chance of hitting 20m in 2016 if they drop the price by 50$ come November. I have to say I'm surprised it's sold 18m. I thought it would be around 16-16.5m range.

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Previous.

Over 20 million is highly unlikely.

 

[ElNino]

I have an Xbox One with five controllers and over a dozen games, with the Win 10 update, but haven't turned it on in the past 28 days because I've been replaying Uncharted collection and grinding N++ on ps4. So I wouldn't even be counted.

That depends on whether you have background updates turned on, and whether that triggers a console being "active". It suspect it would as it would be a unique console (with W10) connecting to their server to to check for updates.

Assuming this is accurate, it would be a low end estimate for sold through systems WW. I have no idea how many people would have inactive, or not updated consoles, but it would stand reason that they would exist. I know some of my son's friends Xbox One's are not connected online... for some reason.

 

[spatenfloot]

Dat spin, all those Xbone owners without internet not getting counted.

Why would anyone live in places without internet?

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

Well this means at bare minimum there are 18 million xbox ones sold. Still better than WiiU

well when you set the bar that low then yeah, it's also better than the dreamcast and the atari jaguar

I'm hoping that they're happy with these figures. 18 million in 2 years isn't anything to feel disappointed about given the PR nightmare they had before launch and them shaking off the kinect before it sank them in too deep. It's a solid number and hopefully they keep it up given that as of now it's the console im getting the most use out of

 

[serversurfer]

I just listened, and she said her unconfirmed source told her "around 18 million XBox Ones." (emphasis hers)

That'd align nicely with the "17.5M, give or take," that we guesstimated ourselves, actually.

 

[Theorry]

Over 20 million is highly unlikely.

Could be. But still 20 mill is still quite good if you look where they started.

 

[nib95]

We will have an updated LTD in the US next thursday. Current number as of November 2015 is ~9760k.

Then no way I can see it being 18+ million. Say they add a generous estimate of 1.5 million in Dec NPD, making for a total of 11,260,000. I can't see it selling roughly 7 million elsewhere in the world. The US is by far the Xbox One's biggest market, and the UK and Brazil alone aren't going to carry it elsewhere. But you never know.

 

[spatenfloot]

Could be. But still 20 mill is still quite good if you look where they started.

There is no evidence that the number is anywhere near 20 million.

 

[Theorry]

Edit.

 

[Mendax]

Could be. But still 20 mill is still quite good if you look where they started.

yes if they were actually at or close to that, but nothing indicates that does it...?

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Could be. But still 20 mill is still quite good if you look where they started.

I meant I doubt it is even at 20 million. 18 million was like the upper limit of estimation until this info which is highly questionable.

 

[Get_craycray]

Makes me remember this tweet from Zhuge that kind of corroborates the 18 million numbers.

Xbox One is tracking ahead of Xbox 360 when you align launches according to Microsoft. This should mean that XB1 sell in >17.7m as of 2015.

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/684061416236675076

 

[modalife]

Then no way I can see it being 18 million. Say they add a generous estimate of 1.5 million in Dec NPD, making for a total of 11,260,000. There's no way it sold roughly 7 million elsewhere in the world. The US is by far the Xbox One's biggest market, and the UK and Brazil alone aren't going to carry it elsewhere.

It's a rumor, right? No reason or way to confirm/refute since it's not officially coming from MS. Based on that logic alone, it could be any number I've seen posted on PS4 and XBO sales thread. So, again, a useless piece of rumor.

 

[Theorry]

yes if they were actually at or close to that, but nothing indicates that does it...?

Well like someone said. It counts consoles who were connected in the last 28 days?
Wich are 18 mill. But i guess some are probably not used for a while etc?

 

[Mendax]

Well like someone said. It counts consoles who were connected in the last 28 days?
Wich are 18 mill. But i guess some are probably not used for a while etc?

Noo that's someones misinterpretation. OP was about activated which is just connected to the internet for the first time; rather than active which is being used in the past days. But there is only a total number and the 18m is an estimation which is probably not the reality

 

[Welfare]

Then no way I can see it being 18 million. Say they add a generous estimate of 1.5 million in Dec NPD, making for a total of 11,260,000. There's no way it sold roughly 7 million elsewhere in the world. The US is by far the Xbox One's biggest market, and the UK and Brazil alone aren't going to carry it elsewhere.

Good thing the Xbox One is not sold in just 3 countries.

In the UK, the Xbox One should comfortably be over 2 million, but let's just go with 2 million. US+UK would be ~13.3m then.

It is really that hard to believe that the Xbox One has sold >4.7m units in the other 40+ countries they are sold in combined?

 

[Bgamer90]

Then no way I can see it being 18 million. Say they add a generous estimate of 1.5 million in Dec NPD, making for a total of 11,260,000. There's no way it sold roughly 7 million elsewhere in the world. The US is by far the Xbox One's biggest market, and the UK and Brazil alone aren't going to carry it elsewhere.

If U.S. sales make up 60-65% of overall Xbox One sales then it would fit. Do you think the percentage is higher?

The Xbox One is doing pretty bad outside of America and the U.K. but it's not like it isn't selling at all (i.e.: territories outside of those two having absolutely no Xbox One sales). There are many territories still adding up to the Xbox One's overall worldwide sales. Not by much but they still play a role.

 

[nib95]

Makes me remember this tweet from Zhuge that kind of corroborates the 18 million numbers.

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/684061416236675076

Sell in is shipped, for which 18 million would be conservative if anything. Sold through, not so much.

 

[gamechanger87]

Well like someone said. It counts consoles who were connected in the last 28 days?
Wich are 18 mill. But i guess some are probably not used for a while etc?

Noo that's someones misinterpretation. OP was about activated which is just connected to the internet for the first time; rather than active which is being used in the past days. But there is only a total number and the 18m is an estimation which is probably not the reality

Sell in is shipped, for which 18 million would be conservative if anything. Sold through, not so much.

The definition from Mary Jo Foley is that 18 million Xbox One units have been active in the last 28 days.

This is not the number of Xbox Ones sold, this is the number of Xbox One that have been used in the past 28 days. These consoles are now W10 units and are thus counted in MS' W10 200 million active units. Not activations, but active which has a specific definition.

Watch the below video starting at 6:05. Her comments on the definition is at 7:50

https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly/episodes/447?autostart=false

 

[OverHeat]

Thats what happen when you put a crappy GPU in your console MS....

 

[D4Danger]

Thats what happen when you put a crappy GPU in your console MS....

in fairness both the consoles are kinda shit. Xbox more so.

I hope next time they really go for it now that they know people aren't going to do all their gaming on iphones.

 

[Raist]

Good thing the Xbox One is not sold in just 3 countries.

In the UK, the Xbox One should comfortably be over 2 million, but let's just go with 2 million. US+UK would be ~13.3m then.

It is really that hard to believe that the Xbox One has sold >4.7m units in the other 40+ countries they are sold in combined?

yesitiscrazyaliendude.gif

 

[OverHeat]

in fairness both the consoles are kinda shit. Xbox more so.

I have both but for the first time since the first Xbox 99.9% of the multiplatform release I get them on PS4

 

[rokkerkory]

in fairness both the consoles are kinda shit. Xbox more so.

I hope next time they really go for it now that they know people aren't going to do all their gaming on iphones.

yeah both consoles are just so meh in specs, already way behind pc counterparts

 

[Bgamer90]

Thats what happen when you put a crappy GPU in your console MS....

We would probably see similar results if the Xbox One was more powerful than the PS4. PlayStation brand is simply more popular worldwide -- hence why all previous PlayStation consoles were still very relevant even though they didn't have the best visuals for multiplats during their respective gens.

 

[joecanada]

Not sure how this is pathetic. Raw sales numbers would be higher than 18 million. That is 18 million pretty active users.

I have an Xbox One with five controllers and over a dozen games, with the Win 10 update, but haven't turned it on in the past 28 days because I've been replaying Uncharted collection and grinding N++ on ps4. So I wouldn't even be counted.

not exactly a glowing endorsement ;p

"xbox has gamez but no one is playing them" (the opposite of ps4 bingo lol)

 

[xxracerxx]

MS is doing well, no matter what some detractors say.

 

[diffusionx]

The definition from Mary Jo Foley is that 18 million Xbox One units have been active in the last 28 days.

This is not the number of Xbox Ones sold, this is the number of Xbox One that have been used in the past 28 days. These consoles are now W10 units and are thus counted in MS' W10 200 million active units. Not activations, but active which has a specific definition.

Watch the below video starting at 6:05. Her comments on the definition is at 7:50

https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly/episodes/447?autostart=false

You should just go, no need for facts and information here

 

[nib95]

If U.S. sales make up 60-65% of overall Xbox One sales then it would fit. Do you think the percentage is higher?

The Xbox One is doing pretty bad outside of America and the U.K. but it's not like it isn't selling at all (i.e.: territories outside of those two having absolutely no Xbox One sales). There are many territories still adding up to the Xbox One's overall worldwide sales. Not by much but they still play a role.

I assume so yes. Eg around 70%, but that's only focusing in on Europe as a barometer, where many countries the Xbox One is trailing by 6-1 or more. It's possible Latin America is making up for more lost ground than given credit for, but honestly there's simply not enough data for us to know for sure.

 

[Welfare]

not exactly a glowing endorsement ;p

"xbox has gamez but no one is playing them" (the opposite of ps4 bingo lol)

Xbox has soooo many games that no one can play any of them!

The fiscal quarter results will be something to look out for for those

Spoiler

MAU

updates.

 

[icespide]

Thats what happen when you put a crappy GPU in your console MS....

I think launching at $100 more than the PS4 hurt it more than its perceived weakness

 

[jaypah]

We would probably see similar results of the Xbox One was more powerful than the PS4. PlayStation brand is simply more popular worldwide -- hence why all previous PlayStation consoles were still very relevant even though they didn't have the best visuals for multiplats during their respective gens.

Yeah PlayStation is a world brand. Not many ways for MS to counter that. Sure, treating other countries better would certainly have helped but Sony is kind of in a class by itself.

 

[SolidAwesome]

18 millions seems about right.
Phill did say that the ps4 has a big lead. so yea

 

[OverHeat]

I think launching at $100 more than the PS4 hurt it more than its perceived weakness

The GPU and price, are direct cause of that POS Kinect

 

[gamechanger87]

You should just go, no need for facts and information here

Don't worry. I'm expecting few responses to my post.

 

[Stanng243]

The definition from Mary Jo Foley is that around 18 million Xbox One units have been active in the last 28 days.

This is not the number of Xbox Ones sold, this is the number of Xbox One that have been used in the past 28 days. These consoles are now W10 units and are thus counted in MS' W10 200 million active units. Not activations, but active which has a specific definition.

Watch the below video starting at 6:05. Her comments on the definition is at 7:50

https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly/episodes/447?autostart=false

That one word you left out makes a big difference.

 

[joecanada]

The definition from Mary Jo Foley is that 18 million Xbox One units have been active in the last 28 days.

This is not the number of Xbox Ones sold, this is the number of Xbox One that have been used in the past 28 days. These consoles are now W10 units and are thus counted in MS' W10 200 million active units. Not activations, but active which has a specific definition.

Watch the below video starting at 6:05. Her comments on the definition is at 7:50

https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly/episodes/447?autostart=false

does this mean the number could be 20 mil or even more? I mean could 5-10% of consoles not be online in the last month? and what about consoles that say people bought but don't play, broken, don't connect etc? 10 percent could be reasonable..... ?

 

[SolidAwesome]

I think launching at $100 more than the PS4 hurt it more than its perceived weakness

add the fact that multiples are worse on the xbox one, as well.

 

[bombshell]

Makes me remember this tweet from Zhuge that kind of corroborates the 18 million numbers.



https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/684061416236675076

That's for shipped consoles, "sell in". Sold through will be a fair bit under the shipped number, because we know MS have overshipped quite heavily this holiday like they always do.

 

[Lemondish]

Don't read too much into these numbers. 9 out of 10 of my friends use unactivated Xboxes.

 

[Acquiescence]

That's a respectable amount. It's good for the overall console market that both the PS4 and Xbox One are faring as well as they are.

 

[icespide]

add the fact that multiples are worse on the xbox one, as well.

I don't think most people care about that honestly

 

[NastyBook]

Hehe

Yeah, reading that post from a snark standpoint has me rolling in the barbershop.

 

[gamechanger87]

That one word you left out makes a big difference.

No it doesn't. Do you think they are going to give her an exact number? This isn't like they are rounding up 15M to 18M. You say around or approximately when you aren't given an exact number. She was told "around" 18M active XBO units.

You are just trying to be cute to fit your own narrative. I'm just laying out exactly what was said.

I'm expecting that aggregate XBO sales are around 20M.

 

[Bits N Pieces]

If the numbers are accurate then I'm sure MS will be pretty content with 18 million.

Before the generation actually started and they were looking at pre orders, they must have thought they would be lucky to get to 20 million over it's lifetime.

Just keep releasing good games, support the console with cool and innovative updates and they'll probably have won back the goodwill of the majority of gamers for the start of the next next gen.

Just don't fuck it up as badly as you started this one.

 

[impact]

Well this means at bare minimum there are 18 million xbox ones sold. Still better than WiiU

This is like bragging about beating a blind guy in a game of darts